US Politics April 2019 Thread: 'I find that pretty hard to believe'

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If Barr is back to exploring the 9dea of spying on the 2016 Trump campaign is he far from launching a further investigation into Hilary Clinton.
& that after like half the trump cabinet has been outed conducting official business on private communication devices.

Stevolende, Thursday, 11 April 2019 08:54 (five years ago) link

Trump knows what's in the Mueller report. His sudden push to control the IRS and investigate the FBI may be his way of helping Barr justify the censorship of the report that the attorney general is going to let the senate judiciary committee see. Another normal day.

skronktopia (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 11 April 2019 10:17 (five years ago) link

Would it be empowering for Trump/counterintuitive for the dems to begin a discussion of what to do in the even of Trump losing in 2020 but refusing to relinquish the WH?

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Thursday, 11 April 2019 10:59 (five years ago) link

I’m aghast that the NY Post would use this photo — the moment of death of hundreds of my fellow NYers — to score a cheap political point.

This is beyond grotesque. It’s shameful. pic.twitter.com/dxrIEWC62B

— Dan Lavoie (@djlavoie) April 11, 2019

so these motherfuckers are just trying to get this woman killed ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:17 (five years ago) link

Ugh.

NYPost, I don't expect them to be careful with anything, the fuckers. But I do wish she was a little more careful with her words, given that she's a right-wing target now and this seems to happen ... monthly? Bi-weekly?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link

ho-lee shiit

frogbs, Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:37 (five years ago) link

Some People Did Something and We Tortured Some Folks--pretty much sums it all up

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:39 (five years ago) link

I'm sorry Josh but that's a bullshit take. her comments were grossly taken out of context.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:42 (five years ago) link

yeah this is the Homer Simpson "sweet sweet can" thing in real life

frogbs, Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:45 (five years ago) link

I read her original comments and get and agree with what she was saying. I just meant, literally, she should be more careful, because often it's not what she is saying but how she says it that gets her in hot water. Take AOC (who is not a fair comparison, but still). The stuff she says is generally at worst mildly provocative, which is why the right has to twist her words to make her look bad. Omar, though, seemingly lacks her savvy, which is why her stuff is so easily cherry picked to seem more inflammatory or controversial than it may actually be. imo.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:10 (five years ago) link

so their strategy is working , just get her to shut the fuck up and know her place

I say fuck that shit , they are going to do this no matter what

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:13 (five years ago) link

yeah, I don't even think the uproar is about the point she was making, but rather the kind of distanced, bloodlessness of that phrase. It's not like the context really changes that.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link

xp yes double down on everything, there's nothing to lose imo

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link

xpost I don't think she should shut up at all! She can say the same stuff, with the same righteous anger, just choose her words more carefully. Or maybe it doesn't matter anymore, so she can say whatever, however she wants. She does say "raise hell, make people uncomfortable." I just don't want her to get hurt.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link

in the very least she should continue to be herself i don't want her second guessing what she says based on making these racists uncomfortable with a muslim american woman speaking on her perspective regarding these issues. I want to hear her voice whether i decide to agree with here or not. xp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link

right, it's not that people on the left should just always be slash-and-burn with the way they talk and stop giving a fuck about how their words are received, but they should absolutely not give a fuck when the pushback is coming almost exclusively from people who are so clearly giving them a bad-faith reading.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:48 (five years ago) link

I see what you're saying but lets face it, this is the first Muslim Congresswoman, they'd treat her this way even if she was mute

frogbs, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:57 (five years ago) link

xpost Which AOC is a master of responding to, and Omar ... not yet.

I don't know, I hate Trump, he enrages me, and rare is the day I don't wish he would just shut up. He def. doesn't give a fuck about critics, but I wish he did.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link

I honestly think the only way out of this is gonna be government intervention, force Spotify/Apple Music/whatever to share more of their revenue and issue grants the way Canada (??) does

probably not gonna happen though I guess if you get Kid Rock and the Nuge behind it it'll have a shot

frogbs, Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:03 (five years ago) link

Take it to the politics thread.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:03 (five years ago) link

Just saw that Trump's sister resigned as a judge to avoid facing consequences for her family tax tomfoolery.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:04 (five years ago) link

there are no Trump judges (now)

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:06 (five years ago) link

right, it's not that people on the left should just always be slash-and-burn with the way they talk and stop giving a fuck about how their words are received, but they should absolutely not give a fuck when the pushback is coming almost exclusively from people who are so clearly giving them a bad-faith reading.

