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mh, Saturday, 6 April 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

it's so good! this al ewing guy is going places, lemme tell ya

the horror vibe works so well with the hulk, it's weird that it's been so rarely explored. it feels a lot like moore's swamp thing to me, which is about as high a praise as i can offer a book like this. lots of high weirdness and unexpected, unnerving twists on old tropes - it's a great example of a writer playing in new ways in the the marvel sandbox

i was definitely not expecting it to be emotionally affecting, but the moment in issue #13 where the hulk outlines his true relationship with banner (trying v hard not to spoil here) really got to me!

a photographer, satanist and ukip voter (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 8 April 2019 10:35 (five years ago) link

the devil hulk!

mh, Monday, 8 April 2019 13:57 (five years ago) link

one could say immortal hulk has given me

sympathy for the devil

TV presenter and animal lover, Matt Baker (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 8 April 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link

Another unexpected consequence: some actually pretty awesome, non-boring Alex Ross covers

https://i.redd.it/5x3syd9anls11.jpg

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 8 April 2019 14:14 (five years ago) link

yeah, he's been doing really good work! and i say that as an avowed alex ross hater

TV presenter and animal lover, Matt Baker (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 8 April 2019 14:16 (five years ago) link

emaciated hulk vs eviscerated absorbing man was a v cool visual

TV presenter and animal lover, Matt Baker (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 8 April 2019 14:16 (five years ago) link

for sure
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/myfgjWIzTd4/hqdefault.jpg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 8 April 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link

Moore's Swamp Thing is the exact comparison I've seen in glowing reviews that I've only glanced at for fear of spoilers. I look forward to reading it sometime in 2024 when I'm caught up with stuff being currently released (starting Secret Empire soon, can't wait for two years ago!).

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 April 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link

If it'll help, Immortal Hulk seems pretty much entirely removed from other continuity.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 April 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link

I'm enthusiastic but also worried about the idea someone will pitch and actually get to write a Puck (mini)series after he's been a great character in several books, Immortal Hulk included

mh, Monday, 8 April 2019 15:58 (five years ago) link

i feel like ewing is def angling for a puck-led book at some point

TV presenter and animal lover, Matt Baker (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 8 April 2019 16:00 (five years ago) link

Puck's the next John Constantine.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 April 2019 16:01 (five years ago) link

Got to say, I was pretty underwhelmed by the usually great John Cassaday's cover to the recently released Conan Omnibus.

That said, editorial actually did some work on this one and it is packed with some really good bonus stuff if you are a fan of the original Barry Windsor Smith era of the title. They redid the colors more to the original 4 color and they don't look bad, always going to look different as the paper stock is so much brighter white in the first place.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51zK4pwlXqL.jpg

earlnash, Monday, 8 April 2019 16:42 (five years ago) link

This one is better. Don't get what happened to Conan's head on the omnibus, I guess that is volcano head or something.

https://www.previewsworld.com/SiteImage/CatalogImage/STL106693?type=1

I kinda like modern artists doing interpretations of the original covers, if they have to use one not from the original series.

earlnash, Monday, 8 April 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link

I know this is a nerdy, late-night-at-summer-camp discussion topic, but has Marvel ever offered a cosmological explanation for how its different “universes” were created* & how they exist in relation to each other; why so many details across the various Earth-xxx’s are the same, but then timelines/characters diverge at certain points; how warping between them is so easily achieved; etc.? Or is it just “comic book logic”?

*notwithstanding their re-creation by Franklin Richards in the wake of Secret Wars, or whatever went on there.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 11 April 2019 04:04 (five years ago) link

I don't know, and looking at DC, I don't want to know.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 11 April 2019 07:43 (five years ago) link

Ahem, I believe you'll find that, while Franklin Richards created the Heroes Reborn universe in the wake of Onslaught, that it was actually Franklin's father who was instrumental in the creation of Prime Earth after the end of Secret Wars. (pushes up glasses, brushes nacho crumbs from stained Wlzards of the Coast t-shirt)

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 April 2019 10:20 (five years ago) link

Morrison actually did a decent job of putting the multiversal shit in order over at DC (even if DC ultimately took a shit all over his attempts). Marvel hasn't made quite as sweeping an attempt afaik.

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 April 2019 10:24 (five years ago) link

Al Ewing's Ultimates series (two of them when you count a mid-run renumbering, iirc) get into the cosmic entities pushing the buttons outside of the multiverse in a fun way

mh, Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:53 (five years ago) link

yeah, i'm working my way through those at the moment and there's some v fun cosmic creation/destruction stuff in there

this al ewing guy is going places, lemme tell ya

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:54 (five years ago) link

I mean, I like other writers but he's good at what he's doing.

I'm kind of making the uncharitable assumption (well, uncharitable for the other writers) that he's responsible for most of the good character beats in the Avengers crossover fiasco title, too.

mh, Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link

i've only just started catching up with his stuff on marvel unlimited and his morrison / moore / ellis influences are worn maybe a little too obviously on his sleeve sometimes but the stories themselves are always fun and creative

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:04 (five years ago) link

Mighty Avengers had a lot of heart and he salvaged about half the character team for the Ultimates gig

the actual series was screwed over by a relaunch that was immediately jacked up by that Axis event, and then ended relatively early due to another

mh, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link

man, i HATE these
https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/ut-graphic-tees/marvel-x-jason-polan

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

not feeling those

mh, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

Draftsmanship on the buildings is p tight, everything Marvel-related looks like hot trash.

