Better Call Saul

Sounds like it's driven by cast members with commitments elsewhere:

http://theplaylist.net/amc-better-call-saul-season-5-2020-20190405/?fbclid=IwAR10afGkHuYJr495KPzkVcQH8ZWmsi7Rj-zYE5MVjDGkJYq0Dyxp2Sh6atM

That reminds me that the most interesting thing awaiting--"Well, we know clearly the end was already written before the beginning began"--is how and where BCS segues into BB. I actually thought they were ready for that at the end of season 1, when Jimmy drove away from parking-lot Mike (humming "Smoke on the Water") saying he'd never get bogged down doing the right thing again. But he goes on to cycle through that epiphany like six more times.

Noooo we’ll all be dead by 2020 wtf

So is the Jesse show gonna wind up dropping before the next season of BCS now or what

Is it a show? Thought it was just a movie

Which of the BCS cast are in other shows/movie commitments I wonder?

Season 5 starts shooting this week. Rhea Seehorn was on Veep tonight, which shot last year.

I assumed that "talent needs" referred to Gould, btw, rather than eg Patrick Fabian.

just caught up to the final episode, that last scene with Mike & Werner definitely slipped into the Breaking Bad world - felt a bit like *that* scene with Gale

the whole thing with Kai (the only German worker who gets named) felt like a big fakeout, though - he doesn't do anything!!

Well, yeah. Mike (and the audience) expected so much for him to be the rogue element that he failed until too late to realize that the real problem was right under his nose.

It is interesting to note how tonally dissimilar the two shows were when BCS started (compare, for instance, Tuco's appearances in the first season of each) and the extent to which that gap has slowly closed.

I figured it wouldn't go the obvious route (Kai's not paying attention...Kai knocked over the support beam...Kai gets kicked out of the strip joint...hey, Kai can oversee the work while I'm gone!) but to not have his character do anything was kind of bizarre. I thought they'd do something clever with him.

still...really great ending. heart broke a bit for Kim at the end - dunno if it was about being tricked by Jimmy's big courtroom speech or if she started to realize just how manipulative he really is.

While there are vast degrees of difference between the situations and the infractions involved, that scene seems to parallel the one on BB when Jesse overhears Walt singing a jaunty tune after they'd just finished disposing of the body of a child.

The main difference being that it’s quite likely Jimmy is conning himself as much as anyone, consciously developing a shell rather than admit to hurting, whereas Walter by that point genuinely didn’t give a shit

Oh yeah. The parallel is more in the reactions of Jesse and Kim to these dudes who are more fucked up than they realized (or than they allowed themselves to realize).

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/2477588/better-call-sauls-bob-odenkirk-knows-when-kim-goes-away-itll-be-the-end-of-jimmy

2020? Season 6? Both those sound like a sure way to lose whatever momentum/interest remains. On the other hand, that would all be rendered moot if they came back really strong.

Financial backing of television seasons is kinda like the structure of family feud - nothing really matters because the final round is triple bonus anyway

Also this series is not really going for “momentum” lol

I’m just worried someone will croak before they finish it

That's why I put momentum/interest--I simply meant that if you stay away long enough, people lose interest. They went 2015/16/17/18; I thought they'd resume this fall.

no you didn't!

update: no new eps until 2020.

― blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, April 6, 2019 7:28 AM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sounds like it's driven by cast members with commitments elsewhere:

http://theplaylist.net/amc-better-call-saul-season-5-2020-20190405/?fbclid=IwAR10afGkHuYJr495KPzkVcQH8ZWmsi7Rj-zYE5MVjDGkJYq0Dyxp2Sh6atMVjNE10nsTxUhLWe495XCmxIpDU8MJzfv7Ew-mLR5ZIwQTxWLd0Qlkc2Fu6ngZZƃu9nℲᄅɔʞlQ0p˥Mx┴QʍIZϛɹ˥ɯ-ʍƎㄥʌɟzſW8∩pdIxɯƆXϛ6ㄣǝM˥ɥ∩x┴su0ƖƎNɾΛMƃh9aℲᄅɔʞyD0c˥Zk┴DʍVMϛɹ˥ɯ-ʍƎㄥʌɟmſJ8∩cqVkɯƆKϛ6ㄣǝZ˥ɥ∩k┴fh0ƖƎAɾΛ

