Do You Remember the First POLL? - Pulp - His 'n' Hers

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eheh, I had forgotten how "She's a Lady" is basically a remake of "I Will Survive" !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 12:45 (six months ago) link

agree Joyriders sounds like Suede.

Babies was my first Pulp song, I heard it via buying Independent 20 vol 16 because I'd seen the videos for Medication by Spiritualized and Winona by Drop Nineteens on The Chart Show's Indie Chart (yeah yeah 90s nostalgia blah blah), and I don't think they ever topped it so it's hard not to vote for it, whether it's really part of the album or not (I had no idea it wasn't on the LP tbh)

I had a passing resemblance to Jarvis in the mid-90s, I don't really look like him imo but I have floppy hair, am tall and at the time was very skinny, and wear glasses and that's enough for most people. So I kinda shied away from Pulp a bit around Different Class because I didn't like people thinking I was some kind of fanboy trying to copy his style. I came back around a bit after hearing The Fear at a friend's house.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 12:52 (six months ago) link

When I first got into indie-type music there was long time when this and the Suede s/t were two of the three indie-type albums I actually owned on CD (the third was Monster), I never made the Ed Buller connection at the time but I can definitely hear some similarities in the guitar sounds, 'Joyriders' for sure but also 'Do You Remember the First Time' (I can remember a friend saying that was the only Pulp song he liked because it sounded like Suede).

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:04 (six months ago) link

Hum. "DYRTFT" might actually sound like Suede... circa "Coming Up" !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:17 (six months ago) link

I remember hearing and loving ...First Time on the radio at around the same time, but the first Pulp song I got my very own repeat-playable copy of was Lipgloss on a free CD with a magazine, and I became slightly obsessed with it, playing it on repeat, almost living in every swell and wiggle and bubble of the synth line

so, Lipgloss, with an apologetic glance in the direction of First Time (and Babies tbf)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:48 (six months ago) link

Listened through and it was David's Last Summer this time. Had me again at "Walking to parties while it's still light outside".

woof, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:02 (six months ago) link

His 'n' Hers IS awfully reverby though. It always sounds like you're listening to it in the bathroom. Could be a better record (and it's already a really good record) with different production.

― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:11 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's no more or less reverby than the two that came after, IMO!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:26 (six months ago) link

Are we talking actual reverb pedals or 50 layers of synths?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:29 (six months ago) link

In fact, thinking about it, This is Hardcore is probably more reverby than His 'n' Hers. The drums are absolutely soaked in it, particularly on 'This is Hardcore', 'The Fear' and 'Help the Aged' ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:34 (six months ago) link

I should have listened to this before voting! David's Last Summer didn't hit me like I remembered until the somewhat ominous (and reverb drenched) last minute and a half. The disco drama of She's a Lady on the other hand had me punching the air, and I'd forgotten the chorus of Have You Seen Her Lately. Really anything could have got my vote except for Joyriders, Happy Endings, and Someone Like the Moon.

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Thursday, 11 April 2019 08:32 (six months ago) link

xps I know what you mean - very echoey on the vocals compared to what came later.

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 11 April 2019 10:22 (six months ago) link

Really anything could have got my vote except for Joyriders, Happy Endings, and Someone Like the Moon.

With you there until the comma. I love Happy Endings & Someone Like The Moon but Joyriders is the only track on this album that I'm not so fond of.

"Joyriders" in particular sounded a lot like Suede.

Maybe that's why - I've never been into Suede!

Valentijn, Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:06 (six months ago) link

there's a lot to enjoy on it, freaks and definitely on separations. it weirds out my brain that It came out a week before Hand In Glove.

― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:22 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree that those albums have their highlights, just that I find them far less consistent than what followed.

What do people generally consider to be the beginning of prime Pulp, anyway? His 'n' Hers? The Gift Recordings? The single version of 'Countdown'? Separations?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:19 (six months ago) link

Separations is the start for me. But it's an odd one as it was recorded before the hiatus in 1989 and half of it is in their Slavic folk style which was very much not part of Prime Pulp.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:30 (six months ago) link

They didn't play an awful lot from it on the His 'n' Hers tour, did they? I have a lot of time for the second half of Separations, mind.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:25 (six months ago) link

I'd forgotten the chorus of Have You Seen Her Lately


sarahell, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:52 (six months ago) link

it kinda reminds me of "Beauty School Dropout"

sarahell, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:53 (six months ago) link

like Jarvis was my "early 20s Angel" idk

sarahell, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:54 (six months ago) link

I like early Pulp a lot (love Freaks), but prime Pulp for me starts with the Gift singles. 1992-1994 Pulp rivals 1980-83 New Order for me as best era of a band I love - so many great a-sides and fantastic b-sides, and HNH is such a fab album.

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Friday, 12 April 2019 00:33 (six months ago) link

Yeah, the Gift singles is when things really get good. Intro actually makes a really solid album with some of their most underrated songs (O.U, Stacks, Inside Susan). If I'm going to listen to Pulp these days, it's either that or the second disc of the His 'n' Hers reissue. The B-sides on there are almost Suede level of brilliant. The Sisters EP alone is one of the highlights of their career. Seconds is my favourite Pulp song.

kitchen person, Friday, 12 April 2019 01:01 (six months ago) link

Pink Glove really stood out for me on this album

Dan S, Friday, 12 April 2019 01:04 (six months ago) link

Love Separations, warts and all. Why Fire Records sat on it for so long while they finally began to 'make waves' is baffling

PaulTMA, Friday, 12 April 2019 01:32 (six months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 00:01 (six months ago) link

Pink Glove was the first Pulp song I fell in love with, so gotta go with that.

GlengoolieBlue, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 01:59 (six months ago) link

finally listening to it again, and still leaning towards babies, though it doesn't have the sonic heft of 'first time' or 'pink glove,' it's probably the prettiest pulp song, which counts for something.

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 14:49 (six months ago) link

I ended up going for 'Acrylic Afternoons' in the end.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:07 (six months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 00:01 (six months ago) link

I can understand how those particular tracks with zero votes ended up in that position, but the album is remarkably light on filler really. I think I voted for "David's Last Summer", somewhat arbitrarily.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 00:17 (six months ago) link

i think she's a lady is a bit underrated, great full bass sound. a dry run for i spy

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 00:24 (six months ago) link

2019 results

Babies 14
Pink Glove 13
Do You Remember the First Time? 11
David's Last Summer 5
Lipgloss 4
Acrylic Afternoons 4
Joyriders 2
Have You Seen Her Lately? 1
Happy Endings 0
Someone Like the Moon 0
She's a Lady 0

2007 results

Babies 9
Pink Glove 8
Lipgloss 6
Do You Remember The First Time? 5
Acrylic Afternoons 3
David's Last Summer 3
Razzmatazz 1
She's a Lady 1
Someone Like the Moon 0
Happy Endings 0
Have You Seen Her Lately? 0
Joyriders 0

blokes you can't rust (sic), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 00:27 (six months ago) link

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