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agree that nils is kinda being retconned into crazy horse (at least Neil Young & Crazy Horse), but it's not as though they're bringing like jeff ament into the band ... lofgren started playing with these guys in 1970, and the recent CH shows with him have been solid. Sampedro being out is weird, but if he wants to retire, that is cool.

tylerw, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link

It’s funny, I find Neil’s bullshit tiresome these days, while I can mostly ignore Dylan’s bullshit for some reason, as long as I keep getting Bootleg Series.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link

I mean...I agree that Nils' Crazy Horse ties (basically the first CH album) are overstated...but I mean he's on Gold Rush and TNN and other stuff I guess I consider him to be part of Neil's larger posse in general, he's a great guitarist so it feels natural to me, the shows they did with him sound great...

I also as much as I like Poncho and I do LOVE the CH stuff he's on...there's definitely hints on Fillmore East of what could have been a more impressive band IMO, if Danny was living and functional, like someone who could push Neil a bit musically and contribute himself....

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:57 (five years ago) link

Nils was a Santa Monica Flyer, which absolutely counts as Horse duty.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link

Those clips of Nils back with the Horse ... it really could be anyone. It sounded great, but he was totally de-Nils-ed.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link

He was effective on the Live In Berlin video show, dancing and serenading Neil in his Transmask.

dow, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:36 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New live album featuring the Stray Gators band, Tuscaloosa, coming out in June.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjMZrMEY4dQ

Track listing:

Here We Are In The Years (3:56)
After The Gold Rush (4:42)
Out On The Weekend (5:29)
Harvest (4:14)
Old Man (4:17)
Heart Of Gold (3:48)
Time Fades Away (6:10)
Lookout Joe (4:59)
New Mama (3:01)
Alabama (3:50)
Don’t Be Denied (8:09)

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 26 April 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

More info from The Second Disc

While he’s been forging ahead in the studio with Crazy Horse, Neil Young’s responses to fans on the Archives website indicate there’s no sign of stopping the vault releases. Homegrown, Odeon/Budokan, the Crazy Horse live document Alchemy, a remastered Trans and accompanying film, Freedom Live, Oceanside/Countryside, a Mirror Ball reissue, and more are all said to be in various stages of completion.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 April 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

are all said to be in various stages of completion.

"OK, Neil, we've got good news and bad news."

"Gimme the good news first."

"Well, your vault recordings are all set for release immediately--"

"Great!"

"...on Pono."

"Goddammit."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 29 April 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

are all said to be in various stages of completion.

"Hey you know that paper is due tomorrow?"
"Yeah I'm on it"
"Are you done with it?"
"Oh yeah"
"Can I read it?"
"Oh...well I haven't like... TYPED it out yet"

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 29 April 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

ah yes, the brainstorming phase. the first and very best stage of completion

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 29 April 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

Not exactly excited by that Tuscaloosa album. I have a dozen or more versions of many of its tracks. Getting slightly annoyed with Neil's propensity for churning out more and more of the same material

Duke, Monday, 29 April 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link

dunno -- it's got a lot of rarely played tunes — "time fades away," "alabama," "lookout joe" etc. I've heard a promo stream and it's definitely a nice companion to TFA, the stray gators sound perfect. lotta good ben keith action.

tylerw, Monday, 29 April 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

meanwhile!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5WgIN_W0AEzvJp.jpg

tylerw, Monday, 29 April 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

"one to stand alongside... all the others"
don't ever change Neil

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 29 April 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

Still want that Sleeps With Angels re-ish

omar little, Monday, 29 April 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link

so I picked up that Dead Man soundtrack reissue, and it's really good! As in, really REALLY good. I saw the film at the cinema when it came out but not since and I remember the soundtrack added to the weird old west atmosphere, but it really works as a record too. I suppose YMMV when it comes to some of the Johnny Depp-heavy dialogue excerpts but I think he reins it in in that film, so they add to the vibes.

Neil S, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 07:33 (four years ago) link

Just watched Neil's 1995 HOF speech for the first time ever--beautifully droll.

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:55 (four years ago) link

Our school concert last night (hopefully won't get pulled down for copyright). I need to keep the URL unlisted for obvious reasons.

http://youtu.be/t1h5GA58AX4

clemenza, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

did you want me to cry today or what man

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

Cool performance, thanks. Is it really a copyright infringement for a school choir/band to perform a song in public w/o permission?

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

And for that performance to be posted online?

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

doesn't he sing "mother nature on the run in the 21st century" nowadays?

StanM, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

I was wondering if you'd cut the "felt like getting high" line completely, but you changed it to "felt like I was high" which is a good compromise.

nickn, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

oh man clemenza that gets me...wrt to the lyrics i posted this upthread somewhere in the mess but i used to sing this to my girl all the time w/lyrical edits

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown) wrote this on thread neil young on board I Love Music on Jul 14, 2014

btw, when she was little for some reason i ran out of songs to sing to my daughter singing her to sleep so i started singing "after the gold rush"

now it's kind of a tradition "the song that daddy sings"...but she's almost 4 now and i'm realizing what a bummer the lyrics are so i've done some changes so she won't be all warped and depressed and shit

Well, I dreamed I saw the knights
In armor coming,
Saying something about a queen.
There were peasants singing and
Drummers drumming
And the archer split the tree.
There was a fanfare blowing
To the sun
That was floating on the breeze.
Look at Mother Nature [having fun]
In the nineteen seventies.
Look at Mother Nature [having fun]
In the nineteen seventies.

I was lying in a [cozy] basement
With the full moon in my eyes.
I was [listening to the Replacements]
When the sun burst thru the sky.
There was a band playing in my head
And I [was a lucky guy]
I was thinking about what a
Friend had said
I was hoping [that he'd say "Hi!"]
Thinking about what a
Friend had said
I was hoping [that he'd say "Hi!"]

