US Politics April 2019 Thread: 'I find that pretty hard to believe'

President Trump is moving to dismantle the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), The Washington Post reported Wednesday.

love to hear what tombot thinks of this

lol they think they are going to be the rich people as soon as they hit that lotto

the message of socialism needs to be "everyone can have the same financial security as a one-million-aire" not "Bernie isn't a hypocrite for writing a book"

sic OTMFM!

Question :

If Hilary stood against Trump.

Would the people who voted for her, go "nah, I'll vote trump this time"?

Probably very few. So, the implication is there would be more switching the other way.

Then again, would people say "ah, I don't think I'll bother voting this time"?

So, the

how on earth is one even faintly implied by the other

also how is this question useful after 29 months of litigating this issue daily in these threads

might be just the break in the case we need

If Barr is back to exploring the 9dea of spying on the 2016 Trump campaign is he far from launching a further investigation into Hilary Clinton.
& that after like half the trump cabinet has been outed conducting official business on private communication devices.

Trump knows what's in the Mueller report. His sudden push to control the IRS and investigate the FBI may be his way of helping Barr justify the censorship of the report that the attorney general is going to let the senate judiciary committee see. Another normal day.

Would it be empowering for Trump/counterintuitive for the dems to begin a discussion of what to do in the even of Trump losing in 2020 but refusing to relinquish the WH?

I’m aghast that the NY Post would use this photo — the moment of death of hundreds of my fellow NYers — to score a cheap political point.

This is beyond grotesque. It’s shameful. pic.twitter.com/dxrIEWC62B

— Dan Lavoie (@djlavoie) April 11, 2019

so these motherfuckers are just trying to get this woman killed ?

Ugh.

NYPost, I don't expect them to be careful with anything, the fuckers. But I do wish she was a little more careful with her words, given that she's a right-wing target now and this seems to happen ... monthly? Bi-weekly?

ho-lee shiit

Some People Did Something and We Tortured Some Folks--pretty much sums it all up

I'm sorry Josh but that's a bullshit take. her comments were grossly taken out of context.

yeah this is the Homer Simpson "sweet sweet can" thing in real life

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/11/some-people-did-something-rep-omars-remarks-context

I read her original comments and get and agree with what she was saying. I just meant, literally, she should be more careful, because often it's not what she is saying but how she says it that gets her in hot water. Take AOC (who is not a fair comparison, but still). The stuff she says is generally at worst mildly provocative, which is why the right has to twist her words to make her look bad. Omar, though, seemingly lacks her savvy, which is why her stuff is so easily cherry picked to seem more inflammatory or controversial than it may actually be. imo.

so their strategy is working , just get her to shut the fuck up and know her place

I say fuck that shit , they are going to do this no matter what

yeah, I don't even think the uproar is about the point she was making, but rather the kind of distanced, bloodlessness of that phrase. It's not like the context really changes that.

xp yes double down on everything, there's nothing to lose imo

xpost I don't think she should shut up at all! She can say the same stuff, with the same righteous anger, just choose her words more carefully. Or maybe it doesn't matter anymore, so she can say whatever, however she wants. She does say "raise hell, make people uncomfortable." I just don't want her to get hurt.

in the very least she should continue to be herself i don't want her second guessing what she says based on making these racists uncomfortable with a muslim american woman speaking on her perspective regarding these issues. I want to hear her voice whether i decide to agree with here or not. xp

right, it's not that people on the left should just always be slash-and-burn with the way they talk and stop giving a fuck about how their words are received, but they should absolutely not give a fuck when the pushback is coming almost exclusively from people who are so clearly giving them a bad-faith reading.

I see what you're saying but lets face it, this is the first Muslim Congresswoman, they'd treat her this way even if she was mute

xpost Which AOC is a master of responding to, and Omar ... not yet.

I don't know, I hate Trump, he enrages me, and rare is the day I don't wish he would just shut up. He def. doesn't give a fuck about critics, but I wish he did.

I honestly think the only way out of this is gonna be government intervention, force Spotify/Apple Music/whatever to share more of their revenue and issue grants the way Canada (??) does

probably not gonna happen though I guess if you get Kid Rock and the Nuge behind it it'll have a shot

Take it to the politics thread.

Just saw that Trump's sister resigned as a judge to avoid facing consequences for her family tax tomfoolery.

there are no Trump judges (now)

right, it's not that people on the left should just always be slash-and-burn with the way they talk and stop giving a fuck about how their words are received, but they should absolutely not give a fuck when the pushback is coming almost exclusively from people who are so clearly giving them a bad-faith reading.

I think the first part is now correct. The left should always be slash and burn with the way they talk and stop giving a fuck how their words are received. Why not?

Some people did something = May 2019 thread title candidate.

I yearn for the days when nobody did anything.

So I wrote a thing

The New York Times reports:

President Trump’s top aides considered an idea to pressure immigration agencies to release apprehended migrants into so-called sanctuary cities represented by Democratic lawmakers, according to several people familiar with the proposal.

The idea was floated in an email by a top White House policy adviser in November, when Mr. Trump was furiously condemning migrant caravans from Central America headed toward the southwestern border, the people, including two government officials, said.

In the email dated Nov. 16, with the subject line “Sanctuary City Proposal,” May Davis, the deputy White House policy coordinator, raised the idea with officials from the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/11/politics/immigrant-detainees-sanctuary-cities/index.html

It's almost as if it was never even a little bit about securing the border. WEIRD!

ABC News reports:

Herman Cain is expected to withdraw his name from consideration for the Federal Reserve’s Board of Governors, amid growing pressure from Republican senators on the White House to remove him from consideration, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.

weird to find myself faintly nostalgic for the days when herman cain was a presidential hopeful but here we are i guess

A fourth Republican Senator says no on Herman Cain. Now we know the GOP does have its limits: don’t fuck too much with the Federal Reserve. One clown, Stephen Moore, seems to be enough.

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) April 11, 2019

good news, I'll take it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5JFkPxWqDQ

Good morning!

or.... is it?

Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 12, 2019

....The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy – so this should make them very happy!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 12, 2019

bring it on bitch

No one has trolled this hard since the Democrats made all the drugs free in Drug-Free Zones

given that the White House is operating off the principle that all illegal immigrants are murderers, how else are we supposed to take this but Trump trying to create a body count in states that are disloyal to him

"you asked for it dems! we're gonna bring in illegal immigrants and give them homes, and jobs, and an eventual path to citizenship."

that'll teach em

i don't understand how the Fake News got this one right

if they were clever i would expect this as a front for the actual operation, which would be to dump immigrants in sanctuary cities and then withhold emergency funding requests on state or federal levels so that there are, naturally, frictions from accommodating people suddenly in numbers, so that local discontent is stirred up and there are nice optics for the media