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please report back; curious to hear if that does it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 14:01 (seven months ago) link

Doing a lot of random searching and clicking on that tcclibrary site. Finding that some films are not available in Canada. All the Olympic films and all of the John Ford, for instance. White material by Claire Denis. Presumably many others. Hopefully not too many!

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 11 April 2019 03:55 (seven months ago) link

and i guess i finally decided to try a "smart tv"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 April 2019 04:11 (seven months ago) link

The discs most likely to not be on CC are classic Hollywood. Well. And modern Hollywood.

Which, totally fine.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 April 2019 05:18 (seven months ago) link

At the top of the TCC Library site, notice that there's a flag next to the number of films. If it's on the US flag, click it and it'll change to the Canadian flag and the Canada-only films.

ILX Halftime Shows Ranked — Which Was the Best? (WmC), Thursday, 11 April 2019 11:59 (seven months ago) link

oooh, handy. thankfully not a huge discrepancy between the two

Simon H., Thursday, 11 April 2019 12:22 (seven months ago) link

What are known incompatibilities?
DRM-protected content will not work on the following:

Chromecast devices
XBox One
Older models of Amazon Fire TV that are not Widevine L1 certified. However Fire TV Cube, Fire TV Gen 3, and Fire TV Stick 4K should work
All non-branded VHX apps
Linux systems

holy shit so a bulk of the library just... won't work on Chromecast?

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 11 April 2019 16:00 (seven months ago) link

that blows. why do other streaming services not have the DRM compatibility issue?

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 11 April 2019 16:43 (seven months ago) link


But why can I watch content on other sites and apps?
Many sites and apps have different content protection requirements, and implement DRM solutions in a variety of different ways. Because of this, it’s likely that behaviors will be different across our content and theirs. However, if you’re using a supported browser or a dedicated app, and still having trouble, it might be due to HDCP protection.

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:08 (seven months ago) link

another update via Reddit

I sent an email to customer service asking about the Chromecast streaming problems. This is their reply:

I’m sorry you’re having trouble playing Criterion’s content on your Chromecast.

While we have plans to build Chromecast support in the coming months, right now the technology used for our DRM implementation is not compliant with Chromecast. I’m very sorry for the frustration and disappointment I know this must bring. In case you have other options, Criterion has an app for Apple TV, Amazon Fire, Roku, and Android TV. If you have a Smart TV, you can see if it’s a TV partner with Android apps here:

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:10 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, this is all why i figured that a smart tv was worth a shot. I've had the same tube for about ten years and it has some weird buggy thing where it overheats occasionally and won't turn off unless you unplug it. Curious to see what this 4k shit is all about and it would be nice to be able to dial up mubi and criterion without any hassles... i might likely watch them more often

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:39 (seven months ago) link

I wouldn't trust a smart TV for apps, get an AppleTV.

dan selzer, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:36 (seven months ago) link

I actually just got a big "smart TV" yesterday. Runs on Roku, works great so far.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:41 (seven months ago) link

Our last TV was 1080p, worked/works great, but the new one is huuuuuge and cost maybe half as much as that one did 7 years ago. I got a discounted floor model of a TV that was already on sale at Costco, and no joke, the person helping me politely asked for a second, walked off, then came back and offered it for another $50 off before I even said anything.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:43 (seven months ago) link

yeah, i'm getting a TCL/Roku 43" for under $300. This shit got MUCH cheaper than the last time I bought a set... i think i paid 800 a decade ago for the one i currently have.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 April 2019 20:15 (seven months ago) link

Roku runs Android right? Really looking forward to having some flexibility with apps; my tivo is locked into Plex/YouTube/Hulu/HBO/Netflix/Amazon and that's about it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 April 2019 20:16 (seven months ago) link

Tried one of the HDMI splitters for removing HDCP and no dice. Might could be I got the "wrong" one since I guess different ones work with different setups? But not interested in pursuing it further, just gonna pull the plug on this. Can't believe it can be so complicated to watch movies on TV in 2019.

After Filmstruck died I rebooted the DVD-thru-mail element of my Netflix subscription and honestly cant believe I ever stopped, they have like 98% of what was in my old queue, still lots of OOP Criterion stuff floating around in the system, think I'm just gonna keep riding that horse till they decide to put it down for good.

One Eye Open, Thursday, 11 April 2019 21:56 (seven months ago) link

xpost I don't think Roku is Android, I think it's its own thing? I only use it for Netflix/Amazon/Plex/Hulu and now Criterion, but they all seem to work.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 22:03 (seven months ago) link

Honestly I fully don’t get the appeal of smart TVs when you can get a Roku for like $50 that will be way speedier, more stable, have way more channels, etc

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 April 2019 00:43 (seven months ago) link

My smart tv is a top of the line Vizio from 2017 and it CRASHES!! Like it will freeze and I have to turn it off and back on and it takes like 30-60 sec!

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 April 2019 00:44 (seven months ago) link

30-60 sec!

Sacre bleu!

Like my dedicated Roku was ever particularly reliable.

