US Politics April 2019 Thread: 'I find that pretty hard to believe'

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Take it to the politics thread.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:03 (five years ago) link

Just saw that Trump's sister resigned as a judge to avoid facing consequences for her family tax tomfoolery.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:04 (five years ago) link

there are no Trump judges (now)

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:06 (five years ago) link

right, it's not that people on the left should just always be slash-and-burn with the way they talk and stop giving a fuck about how their words are received, but they should absolutely not give a fuck when the pushback is coming almost exclusively from people who are so clearly giving them a bad-faith reading.

I think the first part is now correct. The left should always be slash and burn with the way they talk and stop giving a fuck how their words are received. Why not?

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:07 (five years ago) link

Some people did something = May 2019 thread title candidate.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

I yearn for the days when nobody did anything.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

So I wrote a thing

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:13 (five years ago) link

The New York Times reports:

President Trump’s top aides considered an idea to pressure immigration agencies to release apprehended migrants into so-called sanctuary cities represented by Democratic lawmakers, according to several people familiar with the proposal.

The idea was floated in an email by a top White House policy adviser in November, when Mr. Trump was furiously condemning migrant caravans from Central America headed toward the southwestern border, the people, including two government officials, said.

In the email dated Nov. 16, with the subject line “Sanctuary City Proposal,” May Davis, the deputy White House policy coordinator, raised the idea with officials from the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 11:28 (five years ago) link

It's almost as if it was never even a little bit about securing the border. WEIRD!

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 April 2019 12:38 (five years ago) link

ABC News reports:

Herman Cain is expected to withdraw his name from consideration for the Federal Reserve’s Board of Governors, amid growing pressure from Republican senators on the White House to remove him from consideration, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 13:46 (five years ago) link

weird to find myself faintly nostalgic for the days when herman cain was a presidential hopeful but here we are i guess

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 April 2019 13:49 (five years ago) link

A fourth Republican Senator says no on Herman Cain. Now we know the GOP does have its limits: don’t fuck too much with the Federal Reserve. One clown, Stephen Moore, seems to be enough.

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) April 11, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link

good news, I'll take it

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 12 April 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link

Good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 April 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link

or.... is it?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 12 April 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link

Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 12, 2019

....The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy – so this should make them very happy!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 12, 2019

bring it on bitch

frogbs, Friday, 12 April 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link

No one has trolled this hard since the Democrats made all the drugs free in Drug-Free Zones

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 12 April 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

given that the White House is operating off the principle that all illegal immigrants are murderers, how else are we supposed to take this but Trump trying to create a body count in states that are disloyal to him

frogbs, Friday, 12 April 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

"you asked for it dems! we're gonna bring in illegal immigrants and give them homes, and jobs, and an eventual path to citizenship."

to halve and half not (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

that'll teach em

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link

i don't understand how the Fake News got this one right

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

if they were clever i would expect this as a front for the actual operation, which would be to dump immigrants in sanctuary cities and then withhold emergency funding requests on state or federal levels so that there are, naturally, frictions from accommodating people suddenly in numbers, so that local discontent is stirred up and there are nice optics for the media

j., Friday, 12 April 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link

.@RepKatiePorter challenged big bank CEO Jamie Dimon to pay his workers a living wage by literally showing him the math pic.twitter.com/Sr7S8Agv5c

— NowThis (@nowthisnews) April 11, 2019

previously known for this:

The top official responsible for educating and protecting consumers should be able to define an APR correctly. Spoiler alert: @CFPBDirector can’t. My offer to send her a textbook I wrote on this still stands, if she wants to learn on the job. pic.twitter.com/ybWl6BD8ur

— Rep. Katie Porter (@RepKatiePorter) March 10, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 April 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

she is the best

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 12 April 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link

NBC News reports:

A man riding a scooter set his jacket on fire in front of the White House Friday afternoon, sources said. The U.S. Secret Service and D.C. Fire and EMS went to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW just after 2:45 p.m.

The Secret Service put the fire out and provided aid to the man. A suspicious package was found near the man. D.C. Fire medics were treating the man, who is in Secret Service custody. His condition was not immediately known.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link

what's the condition of the jacket?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:21 (five years ago) link

that information is for members only

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Friday, 12 April 2019 23:09 (five years ago) link

President Trump last week privately urged Kevin McAleenan, the border enforcement official he was about to name as acting secretary of homeland security, to close the southwestern border to migrants despite having just said publicly that he was delaying a decision on the step for a year, according to three people briefed about the conversation.
It was not clear what Mr. Trump meant by his request or his additional comment to Mr. McAleenan that he would pardon him if he encountered any legal problems as a result of taking the action.


