who is it that her (extremely wonderful) voice reminds me of?
― mookieproof, Sunday, 7 April 2019 01:14 (five years ago) link
Karen Carpenter.
Theres a lot of Todd Rundgren' Something/Anything style arrangments here,which is wonderful.
Tracks 2,3,4,8 are masterpieces imo. Don't really care about the rest (yet?!).
Can't stand Movies.
― nostormo, Sunday, 7 April 2019 04:31 (five years ago) link
"It's not a cloning or imitation"
Xpost
Is it? The line between being authentic and ironuc is very thin here.Either way, pastiche or not, i like it
― nostormo, Sunday, 7 April 2019 04:37 (five years ago) link
"seems pretty weird if they both thought of it but maybe it's a coincidence who knows"
She claims it's a coincidence
― nostormo, Sunday, 7 April 2019 04:40 (five years ago) link
I wasn’t crazy about Movies when I first heard it either, but gradually, in anticipation of the last third of the song, it has become one of the stand-outs for me.
― alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Sunday, 7 April 2019 07:38 (five years ago) link
Mirror Forever was the one I woke up with in my head today
― imago, Sunday, 7 April 2019 08:31 (five years ago) link
A Lot's Gonna Change was the one I woke up with in my head today
― fragglerock, Sunday, 7 April 2019 09:30 (five years ago) link
I'm struggling to connect with this a little, it sounds lovely when it's on but it's not drawing me in as much as Front Row Seat To Earth did. If I had to put my finger what was missing this time it's the art of the sublime chord change which really elevated the best songs on the last album.
Obviously her voice is great but she sings almost everything in the same way, which kinda makes the album slip past a little without quite touching the sides.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 7 April 2019 10:49 (five years ago) link
This is my initial feeling as well (fwiw 'Generation Why' was the highlight of FRSTE for me) but I hope to be proven wrong by the 20th spin.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 7 April 2019 10:52 (five years ago) link
that's pretty much what happened to me
― imago, Sunday, 7 April 2019 11:12 (five years ago) link
weird that this one hit me so immediately idk
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 April 2019 12:57 (five years ago) link
i feel sort of similarly to matt, except i do prefer this one to FRSTE. it sounds great, the songs are memorable enough, lovely arrangements etc. but i'm not really feeling that drawn to it. maybe it's just that the thing she seems to be doing very well on this album isn't really something i want out of music at the moment that much?
― ufo, Sunday, 7 April 2019 13:04 (five years ago) link
I've just realised how incredibly much Movies reminds me of both the opening and closing theme from the Mishima OST. (Not that that's a bad thing)
― alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Sunday, 7 April 2019 13:28 (five years ago) link
Funny that the one song I think is the weakest ("Movies" ) is the one most critics seem drawn to on this. Still, a near perfect album for me.
― Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 7 April 2019 14:21 (five years ago) link
Is it? The line between being authentic and ironuc is very thin here.
Referring specifically to her vis a vis Grant in my comparison.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 7 April 2019 15:34 (five years ago) link
Have been listening to this on repeat all weekend and I'm pretty sure it's a masterpiece.
― Stevie T, Sunday, 7 April 2019 20:22 (five years ago) link
On first listen its a lovely album but not as good as The Innocents but one listen isn't enough.
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Monday, 8 April 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link
Movies is wonderful though.
This is so great. Also a little perplexed at how much love Movies is being given above all other tracks when there are so many brilliant songs here.
Chord progression on Wild Time reminds me of Karma Police.
― triggercut, Monday, 8 April 2019 03:35 (five years ago) link
is that an actual Glass sample on "Movies"?
― Simon H., Monday, 8 April 2019 03:37 (five years ago) link
The first part of Wild Time when she sings those "pa pa pa pa"'s (which can also be heard on Something to Believe) is so great.
Too bad she abandons this melody afterwards for something else. Still, great song.
― nostormo, Monday, 8 April 2019 04:09 (five years ago) link
I'm so in love with this. The second half of the album is perfect. Mirror Forever and Wild Time are the ones that have been stuck in my head for the last couple of days.
― triggercut, Thursday, 11 April 2019 12:30 (five years ago) link
I listened to this album without knowing her previous work and at first I thought it sounded good but the songs didn't seem very memorable...Then after listening again a couple of times, it all clicked and... wow, I love this album !Her voice, the complex songwriting/harmonic structures, the production and arrangements... it's all fantastic.Some melodies/chord changes may not seem very strong at first but once you get them, they're so deep and beautiful.Agreed that "Movies" is kind of a standalone piece in the middle of an otherwise pretty cohesive album. But it's quite something. A kind of spiritual piece.
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 15 April 2019 10:21 (five years ago) link
This is such an impressively produced album, her voice is a miracle
I find the songs topically uninteresting and the melody/chord choices to be that frustrating place where the added 7ths and chromaticism just create a kind of emotional formlessness
I find the production fairly consistent but the songwriting really diverse, sometimes I hear ABBA, sometimes Jim O’Rourke, sometimes Beach House, and a lot of times Rufus Wainwright
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 15 April 2019 14:06 (five years ago) link
Does anyone think her voice is a bit like Aimee Mann's? A little bit like Thom Yorke on 'Andromeda Rising' too.
