thats bad
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:25 (five years ago) link
harden is a great passer but their whole thing is so screwy
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link
its kinda funny how they almost won the chip last year via D tho
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:28 (five years ago) link
dont think this years team has the defensive talent to pull that off tho, hardens gonna have to hit those stepbacks
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:29 (five years ago) link
or get foul calls in tight games
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link
yeah i think he shd just try to make the shots
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:32 (five years ago) link
its why someone like kyrie is more valuable in the offs cos he makes hard shots instead of foul hunting.
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:33 (five years ago) link
harden is perfectly capable of making tough shots tho he maybe just needs to focus on that rather than the foul hunting
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:34 (five years ago) link
his floater game is crazy.
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link
I would disagree about kyrie being more valuable in the offs btw, harden didn’t have the luxury of playing with lebron
also let’s not forget that for all of his struggles they should have won the chip last year and he’s gotten better
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link
like this step back stuff he’s taken to a whole new level
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:07 (five years ago) link
hes gonna have to prove it in "the playoffs"
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:08 (five years ago) link
― k3vin k., Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:06 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
should clarify that i dont think kyrie is more valuable than harden in the offs, but that his skillset is more valuable during the offs
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link
sometimes a player is just that much better though regardless of skillset or else the best nba player would be like otto porter or something
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link
jeff green is the MVO (most valuable in the offs)
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link
george over jokic for MVP is so cringey
― k3vin k., Sunday, 19 May 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
yeah, shouldnt be a dpoy finalist either imo
― micah, Sunday, 19 May 2019 01:50 (four years ago) link
pg was having a legit year but then fell the fuck off as per usual
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 May 2019 04:48 (four years ago) link
prob would've helped had he not torn his rotator cuff
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 19 May 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
true
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 May 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
All-Rookie First Team is the top-5 picks for the first time since the incredible draft class of 1984.Awesome note from the press release: pic.twitter.com/aMGMrzO3ZT— Micah Adams (@MicahAdams13) May 21, 2019
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
Klay finally made one!https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7MKHpvU0AAEUgP.jpg
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
also that top 3 is TIGHT
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
Is Eric Bledsoe really that good? He's never really jumped out at me but I haven't watched him too closely on D.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
i would put jrue way ahead of him.
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
My gut would be to rank him last of those ten.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
probably accurate.
only major snub i see myles turner
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link
Congrats to @smart_MS3 on the very much deserved 1st-team All-Defense selection! It's about time they started counting all these #WinningPlays pic.twitter.com/yaujuL0KZL— Max Lederman (@Max_Lederman) May 22, 2019
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, May 22, 2019 2:20 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
these awards are always lagging hell prob get there next year
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
klay and bledsoe def the bottom 2 of those 10 defensively
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link
klay's defensive metrics haven't ever been great, does his rep just come from eye test and narrative?
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
yeah but also hes really good at defense. idk why his metrics arent good. kawhis were really bad this year too.
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
his metrics arent good in part because he doesnt rebound much or force turnovers much which are the 2 easiest defensive contributions to quantify
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
which kawhi does both at an elite level, and yet.
kawhi is #235 in DRPM
whats the best defensive stat/metric anyway?
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link
idk i look at a bunch of stuff but obv theres nothing that really matters the non-discrete-event parts of defense
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link
*measures
u cant quantify basketball its mystical some might even say religious
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link
best way is probably just finding as large as possible on/off samples
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link
or summon a ghost then ask the ghost
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
wait is this voted on by media or coaches or both? coaches def know who the best defenders are
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link
Klay doesn't make spectacular defensive plays but he is so fundamentally sound on that end mentally and technique wise. I never see a team or even player try to go at him.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
feel like a lot of good perimeter defenders who also have substantial scoring loads spend a lot of the reg season coasting on the defensive end cause no one really has the energy, so u see kawhi or klay doing shutdown stuff in the offs that theyre not necessary doing all season
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link
I think we can say for sure that Bledsoe is the shortest
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
I'm thinking him, CP3, and Mookie are the shortest guys to make All D?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
this is solely voted on by media folk?? lame af
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
feel like coaches should def have a say in this
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link
would solve a lot of problems if they just let the media coach the teams while the coaches vote on the awards
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link
all groups player coaches media shd have their own awards wld be interesting to compare and contrast
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link
^co-sign
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
I hear media opinions ALL THE TIME. They're not hard to find. Meanwhile every lil nugget of "insider" talk re: how certain players are discussed, gameplanned for, evaluated, etc from coaches and current players is treasured like a rare taco and devoured by me.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link