Guess those decades of IP really panned out, huh?

It’s wild to see this marginal-seeming stuff I grew up with turn into a zillion-dollar cultural juggernaut. Excelsior, I guess...

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link

i hear you with that. The entire world is obsessed with a Darkseid knock-off!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 29 April 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link

Would legit have liked to see Thanos taken down by Hawkeye and Ant-Man.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 29 April 2019 05:51 (four years ago) link

I lost track of Jason Aaron's Thor as it got a bit dithery towards the middle of the Jane Foster run. The last book, though, "The Death of..." is a real return to form.

Not sure about the crossover stuff right now, as I haven't got that far...

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link

I'm wondering if there's a maximum number of big crossovers per year and they've been pushing the "war of the realms" that Aaron's been writing across Thors down the road for quite a while

mh, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

War of the Realms is typical Marvel insanity with regards to their publishing - a million tie-in minis. I'll wait until they're all collected and hope they end up at the library.

Nhex, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

So how y'all feel about Hickman's (apparently long-planned) major overhaul of everything X-related? I know his Avengers run is divisive but I'll be damned if I know why. Dude's pretty much torn it up with all his Marvel work so I'm psyched to see what's in store.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Monday, 20 May 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link

I'm down for the two weekly miniseries, will see how it continues from there. I'm guessing everything they've done this year in Uncanny (Disassembled/Age of X) is some kind of set-up/filler for whatever he has in store.

Nhex, Monday, 20 May 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

I know his Avengers run is divisive but I'll be damned if I know why.
He excels at writing intricate long-term plots, but often the smaller details and character moments get overwhelmed by those grandiose arcs. I liked the massive Avengers megastory culminating with Secret Wars, but the fact remains that he failed to give most of the characters an individual voice, and wrote some of them (such a Thanos) in a way that contradicts how they'd been portrayed before. His FF run was somewhat better in this regard, because he had a smaller to cast to work with, so he did manage to do some nice characterisation too, especially with Reed.

But yeah, given that the X-franchise is kinda defined by its large cast of quirky and unique characters, I'm not sure if Hickman is necessarily the best fit for it.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 07:29 (four years ago) link

I think Hickman's on record about having Thanos foisted upon him. He did seem rather shoehorned into the saga.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 11:57 (four years ago) link

I guess I do understand the qualms re: characterization, although I think he did all right given the scope of the story he was juggling. In the case of the impending X books, I think he's only committed to the two minis so I'd assume he's just engaged more with the worldbuilding, which I'm cool with.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link

I think Hickman's on record about having Thanos foisted upon him. He did seem rather shoehorned into the saga.
Even if a character is foisted upon you, that doesn't mean you don't have to respect the character's history. The way Thanos acts in Infinity and Secret Wars is as if The Infinity Gauntlet and his subsequent character development never happened. Though I guess we can blame Bendis for that too, but there was no need for Hickman to go down the same road. Given that his Avengers/SW arc ended in a complete reboot, he probably could've written Thanos any way wanted to.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

"any way HE wanted to"

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

Nah I geddit. There's probably an argument to be made that Thanos should only be written by or in consultation with Starlin (an edict which Marvel clearly doesn't respect inasmuch as Starlin has said the next Thanos hardcover is his last work for them).

FWIW, Thanos is one of the very small handful of characters who actually survived the destruction and recreation of the universe in Secret Wars so he is, in theory at least, the same Thanos he's always been.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link

Excited by this! There hasn’t been a big-ticket, over-complex long-ass run on something at Marvel or DC that I’ve enjoyed for a while - probably since GMo’s Batman and Hickman’s Avengers runs, really. Everything Hickmsn’s done for Marvel has been great or at least interesting - unusually, it’s his indie work where he’s more variable.

(Tbh I don’t really care about Thanos or his character consistency)

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

In the case of the impending X books, I think he's only committed to the two minis so I'd assume he's just engaged more with the worldbuilding, which I'm cool with.

He’s writing an ongoing after the minis too!

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

Didn't know that! Cool.

Yeah the two storylines you mention and maybe like Annihilation et al are probably my favorite mainstream epics of the century. Would love to think this might reach those heights but I'm tempering my expectations.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

They’re doing a Marvel Age reprint series; I picked up the Black Widow volume... it reprints six old stories (going back to Mystic Comics #4), and has a long introduction by Ralph Macchio.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

Knowing nothing about it other than the bus ads (and, of course, the underlying property), I think I may like to see the “Dark Phoenix” movie when it opens in a few weeks. #ClaremontCinema

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 27 May 2019 02:30 (four years ago) link

Have the recent X-Movies been decent-ish? (not counting “Logan,” which I did see)

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 27 May 2019 02:31 (four years ago) link

Eh. First couple Young X-Folks flicks were dece, Apocalypse was kinda lame and forgettable. You should maybe catch up on everything since First Class, but also probably don't bother since they're pretty much only screening this film because it was finished when Disney bought Fox.

John Denver – Led Zeppelin IV (Part II) (Old Lunch), Monday, 27 May 2019 03:36 (four years ago) link

I just wanna see that shuttle cockpit heat da fuq up

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 27 May 2019 05:08 (four years ago) link

Seems feeble that they're doing a Dark Phoenix movie AGAIN, as though there aren't some other X-plots over the years to draw on.


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