Well, I dreamed I saw the silver
Space ships flying
In the yellow haze of the sun,
There were children [laughing]
And colors flying
All around the chosen ones.
All in a dream, all in a dream
The loading had begun.
They were flying Mother Nature's
Silver seed to a new home in the sun.
Flying Mother Nature's
Silver seed to a new home.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

there is absolutely no valid reason why homegrown hasn't been released yet, and it infuriates me to no end

J. Sam, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

Neil still playing with Promise of the Real still sucks too

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

It's clearly impossible to release more than one album at a time

Duke, Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

Thanks...We did have to alter that line, yeah (didn't even bother running it by the principal, who probably would have asked us to pick a different song altogether).

I guess it's not a copyright issue. I posted a video once where I was lip-synching in class to Dylan's "She Belongs to Me," but I was using the actual recording there, which is different. It was blocked immediately (and a week later Bob Dylan came to my house and threatened me).

clemenza, Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

UMS: great story, missed that. It's such a beautiful, childlike melody.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

UMS that's incredibly sweet, and also extremely funny.

One Eye Open, Thursday, 2 May 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

Loving the kid miming archery on the right!

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Thursday, 2 May 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link

And flossing, and air-guitaring. He's something else.

clemenza, Friday, 3 May 2019 03:52 (four years ago) link

Great video!

Also, this is the first time I ever noticed, after decades of listening to this song, that the lyric *doesn't* read "the loading OF THE GUN" (I had to check Genius to be sure).

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Friday, 3 May 2019 04:12 (four years ago) link

clemenza you should send that to Neil

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 3 May 2019 04:16 (four years ago) link

Be careful, he might fire Nils and replace him with Air-Guitar Kid.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 May 2019 04:28 (four years ago) link

Neil Young & Crazy Horse & Kid Who Flosses

We did "Till the Morning Comes" last year and I looked into that, but I didn't get anywhere finding a address that looked usable. If anyone knows of something--management, agent, etc.--I'd try it. I don't think it would be worth the trouble sending it to the record label.

clemenza, Friday, 3 May 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link

"I'd do it"

clemenza, Friday, 3 May 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Nice----will look for a post of this show (after mandated holiday slog):
https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/festivals/bottlerock-cuts-short-neil-youngs-headlining-set

dow, Sunday, 26 May 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

They've been killing it on this tour imo

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Sunday, 26 May 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

Tusaloosa is out today

not an earth shattering revelation but it's got a good vibe...really picks up steam halfway through, "Time Fades Away" and "Lookout Joe" particularly (both great solos)

also the jagged, rocked up version of "New Mama" is a really cool and very different take on the song

yeah that "time fades away" guitar break is pretty thrilling.
kind of ridiculous that on the day Dylan releases 14 discs worth of live stuff from a single tour, neil is picking and choosing little bits to put out ...

tylerw, Friday, 7 June 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

it's even more ridiculous that a major classic rock artist is sitting on multiple finished studio albums from his peak period! it's so insane

but yeah overall this is a good show, fun to hear but I think there are at least 6 things in the pipeline I'm more excited about

The Tuscaloosa set is worth a listen but not two. The performances are all excellent but not revelatory. I’ll stick with the studio versions.

L'assie (Euler), Friday, 7 June 2019 22:11 (four years ago) link

All of you who frequent this thread have to see Echo in the Canyon, a documentary on L.A. bands of the mid-'60s (but melded with newer performers being interviewed and covering famous songs). The end-credit sequence is one of the best and funniest things I've seen this year.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 11:36 (four years ago) link

In a concert at the Albert Hall in London on October 29, 1970,[2] Joni Mitchell, who was already friends with Young by the time he wrote this song, opened her song "Circle Game" with this speech:

Mitchell: "In 1965 I was up in Canada, and there was a friend of mine up there who had just left a rock'n'roll band (...) he had just newly turned 21, and that meant he was no longer allowed into his favourite haunt, which was kind of a teeny-bopper club and once you're over 21 you couldn't get back in there anymore; so he was really feeling terrible because his girlfriends and everybody that he wanted to hang out with, his band could still go there, you know, but it's one of the things that drove him to become a folk singer was that he couldn't play in this club anymore. 'Cause he was over the hill. (...) So he wrote this song that was called "Oh to live on sugar mountain" which was a lament for his lost youth. (...) And I thought, God, you know, if we get to 21 and there's nothing after that, that's a pretty bleak future, so I wrote a song for him, and for myself just to give me some hope. It's called The Circle Game."[3]

On the bootleg album Live on Sugar Mountain, released just days after the concert at which it was recorded (on February 1, 1971, at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in Los Angeles), Young talks at length about the lyrics. He says that when he first wrote the song, he

"wrote 126 verses to it. Now, you can imagine that I had a lot of trouble figuring out what four verses to use... I was underneath the stairs... Anyway, this verse that I wrote... It was the worst verse of the 126 that I wrote. So, I decided to put it in the song, to just to give everybody a frame of reference as to, you know, what can happen. What I'm trying to say here, by stopping in the middle of the song, and explaining this to you, is that... I think it's one of the lamest verses I ever wrote. And it takes a lotta nerve for me to get up here and sing it in front of you people. But, if when I'm finished singing, you sing the chorus 'Sugar Mountain' super loud, I'll just forget about it right away and we can continue."

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 17 June 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

Next Archives Release: The Other 122 Verses Of "Sugar Mountain"

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 June 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

Neil definitely the artist who makes you feel you own a dozen copies of the same live album

Duke, Monday, 17 June 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link


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