US Politics April 2019 Thread: 'I find that pretty hard to believe'

finally the real smoking gun

GOP: "We prefer puppies."

I was saying mueller did not clear trump of obstruction of justice—by barr’s admission—but the trump people are acting like he did.

don't forget every major news network and paper

You gotta boil it down to quick soundbites to Drive Engagement

Risk for Dems here is that the public narrative has already been formed and they look like sore losers in keeping the story going. https://t.co/W2HVGIRcWM

— Katty Kay (@KattyKayBBC) April 4, 2019

lol but guess there's no risk for the Repubs of looking like lying bootlickers jfc

I still don't get the logic behind Mueller publicly disputing the Barr memo if it was wrong.

Dude knows he will be asked to testify and if he's going to speak up, that's when he'd do it. His team is already doing it.

They seem to be merely saying the severity of the report was downplayed w/r/t obstruction and I'm all for seeing what it really said.

Xpost it's the whole "yea but the Republicans are supposed to be bad people, but Democrats like to brag about how woke and moral they are so this is a major scandal for them!" Bullshit

Dems maybe should take a page from the GOP and stop thinking about risk at all

F. Hazel otm.

I don't know anything about Mueller's past life as FBI Director but is there anything to suggest he's not just an institutions-humping Boy Scout like Comey?

In which case he’d hate trump, a porn star humping vulgarian who rode a populist wave denouncing the “deep state”

Risk for Dems here is that the public narrative has already been formed and they look like sore losers in keeping the story going.

additional risk for dems is that if they wait 2 years for the mueller report to come out, while the president obstructs justice in plain view literally MILLIONS OF TIMES, and then appoints an attorney general who is only there because he wrote a memo saying that the president can't obstruct justice, and then does everything he can to delay the mueller report and mitigate the damage, and then Democrats decide to let the whole thing go because they're afraid that Fox News will call them whiners and a bunch of dipshits on the left don't want to talk about the report anymore because they're mad at other people on the left, then that is the dumbest and most cowardly thing in the entire world and the risk factor is therefore 10/10

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The report needs to come out, come what may. Fussing about optics is annoying. It’s not like anyone decent is any good at that anyway.

km otm

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y'all can safely ignore Kitty Kat or whatever her name is from the BBC. She's one of the worst mouthpieces of conventional wisdom on the planet.

like how fucking dumb would it be to have a 2 yr investigation, all along waiting on the lead investigator's final report on it, and then when it's done just allow a Trump stooge to "summarize" it, "nothing to see here, folks", and then move on because of "optics" or some bullshit

lol I googled kitty kat bbc to find that tweet

I don't remember anyone saying stuff like that when Rs re-investigated BENGHAZI over and over because they refused to accept that Hilary wasn't culpable. And this isn't even a 2nd investigation...just y'know, release the actual report from the initial investigation!

mueller did not clear trump of obstruction of justice

as Pareene and the Chapos (and Karl Malone) said, Yam did it on TV.

https://youtu.be/-gS907809p8

i veer between that and:

https://youtu.be/Ec0clERjQ5A

lol

WELCOME BACK JOE! pic.twitter.com/b2NbBSX3sx

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 4, 2019

game recognise game

The difference is trump is fine with people knowing he is a sexual predator.

He doesn’t care. I thought “not caring” lost its power/aura in middle school but

A fine use of Executive Time if you ask me.

False. Our president doesn’t play games.

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday said he plans to give Mexico a “one-year warning” before closing the southern border, retreating on a threat he made last week that he would close the border this week if Mexico didn’t halt all illegal immigration.
“The only thing, frankly, better and less drastic than closing the border is tariff the cars coming in, and I will do it,” Mr. Trump said, speaking to reporters after a meeting with the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council. “I don’t play games.”

xps

I can't wait for my father-in-law to repost this dank-ass meme on Facebook along with something like "HILARIOUS!" or "NAILED HIM!"

hey if your party could attack Kerry for the swift boat stuff whilst nominating a dude who went AWOL, & still win the election...

and at noon there will fall a hush upon the harbor
and they'll ask "who's to die?"
and then you'll hear me order firmly:
ALL

Tariff cars coming in FROM AMERICAN AUTOMAKERS.

so Herman Cain is bound for the Fed, they say

bound in Godfathers pizza crust pieces

at the risk of sounding a bit racist, I've completely mixed up all the dumb ass things Herman Cain has done and said with all the dumb ass things Ben Carson has done and said.