― clemenza, Sunday, April 7, 2019 4:38 AM (four months ago)

Financial backing of television seasons is kinda like the structure of family feud - nothing really matters because the final round is triple bonus anyway

even if Better Call Saul ended up doing nine seasons to get to 88 episodes, AMC's not going to be selling it stripped to local FTA stations 13 years after it launched

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbNCUfL56b8

via the Atlantic

NOBODY (AUGUST 14)
Bob Odenkirk (Better Call Saul) is currently filming a John Wick–esque action film about a man who is sucked into a mob war against a vengeful drug lord? Nobody is written by Derek Kolstad, who scripted every entry in the Wick series; Odenkirk is playing a character called “Hutch Mansell.”

Couldn't possibly be more out of character than the lovable dad in Little Women.

Season 6 ordered and will be final one

Better Call Saul will end with season 6 https://t.co/YtFOICyTqp pic.twitter.com/6o5l7350TR

— Den Of Geek UK (@denofgeek) January 17, 2020

Good to hear, will stop me having morbid concerns about banks maybe snuffing it before they can finish

(Although if they end up spending a lot of time in the gene years he won’t be in it anyway

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We have a trailer:

https://youtu.be/qLbdg4WM8qc

Avert yr eyes if you would prefer to not be SPOILERized re: the BB character making their BCS debut.

Looks great. Have no recollection of where they left off, so I'll have to rewatch the previous season (or at least a few episodes).

content glut has scrambled my ability to remember what was happening in even my favorite few shows

Mike oversaw the guys building a meth bunker and then killed the one German guy that tried to get away
Nacho got co-opted by Gus
Jimmy ran some cellphone scams and managed to get reinstated to the bar

honestly couldn't care less about the Nacho/Gus storyline and wish the show was 90% Jimmy w/occasional Mike content

ha thank you

I'm gonna run with it

And Saul/Kim? Basically finished, right, at the end of S4?

yeah

I think Kim's fate--how she gets written out--is the most intriguing thing for most viewers at this point.

I don't think they were necessarily finished but Kim definitely was starting to have her doubts

I'm not sure they really need to explain why she's "written out" of BB, I don't know exactly what scenes she would've fit into. but yeah it seems pretty likely that relationship won't last.

She had no place in BB, I agree, but it's more that--unless I've forgotten--Saul never even alludes to her; how did he so thoroughly erase her from his life? On the other hand, having just rewatched the entirety of BB, it struck me that Saul is almost a different character; kind of one-dimensionally funny, but not much more beyond that. So there's a disconnect that you probably just take as is, without requiring much explanation re Kim.

she's either going to find out how much of a criminal jimmy and never speak to him again or is going to get killed imo

did jimmy get reinstated? why do I remember it not working out

It didn’t initially but then they staged an event to make jimmy appear more human and sincere re chuck’s death (some kind of benefit and “anonymous” donation iirc?)

aw yeah, I remember that now

high point of the show was that hearing w/ the cellphone slipped in Chuck's pocket, they telegraphed that plot point from S1 but it was still really well done

anyway I really doubt they're gonna kill off Kim, she's really the one and only character in this series that you can root for

is this the last season?

no they announced 6 would be the last

well maybe they can kill her in the next season then

Watching this again from the start. It might be a weird thing but I love the sound in S1, like just background sounds are a little heightened so the non-dialogue parts are really noticeable.

Also it's just a darn good show.

Oh god I forgot about the scam montage in S01E10 so good

If you're really interested in and attentive to sound, keep an eye open for Making Waves, a new documentary about sound design in movies--I posted about it in the documentary thread yesterday.

tempted to re-watch as it's such a delight. But there's a lot of it

xp will do!

it's a minor thing but god bless whoever decided "our intro will be 20 seconds long." after watching Man in the High Castle, Westworld and The Expanse and feeling like i was being subjected to Art someone thought was Incredibly Important via their intros it's a nice change.

finally watching this for the first time.

Jimmy is taking on Sandpiper.

I enjoy all the micro-details that Gilligan and company get right in both this and Breaking Bad. the mundane bits are interesting.

this is a wee bit more dramatic than I expected but Odenkirk is always entertaining.