I didn't get a smart TV because it was a smart TV, I got a new TV that happened to be a smart TV (see also: 4K, HDR, etc, features that will have next to no bearing on what and how I watch but which are pretty much the default as of late). We'll see how it goes with crashes and stuff, but so far Plex at the least seems to work faster than it did via dedicated Roku.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 April 2019 01:03 (seven months ago) link

AppleTV is great, just fyi.

dan selzer, Friday, 12 April 2019 02:47 (seven months ago) link

I'm gonna plug an ethernet cable directly into this sucker; hope i'm not seeing the issues y'all are describing.
will keep apple tv in mind but i tried it years ago and was sorta meh. Then again i'm a devoted tivo guy so don't trust me.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 12 April 2019 05:17 (seven months ago) link

okay, so I got one of these:
and on day one, it's great! set up netflix, hulu, prime, plex, mubi, criterion, youtube, pbs, spotify for streaming easily and without a hiccup; tivo/switch/ps4 are more quickly accessible than they've ever been.picture quality seems fine, but i'm going to have to tinker. all in all, fixed the problems with a reasonably cheap entry point... presuming it don't bust shortly.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 12 April 2019 17:39 (seven months ago) link

asked and answered

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:52 (seven months ago) link

Very nice.

The Carjackers Quickly Dumped ILX Once They Saw What Was Inside (WmC), Friday, 12 April 2019 22:02 (seven months ago) link

Sacre bleu!

American TV shows are 19 minutes long: if your TV just decides to turn itself off and takes 60 seconds to turn back on, you've missed over 5% of the programme.

blokes you can't rust (sic), Friday, 12 April 2019 22:06 (seven months ago) link

not missing much

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 April 2019 22:07 (seven months ago) link

xp, full film list not yet on the app tho'

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 12 April 2019 22:07 (seven months ago) link

Nope. And in the filter function, they created a button for the 1900s (0 results) but forgot the button for the 1910s. You can do that manually in the URL and get yr 13 results.

The Carjackers Quickly Dumped ILX Once They Saw What Was Inside (WmC), Friday, 12 April 2019 22:14 (seven months ago) link

Looks like the full film list won't come to the app or iOS. From the email they sent out this afternoon --

The number one request was for an “all films” list, and just in time for your viewing pleasure here it is! This desktop-only feature will allow you to see all the films on the Criterion Channel and organize them by title, director, year, and country. We hope this helps you navigate the more than 1,500 titles available now on the service!

The Carjackers Quickly Dumped ILX Once They Saw What Was Inside (WmC), Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:25 (seven months ago) link

i imagine the app will improve over the upcoming month. Even so, they've rolled out kinda haphazardly tbh.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 13 April 2019 14:47 (seven months ago) link

I mean, this is a boutique proposition, and for clearing the rights on this library alone, it’s cool. I was able to send off my Friday with Querelle and I was very happy.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 April 2019 15:57 (seven months ago) link

Is there a reason why some Criterion titles are apparently not available to stream? I subscribed to Filmstruck from the start and never saw The Harder They Come pop up, and it's not listed on the new channel, either.

Jazzbo, Saturday, 13 April 2019 17:13 (seven months ago) link

Prickly rightsholder one presumes.

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2019 18:21 (seven months ago) link

Same reason Netflix or Prime don't have things, they don't own the streaming rights.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 13 April 2019 18:38 (seven months ago) link

The All Films list is nice, but its usefulness is limited in that there is no way to use it to add films to one's own list, even by clicking through to the film.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Saturday, 13 April 2019 21:12 (seven months ago) link

I noticed that, very frustrating.

The Carjackers Quickly Dumped ILX Once They Saw What Was Inside (WmC), Saturday, 13 April 2019 21:58 (seven months ago) link

enjoyed the bonus features for Wanda today
the documentary was kinda boring (all about acting!) but i enjoyed the interviews and hearing a little more from Barbara Loden herself

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 April 2019 05:50 (seven months ago) link


"Our Betters" is WONDERFUL and iirc never even made it to VHS (let alone DVD or Blu)

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:10 (six months ago) link

yeah really excited for that--I've only seen Gaslight out of that whole list

rob, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:33 (six months ago) link

B-b-but have you see the original Gaslight?

Theory of Every Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:35 (six months ago) link

I have not! I didn't even know it existed until you posted that, but I do love Walbrook

rob, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:38 (six months ago) link

screening on VHS at my house next week

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:45 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

"Our Betters" was pretty delightful--thanks for repping it Stevie. It's basically a filmed play but Constance Bennett and, especially, Violet Kemble-Cooper are such fun. And I don't know what to say about the last five minutes.

Also, I'm not one to swoon over women's fashion, but Bennett looks phenomenal in every scene:

I have to say, having spent the last five years in Canada at a loss for how to see classic/arty/etc cinema, this service has been a godsend. If only they'd put a My List link in the top nav.

rob, Friday, 17 May 2019 14:20 (six months ago) link


vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 04:47 (six months ago) link

Had no idea Criterion was currently hosting a ton of Godzilla!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 22:49 (five months ago) link

yeah filmstruck was too, seemed like part of their marketing strategy

j., Tuesday, 28 May 2019 23:07 (five months ago) link

So the Channel will have the full edition of Hedwig and the Angry Inch, supplements and such, three and a half weeks before the disc release, as in tomorrow. That's a pretty nice trick.

The Bite Game with Jim Lamprey (WmC), Saturday, 1 June 2019 02:26 (five months ago) link

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