yes enjoyed these two songs
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link
i think all 6 songs are of similar quality. looking forward to the album
― flopson, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link
yeah all 6 are good imo this band is good
― k3vin k., Sunday, 7 April 2019 03:32 (four years ago) link
I mean I still don’t really ‘get’ “sunflower” but it’s short
― k3vin k., Sunday, 7 April 2019 04:27 (four years ago) link
been listening to these in order on apple music cuz you can play a partial album and i don't see how this album is any less than very good
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 7 April 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link
these songs have improved upon further listening. both absolutely great. my faves so far.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 8 April 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link
Yeah these last two are probably the best of what has been released so far. The past single was pretty bad imho.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 April 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link
tracklist is here at last:
Hold You Now (feat. Danielle Haim)Harmony HallBambinaThis LifeBig BlueHow Long?Unbearably WhiteRich ManMarried in a Gold Rush (feat. Danielle Haim)My MistakeSympathySunflower (feat. Steve Lacy)Flower Moon (feat. Steve Lacy)2021We Belong Together (feat. Danielle Haim)StrangerSpring SnowJerusalem, New York, Berlin
― ufo, Saturday, 27 April 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link
It’s kinda weird that D. Haim is SO present on this album. Is there a specific reason ? Are there other examples of an artist being all over another’s album without it being a duet/collab album ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 27 April 2019 07:01 (four years ago) link
she dates ariel rechtshaid who appears to have co-produced the album
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 April 2019 07:07 (four years ago) link
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-vampire-weekend-ezra-koenig-father-of-the-bride-interview-20190425-story.html
Ezra talks about Danielle's presence on the album a bit in this interview - he was inspired by some country duets and wanted to do a few duets on this album and she seemed like a good fit. her backing vocals on tracks we've heard so far have been really welcome imo
― ufo, Saturday, 27 April 2019 07:12 (four years ago) link
Thanks !Oh yes she’s perfectly fine but I was just wondering since it’s unusual.
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 27 April 2019 07:32 (four years ago) link
― J0rdan S.
Yeah he introduced them one another, he worked on modern vampires and Haim’s days are gone simultaneously.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 27 April 2019 07:40 (four years ago) link
Interesting intw. Lol about the father of his « bride ». I didn’t know !
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 27 April 2019 07:41 (four years ago) link
Are there other examples of an artist being all over another’s album without it being a duet/collab album ?
Aurora's on as many tracks of the new Chemical Brothers album as Danielle is on this one and near as I can tell she's not dating anyone who was involved in the production on that
― You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Saturday, 27 April 2019 07:43 (four years ago) link
Aw ok. I’m not familiar with her and their work since... the 90´s !But it’s a bit different for a band without a singer to have regular « guests ».
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 27 April 2019 07:48 (four years ago) link
The new National album will have lots of female guest vocalists apparently.
― groovypanda, Saturday, 27 April 2019 12:15 (four years ago) link
Why does every profile have to describe in specific detail what the subject is wearing? Who the fuck cares?
Also, what the fuck is this ongoing vague obsession people have with "dad rock?" What the fuck is "dad rock?" Is it just music that won't scare off your dad?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
Lol jic at this pt aren’t you the dad
― Mordy, Sunday, 28 April 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link
Yeah, but there's nothing different about what I listen to! I mean, my own dad liked Sinatra, reggae and '50 rock.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 April 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link
Um, yes, like every other album in the world? The only noteworthy thing is the "feat." prefix, which was likely a managerial decision-- that Danielle and her management negotiated a "feature" for any track she appeared upon. Danielle and Ariel are indeed dating but this isn't like a "oh I'll get my girlfriend on the track" situation, it is a crew and they are a crew
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 28 April 2019 04:32 (four years ago) link
Every other album in the world(?)
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 28 April 2019 05:23 (four years ago) link
No literally every album every made doesn't use anybody else except the primary musician and/or musicianary body and the idea that a person might come in to work on several tracks over the course of the album is completely unheard of like this album is truly seminal in this regard
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 28 April 2019 05:30 (four years ago) link
I mean "Danielle Haim" is featured on THREE TRACKS this is insane I'll have to do a little wikipedia research but I've never heard of an outside musician working on more than two, AT MOST, tracks on an album, like this is completely unprecedented
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 28 April 2019 05:32 (four years ago) link
^^Steve Lacy knew that.
