ok my ears aren't totally nuts
I definitely get not wanting classical training, especially for a punk band.Stefan: Yeah, I mean, Zack and Steve and Nestor all really understand music theory and they’re incredible musicians, and I’d say that understanding of music theory hasn’t hurt them creatively. But, for me, every time I’ve tried to label things with the guitar, like, “this is this chord and this is the theory behind why these chords work together” or whatever, it’s really just causing more agony than anything. I’m sure Zack’s had a different experience because he’s a classically fantastic musician, as well as a great punk musician.Zack: I don’t know about that, but yeah it’s definitely helped because Stefan has a kind of unorthodox approach to writing songs — by that I mean writing melodically without paying super close to attention to how even the bars are or how rhythmically it fits together — so he somehow accidentally falls into these really interesting time signatures, and I guess just taking some lessons and being a nerd about music and having this so-called training has helped me a lot in adapting to that and not trying to squeeze the song into a 4/4 box, which I think we’ve accomplished really well. And at the same time, our guitar player Steve is trained, so to speak. He went to school for jazz guitar, but he sort of presents his own version of what punk is. To me — it’s a broader interpretation — but, in the grander sense, punk is sort of about going against what’s normal, whether that means you’re a great guitar player and you prefer to do something weird, or you’re expressing yourself against all odds and against a lack of training, I think those both can be punk.
Stefan: Yeah, I mean, Zack and Steve and Nestor all really understand music theory and they’re incredible musicians, and I’d say that understanding of music theory hasn’t hurt them creatively. But, for me, every time I’ve tried to label things with the guitar, like, “this is this chord and this is the theory behind why these chords work together” or whatever, it’s really just causing more agony than anything. I’m sure Zack’s had a different experience because he’s a classically fantastic musician, as well as a great punk musician.
Zack: I don’t know about that, but yeah it’s definitely helped because Stefan has a kind of unorthodox approach to writing songs — by that I mean writing melodically without paying super close to attention to how even the bars are or how rhythmically it fits together — so he somehow accidentally falls into these really interesting time signatures, and I guess just taking some lessons and being a nerd about music and having this so-called training has helped me a lot in adapting to that and not trying to squeeze the song into a 4/4 box, which I think we’ve accomplished really well. And at the same time, our guitar player Steve is trained, so to speak. He went to school for jazz guitar, but he sort of presents his own version of what punk is. To me — it’s a broader interpretation — but, in the grander sense, punk is sort of about going against what’s normal, whether that means you’re a great guitar player and you prefer to do something weird, or you’re expressing yourself against all odds and against a lack of training, I think those both can be punk.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 3 April 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link
That's such a nice excerpt to help explain their weird flavour of (dis)synchrony. Oh I love the new album so much! Through its darknesses it's still exhilaratingly fun. I'm seeing them on Wednesday - five days to learn all the lyrics!
― alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Friday, 5 April 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
yeah everything finally clicks just right. I liked the singles but some of the album tracks ("See You At Your Funeral") are even catchier and the lil curveballs ("Full Blown Meltdown" could pull a fake ID and sneak onto an ETID album) all work splendidly
― Simon H., Saturday, 6 April 2019 06:18 (four years ago) link
pup album is good as hell
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 April 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
yes
― imago, Saturday, 6 April 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
This PUP gig was the apotheosis of London fans having been starved for so many months... The entire crowd was a hysterical mosh pit and PUP were deeply crowd pleasing and charming. They touted a London charity for assisting disadvantaged children into music schools that literally everyone gave money to. A small token, but the kind of offering that should be more foregrounded in gigs in general. Also they played an extra-long set to be nice. My voice is totally shredded.
― alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link
that sounds awesome. I'm so glad they're having a moment, they seem like genuine folks
idk if this new J Robbins single quite belongs here but it's real nice!
https://youtu.be/IlsReo4bXsU
― Simon H., Thursday, 11 April 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link
into the new woahnows albumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjwfugTA0Hk
― devvvine, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link
I saw them last night and they humoured my drunk rambling afterwards. They were great! Supporting Martha who were so exuberant and lovely.
― alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link
ah awesome, was there as well!
― devvvine, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link
No way! I didn’t know you were a London poster. Will say hi next time if we are at the same gig. :)
― alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link
Wait a second, the Martha album's been out for two weeks already?
― jmm, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
yeah! it's good!