Ugh, get this fucker out of office, make it stop

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 April 2019 23:39 (five years ago) link

So basically he must have urged Nielsen to do it, fired her, then immediately urged her replacement to do it.

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 April 2019 23:41 (five years ago) link

This presidency is the world's longest 'Pull My Finger' joke...

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 12 April 2019 23:44 (five years ago) link

Just out: The USA has the absolute legal right to have apprehended illegal immigrants transferred to Sanctuary Cities. We hereby demand that they be taken care of at the highest level, especially by the State of California, which is well known or its poor management & high taxes!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 14, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 April 2019 12:24 (five years ago) link

I heard it pointed out that Sanctuary cities had become Sanctuary Cities largely because they were the main destinations that people tended to aim for once they had managed to get into the US. So tactic seems to be a bit pointless in making sure taht was where they were sent.
Also that migrants had the freedom of movement once they had arrived in the US so they weren't forced to stay where they were put.

Stevolende, Sunday, 14 April 2019 13:10 (five years ago) link

we hereby demand

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 14 April 2019 13:24 (five years ago) link

From the generally power-worshipping Axios:

President Trump is embracing increasingly extreme immigration ideas, in part because he is furious at his inability to get instant border results through executive fiat, top officials tell Axios.

Why it matters: Trump is drawn to maximalist, click-your-fingers ideas that can be legally dubious or outright illegal.

What's happening: After reporters uncovered a heated internal administration debate, Trump tweeted: "Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities." "Sanctuary cities" shield migrants, limiting cooperation with deportation.

Be smart: This is not a plan. It's a Trump desire — and wishing it to happen won’t make it so.

Between the lines:

Reflecting Trump's behind-the-scenes rage, a senior White House official said: "This was one of the more unsurprising tweets ever."

The senior White House official acknowledged: "It's not going to happen because ICE [U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement] can't do it. They don't have the cash and they can't ask for federal funds to do that."

...

The bottom line: Immigration lawyers tell Axios that in addition to there not being funds for this, there would be huge liabilities if anyone got hurt while being transferred.

Also, Trump would be essentially giving immigrants a free ride to places many of them would prefer to be anyway.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 14 April 2019 13:34 (five years ago) link

l'etat c'est moron

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 April 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link

Is all of this real? I just woke up.

wtf

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Sunday, 14 April 2019 13:48 (five years ago) link

Think about when you were six and got mad at your folks and threatened to run away, and remember how six-year-old you eventually grasped some nascent conception of the potential consequences of following through on your threat and begrudgingly remained with the family who refused to let you stay up past your bedtime. Our president lacks that capacity, and he's mad at his folks all the goddamn time.

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Sunday, 14 April 2019 14:09 (five years ago) link

it's weird how often he slips into cosplay

this time he's cosplaying a tv legal guru (tv - "just in: ", legal guru - "absolute legal right, "hereby")

basically he misses Jeanine Pirro

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Sunday, 14 April 2019 14:14 (five years ago) link

I don't even know where he is on the lawful/neutral/chaotic - good/neutral/evil scale anymore :(

StanM, Sunday, 14 April 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link

he is chaotic evil, and he was born that way

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Sunday, 14 April 2019 14:16 (five years ago) link

otm

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Sunday, 14 April 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link

.@presssec Sarah Sanders tells Fox News’ Chris Wallace “frankly, Chris, I don’t think Congress — particularly not this group of congressmen and women — are smart enough to look through the thousands of pages that I would assume that President Trump’s taxes will be.”

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) April 14, 2019

Sarah Huckabee: BA in Comms/PoliSci from Ouachita Baptist University, currently ranked #171 in National Liberal Arts Colleges by U.S. News & World Report.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 14 April 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link

I don't know about 'born' but, like his own children, he was incubated in such a stew of chaotic evil that the deck was stacked against his turning out any other way.

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Sunday, 14 April 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link

everyone in the white house is 5 years old

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Sunday, 14 April 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link

xp as high as #171?

suzy, Sunday, 14 April 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link

tbf, she didn't say she would be either.

nickn, Sunday, 14 April 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link

we’re all born chaotic evil.

beard papa, Monday, 15 April 2019 04:01 (five years ago) link

What's going on with Rosenstein. is he simply a turncoat or has he been operating from unexpected motivation from the start.

Stevolende, Monday, 15 April 2019 11:25 (five years ago) link


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