― aphoristical, Monday, 15 April 2019 22:37 (five years ago) link
After listening to this a few more times, I think it might have been better if they had changed the tracklisting a little.
Maybe it's because I'm more familiar with the first part (including "Movies") than with the second part but I think the begining is stronger.Especially since "Movies" is such a special and huge beast which kinda breaks the flow of the album and after it there are only 3 songs and an instrumental, the whole thing is a bit unbalanced imo ("Wild Time' is great but "Mirror Forever" and "Picture Me Better" might be the weaker tracks on the album).I think it works better to put "Nearer to Thee" as a musical interlude in the middle of the album, after "Something to Believe", and move "Titanic Rising" and "Movies" to the end of the album (the two go well together and it's difficult to put ANYTHING after "Movies").I've remade it that way in my spotify library !
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 09:47 (five years ago) link
Yep. The albun sounds better after you get used to it. Something To Believe is the best song in here. Surprised it's not a single. Yet?!
― nostormo, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link
i like this but i think the last album is better
this is the type of production that scans as impressive so i'm not surprised it's gonna be seen as the best, but the last one let things breathe a bit more in a way i like better
both fine albums though
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
‘hang on’ still her best song
― flopson, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 20:04 (five years ago) link
opening 7 tracks of The Innocents every bit as good as the next two albums yeah
― imago, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 20:08 (five years ago) link
Oh so not knowing her previous stuff I understand there’s much better stuff to discover ?That’s good news considering how I love this album !
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 20:54 (five years ago) link
ok, i am now officially addicted to her music.
Also, the Front Row record is very underrated and as good as Titanic imo
― nostormo, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 03:51 (five years ago) link
Not bad. Not addicted here (yet).
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 13:09 (five years ago) link
Ann Powers of NPR has now acclaimed on twitter
― curmudgeon, Monday, 29 April 2019 11:29 (four years ago) link
I might be in the minority here in thinking Front Row Seat to Earth is her best and as good as if not still better than Titanic
― octobeard, Monday, 29 April 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
I also think Front Row Seat to Earth is her best. I'm still not hearing what a lot of people in this thread are hearing in Titanic Rising, it's still registering as a not bad but ultimately disappointing followup to Front Row Seat. I'm going to keep listening though, maybe I'll figure it out.
― silverfish, Monday, 29 April 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
I think FRSTE is marginally her best as well but I also think both of these are 10/10 all-time albums
― imago, Monday, 29 April 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
Ann's acclaim was tacked on to a very strange NPR Music tweet touting a First Listen stream and stating that this record is out May 3.
It was out in early April.
Even WB retweeted and was like "OK, sure, let's release it again"
Weird!
― alpine static, Monday, 29 April 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link
This is a very beautiful record. Can definitely hear Rufus Wainwright in a couple of the melodies. Can see why Movies keeps being namechecked- it stands out sonically from everything else in palette, but I don’t think it’s especially stronger than anything else here. Interested to hear previous albums if people think this isn’t the best.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 08:33 (four years ago) link
The Pinefox and I went to see her in London last week and she was incredible. Threw in a low key cover of 'God Only Knows' and completely owned it. A very charming and funny stage presence as well. Would like to hear a performance with a full orchestra at some point - presumably in the autumn before it cleans up in all the albums of the year polls.
― Stevie T, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link
Ah I planned to see her this friday but I’ve just injured my foot so I doubt I can make it !
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link
I keep coming back to this - almost despite myself. My issue with it, I think, is her (incredible) voice seems to swoop and soar with each melody line, filling the available sonic space, when I'd like to hear the tracks breathe a bit, letting the instrumentation carry out some of the melodic work. I've explained that really badly and, anyway, I really like it so it's not a criticism as such.
Also, I didn't know she was in Jackie-O Motherfucker. Props.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link
Front Row has some prog influences, almost no guitar, it's kinda lo-fi, more indie and a little weird. It contains 3 masterpieces: Do you need my love, Diary and Used to be. It has some fillers too.
Titanc is more accessible, beautifully produced,first half is almost perfect. Something to believe is the best song here imo.
Both are great for different reasons. Hard to compare. But the best songs in Front Row are better than thoae of Titanic. my 2 cents.
― nostormo, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link
would largely agree
― imago, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link
except I wouldn't class anything on either album as filler
― imago, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
Yeah, filler is not the right word. less good than the rest maybe
― nostormo, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
It's not really filler, but both albums kind of burn me out about halfway through. I still love them though.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
Yeah first halves of both records combined wouldve been a masterpiece record for the ages
― nostormo, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
The best tracks off these two albums and the Innocents would make for quite the record, but the weaker tracks are still v good
― imago, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
Here singing is so much better and versatile after The Innocents. It didn't occur to me she had such a beutiful voice before Front Row.
― nostormo, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link