It never fails to amaze me just how many GOP'ers who'd otherwise been laughed out of the party Two-Scoops has welcomed back with open arms.

in fairness, it's not Trump's fault that Steve King wasn't been laughed out of the party a long long time ago.

I think you could veer on the side of safety by asserting, correctly, that many republicans are profoundly ignorant and make public statements like they have some sort of traumatic brain injury.

Cain is really into the number 7, btw.

Tom Delay's waiting by the phone Donnie!

Oops, I meant to say Cain was really into the number 9. Who's the racist now.

Risk for Dems here is that the public narrative has already been formed and they look like sore losers in keeping the story going. https://t.co/W2HVGIRcWM
— Katty Kay (@KattyKayBBC) April 4, 2019

I hate this take so much. Is there really even a single voter out there thinking "man, I think Trump is alright, but if he colluded, I'm out"?? Takes like this seem to forget that Trump is also embroiled in a dozen other scandals, he was just implicated in a felony a couple weeks ago, he's acted extremely guilty the whole time and nearly everything he does turns out to be fraudulent. If he's innocent, so what. There's so much else. And vice-versa, if he's guilty, so what, just one more piece of shit for the right to swallow. Are we really acting like Trump wouldn't accept a quid-pro-quo if he was offered one, or wouldn't try to set one up himself if his brains weren't constantly trying to escape through his ears?

Secondly (as mentioned here), the Republicans literally won a presidential election thanks to years of BENGHAZI! and EMAILS! and, by the way, I don't seem to remember the fawning NYT headline "HILLARY CLINTON EXONERATED OF ALL EMAIL CRIMES". And of course this is nothing like either of those, how braindead do you have to be to just accept a 4-page summary of a 300-page report written quickly by Trump's hand-picked stooge and think, "wow, that's enough for me!!", as though Trump didn't clearly admit to obstruction of justice on live television (and then 100 more times on Twitter), as though Trump's son didn't *literally* leak an email where he tried to set up a quid pro quo but was too stupid to actually pull it off. Did the Barr thing swing the polls at *all*???

mueller has proven that he surrounded himself with criminals. his lawyer was a criminal. his campaign manager. etc. this isn't hard

I never understood why mueller hired a campaign manager, but I was especially shocked when he proved that he was a criminal. But hey he’s probably playing the long game

i can see now that my subconscious avoidance of using trump's name has its downsides in the ol' comprehensibility department

lol

as though Trump didn't clearly admit to obstruction of justice on live television (and then 100 more times on Twitter), as though Trump's son didn't *literally* leak an email where he tried to set up a quid pro quo but was too stupid to actually pull it off.

way too much smoke everywhere from actual, enormous gun that is smoking to locate “smoking gun”

I heard a very core bland resistance-style discussion on kushner, so hmm i doubt uncited sourcing, but i dunno he seems v v v bad not good.

Who has done reliable work on kushner, sauds, qatar and netanyahu? because the allegations were super involved, and seemed way unlikely given what i take for trust levels in that ME space. like actual trump shit, it seems impossible to get away with.

Enjoyed teh Trumpcast on Kushner taht I listened to this afternoon. Came out over the last couple of days i think.
ties in with the book Kushner inc which i'll probably now discover means it isn't worth it .
But interview sounded good at the time. & Kushner sounds like a total scumbag who should have never been allowed anywhere near the Whitehouse. & Ivanka sonds like they're a finely matched couple.

Kushner should fall face first into a woodchipper on national TV.