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 28 April 2019 05:47 (four years ago) link
It’s not unprecedented/insane, but also not super common for “rock bands” or whatever. I don’t fault Alex for noting it / raising the question.
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 28 April 2019 05:54 (four years ago) link
(And to address Alex’s question myself: a roughly analogous-seeming historical example is R.E.M.’s Out of Time, on which Kate Pierson appeared on two album tracks and an outtake. That was a zillion years ago, I’m sure there are more recent examples, but none that spring immediately to mind.)
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 28 April 2019 06:19 (four years ago) link
Well D.Haim os « feat » on 3 tracks + others where she’s on vocals backing apparently (« Harmony Hall » for instance). You might know zillions of other albums where a super famous bands has another famous singer on that many tracks without it being a duet/collab album but I don’t. Cool for you !
― AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 28 April 2019 06:55 (four years ago) link
Xpost obviouslyThanks for the R.E.M example !
― AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 28 April 2019 06:56 (four years ago) link
Dre and Snoop?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 28 April 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link
Bowie and iggy
― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Sunday, 28 April 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link
There’s a musician named Emmy Lou Harris, for example
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 28 April 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link
ELH is a good one !
― AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 28 April 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link
Bowie&Iggy too. Dre&Snoop is a bit different imo.
― AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 28 April 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link
Sorry I was snippy yesterday I think I was just reading things wrong
I thought it was being implied that Danielle Haim hangs around her boyfriend's studio in hopes of getting featured on Vampire Weekend albums and it seemed fishy and strange and unprecedented and that her repeat features must be the result of some kind of nepotism
I realize in hindsight that was not what was being typed. I don't think it's uncommon though that a known musician might be featured on several tracks across a single album. The only notable thing about it is the "feat." which I imagine is a product of contemporary contract negotiation... "features" carry some kind of monetary value, some kind of percentages that I'm not myself familiar with the specifics of but I'm sure exist
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 28 April 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link
the "feat" thing is a result of the general "hip-hopification" of pop music
― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Sunday, 28 April 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
i think in this case it’s also a branding mechanism to help emphasize that this is a new era of vampire weekend... having heard the album there doesn’t seem to be much rhyme or reason as to why some songs have a “feat” and some don’t. the first song is almost a duet for instance but on some others — “sunflower” for instance — it mostly seems to be arbitrary. jenny lewis has additional vocals on “2021” but no “feat”. who knows... fgti’s explanation makes sense
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 28 April 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
I have definitely had conversations with musicians who talked about negotiating "featured performer" status but I don't know what it means or why they'd negotiate it, beyond an assumption that there was some kind of percentage involved, and, of course, exposure.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 28 April 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link
Ya it gets you more money and a percentage of publishing.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 28 April 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link
having heard the album
― k3vin k., Monday, 29 April 2019 02:55 (four years ago) link
um surely the "feat D Haim" thing is due to the fact that Haim have a large fan base who might be unaware of Vampire Weekend?
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 29 April 2019 04:35 (four years ago) link
Haim's fan base is closer in size to Jenny Lewis' than Vampire Weekend's. Right?
Which is not to say there aren't Haim fans who might be unaware of VW, I'm just calibrating.
― alpine static, Monday, 29 April 2019 05:59 (four years ago) link
I do not think there are many Haim fans who are not aware of the band Vampire Weekend
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 29 April 2019 06:45 (four years ago) link
I have no idea, I just remember my daughters are aware of Haim (because of the T Swift connection) but not of VW.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 29 April 2019 07:26 (four years ago) link
oh there's an entire half-generation of people who are young enough to know Haim and not VW, I'd say
― alpine static, Monday, 29 April 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link
A friend's 3 year old son listened to nothing but Haim for about a year (on his daily Spotify time slot), I doubt he knows VW ;)
― willem, Monday, 29 April 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link
*alerts the authorities*
― imago, Monday, 29 April 2019 09:50 (four years ago) link
That's believable but still pretty wow for me
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 29 April 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link
It feels entirely logical and unexceptional that Danielle Haim is on some of these songs but as a cross-promotional strategy it leaves a little to be desired given that no one cared about that last Haim album.
― Matt DC, Monday, 29 April 2019 13:05 (four years ago) link
I mean no one feels impelled to do this every time Damon Albarn turns up all over someone else's record.
― Matt DC, Monday, 29 April 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link