I think the first part is now correct. The left should always be slash and burn with the way they talk and stop giving a fuck how their words are received. Why not?

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:07 (five years ago) link

Some people did something = May 2019 thread title candidate.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

I yearn for the days when nobody did anything.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

So I wrote a thing

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:13 (five years ago) link

The New York Times reports:

President Trump’s top aides considered an idea to pressure immigration agencies to release apprehended migrants into so-called sanctuary cities represented by Democratic lawmakers, according to several people familiar with the proposal.

The idea was floated in an email by a top White House policy adviser in November, when Mr. Trump was furiously condemning migrant caravans from Central America headed toward the southwestern border, the people, including two government officials, said.

In the email dated Nov. 16, with the subject line “Sanctuary City Proposal,” May Davis, the deputy White House policy coordinator, raised the idea with officials from the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 11:28 (five years ago) link

It's almost as if it was never even a little bit about securing the border. WEIRD!

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 April 2019 12:38 (five years ago) link

ABC News reports:

Herman Cain is expected to withdraw his name from consideration for the Federal Reserve’s Board of Governors, amid growing pressure from Republican senators on the White House to remove him from consideration, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 13:46 (five years ago) link

weird to find myself faintly nostalgic for the days when herman cain was a presidential hopeful but here we are i guess

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 April 2019 13:49 (five years ago) link

A fourth Republican Senator says no on Herman Cain. Now we know the GOP does have its limits: don’t fuck too much with the Federal Reserve. One clown, Stephen Moore, seems to be enough.

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) April 11, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link

good news, I'll take it

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 12 April 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link

Good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 April 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link

or.... is it?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 12 April 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link

Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 12, 2019

....The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy – so this should make them very happy!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 12, 2019

bring it on bitch

frogbs, Friday, 12 April 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link

No one has trolled this hard since the Democrats made all the drugs free in Drug-Free Zones

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 12 April 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

given that the White House is operating off the principle that all illegal immigrants are murderers, how else are we supposed to take this but Trump trying to create a body count in states that are disloyal to him

frogbs, Friday, 12 April 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

"you asked for it dems! we're gonna bring in illegal immigrants and give them homes, and jobs, and an eventual path to citizenship."

to halve and half not (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

that'll teach em

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link

i don't understand how the Fake News got this one right

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

if they were clever i would expect this as a front for the actual operation, which would be to dump immigrants in sanctuary cities and then withhold emergency funding requests on state or federal levels so that there are, naturally, frictions from accommodating people suddenly in numbers, so that local discontent is stirred up and there are nice optics for the media

j., Friday, 12 April 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link

.@RepKatiePorter challenged big bank CEO Jamie Dimon to pay his workers a living wage by literally showing him the math pic.twitter.com/Sr7S8Agv5c

— NowThis (@nowthisnews) April 11, 2019

previously known for this:

The top official responsible for educating and protecting consumers should be able to define an APR correctly. Spoiler alert: @CFPBDirector can’t. My offer to send her a textbook I wrote on this still stands, if she wants to learn on the job. pic.twitter.com/ybWl6BD8ur

— Rep. Katie Porter (@RepKatiePorter) March 10, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 April 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

she is the best

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 12 April 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link

NBC News reports:

A man riding a scooter set his jacket on fire in front of the White House Friday afternoon, sources said. The U.S. Secret Service and D.C. Fire and EMS went to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW just after 2:45 p.m.

The Secret Service put the fire out and provided aid to the man. A suspicious package was found near the man. D.C. Fire medics were treating the man, who is in Secret Service custody. His condition was not immediately known.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link

what's the condition of the jacket?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:21 (five years ago) link

that information is for members only

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Friday, 12 April 2019 23:09 (five years ago) link

President Trump last week privately urged Kevin McAleenan, the border enforcement official he was about to name as acting secretary of homeland security, to close the southwestern border to migrants despite having just said publicly that he was delaying a decision on the step for a year, according to three people briefed about the conversation.
It was not clear what Mr. Trump meant by his request or his additional comment to Mr. McAleenan that he would pardon him if he encountered any legal problems as a result of taking the action.


Ugh, get this fucker out of office, make it stop

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 April 2019 23:39 (five years ago) link


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