I dare you to anticipate Joaquin Phoenix in Todd Phillips's JOKER (now with something that may or may not be a SPOILER)

Kind of a weird revival of Godspell, but ok.

Kinda hoping Phoenix's character is driven to madness by watching Eddie Murphy's Delirious on tv and realizing all he knows are vaudeville jokes

so why exactly is DC making movies outside the DC Extended universe featuring characters that are in its extended universe.

are they going to see how it does and then decide whether to fire Leto as the Joker in the actual EU? cos I think that's a decision that can already be made.

I came upon a subway train surrounded by Jokers during the shoot

Expecting Leto Nicholson Gorshin cameos at the end of this

Why does DC have a popular Flash TV show and then make a Justice League movie featuring someone completely different as the Flash, why does DC make 80% of the decisions it makes? My unsubstantiated guess is 'rampant late-stage syphilis' but who can say, really.

Most of their decisions can be attributed to the fundamental po’ faced absurdity DC specializes in.

the DCEU has been unofficially scrapped

they're moving forward with tonally varied standalone movies (this, Shazam, Matt Reeves' Batman solo pic) while retaining some of the things that people liked - Gal Gadot, Margot Robbie, probably Momoa too now I guess

so why exactly is DC making movies outside the DC Extended universe featuring characters that are in its extended universe.

Teen Titans GO! To The Movies and The Lego Batman Movie are the only worthwhile DC-related movies in the last quarter-century

counts back a quarter fucking century, loses track of the point while realising that he can now do so, fuck this

I have some uh intel on the finer points of this movie's plot and it sounds very very bad.

and i was so hyped :(

Posted elsewhere, here's director Todd Phillips discussing his approach to this popular character with almost eighty years of history from which to draw:

We didn’t follow anything from the comic books, which people are gonna be mad about. We just wrote our own version of where a guy like Joker might come from. That’s what was interesting to me. We’re not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker. It’s about this man.

it's about, like... this man

Outrageous to just ignore the history of the jokester

What if you adapted The Wonderful Wizard of Oz into a film and just made it a movie about one of the Washington Wizards learning to play basketball in Australia, people would like that, right?

okay let's map out the process here:

1) take one of the most recognisable characters in pop culture, who has had numerous widely-acclaimed screen translations already
2) prevent yourself from telling any stories about him doing any of the supervillainous stuff he's known for
3) don't include any of his supporting cast or anyone else from the wider creative universe he functions in
4) write a story about his origins which is entirely separate from any of the multiple origins he's been given so far
5) ???
6) profit

I'm down with this approach, although I have little interest in DC cannon

that dc cannon in full

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fe%2Fe0%2FLoosecannondcu0.jpg&f=1

xpost And, well, that's kinda the rub. The question then becomes: who the fuck is this for?

Anyone who might theoretically be interested in some wild take on a DC character with no reverence to the subject matter probably wouldn't be interested in reality because it's still a DC movie.

it doesn't even look wild, though! it's just reheated taxi driver!

Also worth noting that...they just did this a few years ago ('this' being a cinematic presentation of the Joker which didn't resemble the character in any meaningful way) and the reaction was a resounding 'nope'.

So it's more of a story about the man behind the grease paint.

It's rare that you get enough heads up on a car crash that you're actually able to set up some lawnchairs on the sidewalk, maybe get some corn poppin'. It's a nice change of pace.

'this' being a cinematic presentation of the Joker which didn't resemble the character in any meaningful way

tbf there's not really anything in the trailer which suggests this won't meaningfully resemble a plausible origin story for a character who's had numerous origin stories, it's just... who gives a shit? his origins are the least interesting thing about him ffs

What I want to see is the Joker's infancy. When did he learn to crawl? What was his favorite flavor of baby food? Did he wear disposable or cloth diapers?

one things for sure

those nappies were twisted

He was born 35 years old

they just did this a few years ago

I mean,,,,,,, yeah

Someday we’re gonna get the Joker/John Wayne Gacy blend we deserve.

I’m perversely interested in this, as a fan of movies about Joaquin Phoenix’s gorgeous catastrophe of a face

― moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:30 AM (three months ago) bookmarkflaglink

This remains the case. The definitive version of the Joker is from B:TAS anyway, I don't care if this movie doesn't really have anything to do with the famous clown we all love. Pure cinema.

Phoenix would be the reason to see this yeah. I didn’t clock that Philips was the director, I don’t like his work at all iirc

TBF my dour preconceptions of this film wrt Phillips at the helm have been based upon the bulk of his career but there's always a slim chance that we'll be gifted with something that hearkens back to his Hated roots.

Looking at his filmography I don’t mind some of his earlier comedies, i was thinking particularly of war dogs which I absolutely hated

Someday we’re gonna get the Joker/John Wayne Gacy blend we deserve.

Joker vs. Gacy

i'd forgotten phillips made hated, this can all be redeemed if phoenix shits on the stage of a comedy club while in full joker makeup

We’re gonna see the Joker’s dick

— pixelatedboat aka “mr tweets” (@pixelatedboat) July 11, 2018

joker’s poker

lmbo

just groaned aloud at the discovery that the Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie did not come and go like 2 years ago and in fact hasn't even been released yet

— Albert Burneko (@AlbertBurneko) August 23, 2019

If the spoilers that appear downthread here are accurate (and tbh they *seem* right) I can absolutely guarantee this movie will be cited in mass shooter manifestos over the next few years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/bwh1gu/joker_spoilers/

It all connects. Joaquin. Wakeen. Walking. We do that with legs.

Legs. We know how to use them. ZZ Top. Beards.

Beards signify wisdom. Wise. Why's?

Why....is?

What spoilers could possibly exist?

"The Joker kills people, eventually"?

The specific formulation described would flatter the sensibilities of the kind of incel chuds who feel that the weight of the world compels them to shoot up movie theaters and schools.

the honkler meme has been going for a while now so i’m kinda amazed we’re not already inundated with joaquin-faced honklers

jokestrap

Très Pupkin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=144&v=zAGVQLHvwOY

Whoops - here's the right link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAGVQLHvwOY

just... why

― a photographer, satanist and ukip voter (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 13:30 (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

I've had a sudden brilliant brainstorm: thinking of existing movies that, with no alterations except the digital superimposition of Joker makeup onto the face of a/the main character, would make for Joker movies I'd rather see.

First candidate: Heidecker in The Comedy

i laughed real hard at the funny parts and i feel like nobody focuses on those in their thinkpieces

― Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1

There aren't any funny parts to focus on.

The guy walked into a door that was kinda funny

The hospital clown bit was meant to be funny but didn’t really land for me iirc

I think there’s some unintentional comedy in how oppressive and tryhard and stupid this is most of the time. I’m with dmac & co tho this was passable enough for a serious funny papers movie and the takefest that accompanied it was far worse

I dare you to anticipate …

The Joker - Folie à Deux

Oh good god pic.twitter.com/oQI50iZ8ZI

— better call joe bro (@JosephBarnhurst) June 7, 2022

in the sequel, the Joker, now released from jail early due to appeal, is the host of a popular TV program, but has been "cancelled" for making disparaging remarks about women. The Joker seeks to "cancel" Gotham.

Electric Juggalo

We've got to
See
That
Bro
Electric Juggalo
And then dance down a staircase