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
just bought foxing tickets for the end of the month -- feeling pretty excited :D
the PUP show is either the next day or the day before but it's sold out :(
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
somehow only just learned PUP is an acronym
― Simon H., Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
Lol yeah I had that same realisation.
Aaw Mordy, I’m sure they’ll do some more dates at some point. They said they’ve just started touring for two years or something crazy.
― alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link
yeah i think they're actually coming back to philly later in the year
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
oh wow that Martha record *is* great, on the jangle/twee end of the emo spectrum and so, so charming
also want to plug the new Mannequin Pussy single which is fucking great
― Simon H., Wednesday, 24 April 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo_p3GwoHXI
new get up kids album is shaping up to be a banger
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
Opening sounds like Reggie tbh
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:12 (four years ago) link
it pains me that Drug Church are playing here but only as fourth-billed(!) on the Movements gig. I'm listening to their album now and there's nothing special about it.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
new Bad Books album, two tracks out
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/bad-books-kevin-devine-manchester-orchestra-announce-lp-share-2-songs/
― Simon H., Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
congratulations to the get up kids for releasing an incredible album in 2019
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
agreed. played through once so far and have been loving it. I still think I like the Radar State album a bit more
― gman59, Friday, 10 May 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
Seeing Spanish Love Songs tonight! I had forgotten how great their album from last year is.
― alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Saturday, 11 May 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link
The first support - Save Face - were excellent. Like so energetic and positive. Checking out their 2018 album now and it holds up.
The Radar State album has grown to be one of my favourites this year, but I am yet to hear new Get Up Kids. Waiting for a sunny day.
― alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Sunday, 12 May 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link
new oso oso record in august
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9KJ6etywU8
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
new Appleseed Cast in June!!
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/the-appleseed-cast-releasing-first-album-in-6-years-listen-to-time-the-destroyer/
― Simon H., Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
hell yes
― easy ball shooter (Spottie), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link
they were amazing opening up for mewithoutyou and cursive
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
I'm so mad that tour didn't come here
― Simon H., Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
dude the moment @ 2:35ish of that Oso Oso song gave me chills
― alpine static, Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
oh they played that new appleseed cast song during their set and it was a huge highlight. i love it. there's definitely going to be a song on the record that splits the difference between post-hardcore and motorik
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
immense tune. the Oso Oso is nice as well.
― Simon H., Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
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― I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link
from Rolling Metal:
does this go here or emo threadhttps://www.adultswim.com/music/singles-2018/42― alpine static, Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:30 AM (seven minutes ago)yes― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:31 AM (six minutes ago)haha― alpine static, Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:38 AM (0 seconds ago)
https://www.adultswim.com/music/singles-2018/42
― alpine static, Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:30 AM (seven minutes ago)
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:31 AM (six minutes ago)
haha
― alpine static, Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:38 AM (0 seconds ago)
― alpine static, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTj6_2HZoaE
i have no idea if pronoun fit in this thread but they are definitely me-core, imagine a bunch of synth poppy jimmy eat world songs
this record was done a sincere disservice by its pf*rk review
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEz23G0oaTI
oh wow this is the best record ever
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link
new Bad Books is out and, of course, lovely. a lot of textures in common with the last Manchester Orchestra (to the extent that I'm wondering if they shared a producer)
― Simon H., Saturday, 15 June 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
hey uh who here likes prog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxzSGMYogow
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 17 June 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
brad if you like this you really have to hear that last Caligula's Horse record
― Simon H., Tuesday, 18 June 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link
lots to like about the Remo Drive album
https://remodrive.bandcamp.com/album/natural-everyday-degradation
― Simon H., Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link
kudos to p4k. New Mannequin Pussy indeed sounds very good!
― Evan, Monday, 24 June 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link
their last album was sick and "Drunk II" is fantastic. looking forward to this
― Simon H., Monday, 24 June 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
soundcloud compression is brutal but this is the new appleseed cast track that blew my mind when i saw them: https://soundcloud.com/graveface/the-appleseed-cast-the-journey
motorik emo (motoremo?) is here
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
oh jeez obviously "emotorik" is a thousand times better
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcaPhoTzKS4
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 28 June 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
oh that Mannequin Pussy album really really rules
― ufo, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
agreed
― Number None, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
I am obsessed with this Girl Friday song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2j4jD2kDA0
― Simon H., Wednesday, 3 July 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link