sometimes a player is just that much better though regardless of skillset or else the best nba player would be like otto porter or something
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link
jeff green is the MVO (most valuable in the offs)
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link
george over jokic for MVP is so cringey
― k3vin k., Sunday, 19 May 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
yeah, shouldnt be a dpoy finalist either imo
― micah, Sunday, 19 May 2019 01:50 (four years ago) link
pg was having a legit year but then fell the fuck off as per usual
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 May 2019 04:48 (four years ago) link
prob would've helped had he not torn his rotator cuff
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 19 May 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
true
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 May 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
All-Rookie First Team is the top-5 picks for the first time since the incredible draft class of 1984.Awesome note from the press release: pic.twitter.com/aMGMrzO3ZT— Micah Adams (@MicahAdams13) May 21, 2019
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
Klay finally made one!https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7MKHpvU0AAEUgP.jpg
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
also that top 3 is TIGHT
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
Is Eric Bledsoe really that good? He's never really jumped out at me but I haven't watched him too closely on D.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
i would put jrue way ahead of him.
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
My gut would be to rank him last of those ten.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
probably accurate.
only major snub i see myles turner
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link
Congrats to @smart_MS3 on the very much deserved 1st-team All-Defense selection! It's about time they started counting all these #WinningPlays pic.twitter.com/yaujuL0KZL— Max Lederman (@Max_Lederman) May 22, 2019
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, May 22, 2019 2:20 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
these awards are always lagging hell prob get there next year
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
klay and bledsoe def the bottom 2 of those 10 defensively
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link
klay's defensive metrics haven't ever been great, does his rep just come from eye test and narrative?
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
yeah but also hes really good at defense. idk why his metrics arent good. kawhis were really bad this year too.
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
his metrics arent good in part because he doesnt rebound much or force turnovers much which are the 2 easiest defensive contributions to quantify
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
which kawhi does both at an elite level, and yet.
kawhi is #235 in DRPM
whats the best defensive stat/metric anyway?
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link
idk i look at a bunch of stuff but obv theres nothing that really matters the non-discrete-event parts of defense
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link
*measures
u cant quantify basketball its mystical some might even say religious
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link
best way is probably just finding as large as possible on/off samples
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link
or summon a ghost then ask the ghost
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
wait is this voted on by media or coaches or both? coaches def know who the best defenders are
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link
Klay doesn't make spectacular defensive plays but he is so fundamentally sound on that end mentally and technique wise. I never see a team or even player try to go at him.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
feel like a lot of good perimeter defenders who also have substantial scoring loads spend a lot of the reg season coasting on the defensive end cause no one really has the energy, so u see kawhi or klay doing shutdown stuff in the offs that theyre not necessary doing all season
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link
I think we can say for sure that Bledsoe is the shortest
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
I'm thinking him, CP3, and Mookie are the shortest guys to make All D?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
this is solely voted on by media folk?? lame af
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
feel like coaches should def have a say in this
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link
would solve a lot of problems if they just let the media coach the teams while the coaches vote on the awards
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link
all groups player coaches media shd have their own awards wld be interesting to compare and contrast
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link
^co-sign
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
I hear media opinions ALL THE TIME. They're not hard to find. Meanwhile every lil nugget of "insider" talk re: how certain players are discussed, gameplanned for, evaluated, etc from coaches and current players is treasured like a rare taco and devoured by me.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
my kingdom for a compendium of scouting reports
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
media guys do so much voting based on reputation it’s dumb. this has prob been getting better over the years but still
― Clay, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 23:05 (four years ago) link
all nbahttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7RT4leUcAAzSpf.jpg
― easy ball shooter (Spottie), Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
so I guess this means there's a better chance Kemba stays in Charlotte now that they can offer him the supermax. this might end up being more of a curse than a blessing though, seems like every mega deal handed out to a PG in recent years (Wall, Paul, Westbrook, Conley) has been a mistake or looks almost certain to become one in the near future.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
I'd swap KD for PG and the rest looks ok.
― easy ball shooter (Spottie), Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link
yeah kemba should probably stay haha. only supermax that has worked is the curry one.
harden too
― easy ball shooter (Spottie), Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
seeing lebron on the 3rd team is kinda O__o but is also the right decision.
― easy ball shooter (Spottie), Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link
pg on the first team is corny
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
The fact that both Giannis and Harden were unanimous 1st team picks makes it even more apparent that the MVP race is between those two and quite close.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
I think Giannis is going to win pretty comfortably, that's my prediction.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
interesting side effect of coasting the reg season
A real-time reaction at what it looks like when you think you're getting an extra $30M and then get it clarified that you're not. Amazing video. https://t.co/FDrEWseOJs— Brian Windhorst (@WindhorstESPN) May 23, 2019
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
klay didnt coast as much as others on the team imo. he just shot poorly to start the season.
― easy ball shooter (Spottie), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link