US Politics April 2019 Thread: 'I find that pretty hard to believe'

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Mueller's silence speaks volumes but liberals really really don't wanna hear it, man some of y'all are really grasping at straws here

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link

as Alfred has repeatedly noted, the remedy is political not legal

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2019 14:51 (five years ago) link

Which is why Congress will get it/see it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 April 2019 14:51 (five years ago) link

Unless Barr decides to redact everything that could impugn a oerson who isn’t going to be prosecuted....

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 14:52 (five years ago) link

Even in the barr report it says there is a case against trump thats presented—and that theoretically could be prosecuted—just that mueller isn’t recommending it. Seems weird

― Trϵϵship, Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:49 AM

There is no Barr Report! It's a letter.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 April 2019 14:53 (five years ago) link

The mueller team said they have created summaries that redact all national security things—but barr wasn’t satisifed with just redacting that

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 14:53 (five years ago) link

no offense, but this is the trap into which the media fell early last week (and, to my surprise, have mostly crawled out of).

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 April 2019 14:54 (five years ago) link

Fine. The Barr flash fiction

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 14:54 (five years ago) link

Better.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 April 2019 14:54 (five years ago) link

The question I keep asking myself is: why hasn't Mueller arrested Trump yet and locked him in the makeshift jail cell he built in his back yard? Why waste all that time learning how to use an oxyacetylene torch if you're never even going to make a caged ape of the standing president?

as Alfred has repeatedly noted, the remedy is political not legal

― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:51 AM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these are not mutually exclusive, though! Exposing the administration's transgressions by legal avenues can have huge political impact.

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link

Agreed.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:30 (five years ago) link

at the very least it give whatever 2020 candidate a bunch of talking points to go after him with if they are so inclined

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link

and acetylene torches for everyone

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link

Exposing the administration's transgressions by legal avenues can have huge political impact.

― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII)

good point and I agree, just tired of people acting like there's some hidden smoking gun in there

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link

I wasn’t saying that. I was saying mueller did not clear trump of obstruction of justice—by barr’s admission—but the trump people are acting like he did. So it would be good for congress at least to see what it actually says.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link

Also robert mueller is in one of my facebook group chats Iand he told me his report includes footage of trump drowning kittens.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:10 (five years ago) link

ok lol

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link

finally the real smoking gun

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link

GOP: "We prefer puppies."

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link

I was saying mueller did not clear trump of obstruction of justice—by barr’s admission—but the trump people are acting like he did.

don't forget every major news network and paper

frogbs, Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

You gotta boil it down to quick soundbites to Drive Engagement

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link

Risk for Dems here is that the public narrative has already been formed and they look like sore losers in keeping the story going. https://t.co/W2HVGIRcWM

— Katty Kay (@KattyKayBBC) April 4, 2019

lol but guess there's no risk for the Repubs of looking like lying bootlickers jfc

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link

I still don't get the logic behind Mueller publicly disputing the Barr memo if it was wrong.

Dude knows he will be asked to testify and if he's going to speak up, that's when he'd do it. His team is already doing it.

They seem to be merely saying the severity of the report was downplayed w/r/t obstruction and I'm all for seeing what it really said.

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link

Xpost it's the whole "yea but the Republicans are supposed to be bad people, but Democrats like to brag about how woke and moral they are so this is a major scandal for them!" Bullshit

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link

Dems maybe should take a page from the GOP and stop thinking about risk at all

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link

F. Hazel otm.

I don't know anything about Mueller's past life as FBI Director but is there anything to suggest he's not just an institutions-humping Boy Scout like Comey?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link

In which case he’d hate trump, a porn star humping vulgarian who rode a populist wave denouncing the “deep state”

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link

Risk for Dems here is that the public narrative has already been formed and they look like sore losers in keeping the story going.

additional risk for dems is that if they wait 2 years for the mueller report to come out, while the president obstructs justice in plain view literally MILLIONS OF TIMES, and then appoints an attorney general who is only there because he wrote a memo saying that the president can't obstruct justice, and then does everything he can to delay the mueller report and mitigate the damage, and then Democrats decide to let the whole thing go because they're afraid that Fox News will call them whiners and a bunch of dipshits on the left don't want to talk about the report anymore because they're mad at other people on the left, then that is the dumbest and most cowardly thing in the entire world and the risk factor is therefore 10/10

Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link

^

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link

The report needs to come out, come what may. Fussing about optics is annoying. It’s not like anyone decent is any good at that anyway.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link

km otm

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

^

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link

y'all can safely ignore Kitty Kat or whatever her name is from the BBC. She's one of the worst mouthpieces of conventional wisdom on the planet.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link

like how fucking dumb would it be to have a 2 yr investigation, all along waiting on the lead investigator's final report on it, and then when it's done just allow a Trump stooge to "summarize" it, "nothing to see here, folks", and then move on because of "optics" or some bullshit

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link

lol I googled kitty kat bbc to find that tweet

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link

I don't remember anyone saying stuff like that when Rs re-investigated BENGHAZI over and over because they refused to accept that Hilary wasn't culpable. And this isn't even a 2nd investigation...just y'know, release the actual report from the initial investigation!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link

mueller did not clear trump of obstruction of justice

as Pareene and the Chapos (and Karl Malone) said, Yam did it on TV.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

https://youtu.be/-gS907809p8

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link

i veer between that and:

https://youtu.be/Ec0clERjQ5A

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link

lol

WELCOME BACK JOE! pic.twitter.com/b2NbBSX3sx

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 4, 2019

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

game recognise game

a photographer, satanist and ukip voter (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link

The difference is trump is fine with people knowing he is a sexual predator.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:01 (five years ago) link

He doesn’t care. I thought “not caring” lost its power/aura in middle school but

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link

A fine use of Executive Time if you ask me.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link

False. Our president doesn’t play games.

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday said he plans to give Mexico a “one-year warning” before closing the southern border, retreating on a threat he made last week that he would close the border this week if Mexico didn’t halt all illegal immigration.
“The only thing, frankly, better and less drastic than closing the border is tariff the cars coming in, and I will do it,” Mr. Trump said, speaking to reporters after a meeting with the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council. “I don’t play games.”

Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

xps

Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

I can't wait for my father-in-law to repost this dank-ass meme on Facebook along with something like "HILARIOUS!" or "NAILED HIM!"

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link

hey if your party could attack Kerry for the swift boat stuff whilst nominating a dude who went AWOL, & still win the election...

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link


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