2019 MVPOLL (and awards predictions/talk)

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Harden's string of 87 consecutive unassisted baskets was the most insane hoops stat I have ever heard.

― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, April 10, 2019 1:53 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its impressive but also a bad way to play basketball

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link

steph is def in the convo but as far as effort day in day out body of work and so forth this season it’s harden

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link

the problem with judging day in day out body of work is it just not what the generally agreed upon goal of playing in the nba is, tho tbf it might be hardens goal

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:05 (five years ago) link

impressive but also a bad way to play basketball

that's why I chose my words carefully. it isn't sane to play a team sport like that, yet he makes it work for him at an all-star level of production.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link

its pretty psycho really

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link

like he cld play better basketball that doesnt see him chucking in the playoffs but he chooses not to

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:16 (five years ago) link

if offense is just shooting then give it to Steph, of course. but it's not. Harden is better at creating shots for other guys and insanely better at getting to the line.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link

Harden is better at creating shots for other guys

this is very false. steph is way better at making his teammates lifes easier and getting them open shots, assist #s dont tell the whole story

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link

I don't think Tucker, Green, and House even know how to dribble anymore but ok.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link

thats bad

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:25 (five years ago) link

harden is a great passer but their whole thing is so screwy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link

its kinda funny how they almost won the chip last year via D tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:28 (five years ago) link

dont think this years team has the defensive talent to pull that off tho, hardens gonna have to hit those stepbacks

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:29 (five years ago) link

or get foul calls in tight games

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link

yeah i think he shd just try to make the shots

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:32 (five years ago) link

its why someone like kyrie is more valuable in the offs cos he makes hard shots instead of foul hunting.

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:33 (five years ago) link

harden is perfectly capable of making tough shots tho he maybe just needs to focus on that rather than the foul hunting

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:34 (five years ago) link

his floater game is crazy.

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link

I would disagree about kyrie being more valuable in the offs btw, harden didn’t have the luxury of playing with lebron

also let’s not forget that for all of his struggles they should have won the chip last year and he’s gotten better

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link

like this step back stuff he’s taken to a whole new level

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:07 (five years ago) link

hes gonna have to prove it in "the playoffs"

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:08 (five years ago) link

I would disagree about kyrie being more valuable in the offs btw, harden didn’t have the luxury of playing with lebron

also let’s not forget that for all of his struggles they should have won the chip last year and he’s gotten better

― k3vin k., Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:06 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

should clarify that i dont think kyrie is more valuable than harden in the offs, but that his skillset is more valuable during the offs

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link

sometimes a player is just that much better though regardless of skillset or else the best nba player would be like otto porter or something

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link

jeff green is the MVO (most valuable in the offs)

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

george over jokic for MVP is so cringey

k3vin k., Sunday, 19 May 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link

yeah, shouldnt be a dpoy finalist either imo

micah, Sunday, 19 May 2019 01:50 (four years ago) link

pg was having a legit year but then fell the fuck off as per usual

lag∞n, Sunday, 19 May 2019 04:48 (four years ago) link

prob would've helped had he not torn his rotator cuff

J0rdan S., Sunday, 19 May 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

true

lag∞n, Sunday, 19 May 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link

All-Rookie First Team is the top-5 picks for the first time since the incredible draft class of 1984.

Awesome note from the press release: pic.twitter.com/aMGMrzO3ZT

— Micah Adams (@MicahAdams13) May 21, 2019

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

also that top 3 is TIGHT

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

Is Eric Bledsoe really that good? He's never really jumped out at me but I haven't watched him too closely on D.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

i would put jrue way ahead of him.

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

My gut would be to rank him last of those ten.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

probably accurate.

only major snub i see myles turner

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

Congrats to @smart_MS3 on the very much deserved 1st-team All-Defense selection!
It's about time they started counting all these #WinningPlays pic.twitter.com/yaujuL0KZL

— Max Lederman (@Max_Lederman) May 22, 2019

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

only major snub i see myles turner

― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, May 22, 2019 2:20 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these awards are always lagging hell prob get there next year

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

klay and bledsoe def the bottom 2 of those 10 defensively

ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

klay's defensive metrics haven't ever been great, does his rep just come from eye test and narrative?

ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

yeah but also hes really good at defense. idk why his metrics arent good. kawhis were really bad this year too.

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

his metrics arent good in part because he doesnt rebound much or force turnovers much which are the 2 easiest defensive contributions to quantify

ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

which kawhi does both at an elite level, and yet.

kawhi is #235 in DRPM

whats the best defensive stat/metric anyway?

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

idk i look at a bunch of stuff but obv theres nothing that really matters the non-discrete-event parts of defense

ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

*measures

ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

u cant quantify basketball its mystical some might even say religious

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

best way is probably just finding as large as possible on/off samples

ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

or summon a ghost then ask the ghost

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

wait is this voted on by media or coaches or both? coaches def know who the best defenders are

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

Klay doesn't make spectacular defensive plays but he is so fundamentally sound on that end mentally and technique wise. I never see a team or even player try to go at him.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link


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