the alt-right

There's nothing wrong with making men horny, I do it all the time.

― Frederik B, Monday, April 1, 2019 8:28 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love this so much

i didn't catch it before when i swooped in to scold everyone

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/white-power-symbol-found-after-fire-destroys-social-justice-center-n990271

checking out a later period Steven Stapleton record on Youtube and hey look there's fawning videos about how Peterson and Shapiro DESTROY their critics right there in the recommendations for no fucking reason at all

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-04-02/youtube-executives-ignored-warnings-letting-toxic-videos-run-rampant

I use youtube exclusively for watching footage of vintage jazz performances on dutch TV and I get the exact same thing. I don't even know who the fuck Peterson is, and I barely know Shapiro except to know that they're both pricks.

i live in hope that at some point somebody will enforce some accountability on google for their extremely broken site. it's a farfetched hope, but still important to have.

i guess i might theoretically at some point quit using youtube the way i quit using facebook, but i don't see it happening anytime soon. it's unlikely enough that i am unwilling to even pretend it's a practical option.

when i go to youtube logged out in a private browsing window the #1 thing it invariably suggests i might enjoy is videos of black men receiving large prison sentences

obama was a v handsome man but u didn't see ppl continually claiming that he was hated bc they just found him too sexy + it confused them (which is such a fucking stupid claim on its face

― Mordy, Monday, April 1, 2019 1:19 PM (four days ago

4 years ago I would have thought it was crazy, but now the idea of lots of right wing straight white men finding him kinda sexy and being infuriated about that doesn't seem so far fetched. Oftentimes in right wing paranoid sex fantasies about wives being stolen, the man is the centre of obsessively particular attention, the woman matters a lot less.

Take advice from someone who has endless morbid curiousity, never type into a search engine Rule 34 followed by Trump, Obama or Nicki Minaj.

there was a right-wing thing that obama was a gay sex worker and michelle obama was a trans woman so i think we can assume that a lot of republicans are psychosexual nightmares

See also: I believe dominatrixes that look like stereotypical "SJWs" are popular because some men find them scary.

Also, just read Robert E. Howard's story "The Hyena" last week. Full of racist/masochist fantasy.

I guess he needed an outlet from his usual work

"Cannibal!" I ejaculated, involuntarily.

It's possibly more pronounced in "the Hyena" than anything else. I haven't read all his stories (just scratched the surface really) but some REH scholar listed a bunch of his sorta s&m stories and this one stood out.

4 years ago I would have thought it was crazy, but now the idea of lots of right wing straight white men finding him kinda sexy and being infuriated about that doesn't seem so far fetched. Oftentimes in right wing paranoid sex fantasies about wives being stolen, the man is the centre of obsessively particular attention, the woman matters a lot less.

― Robert Adam Gilmour

i have no idea which paranoid right-wingers are queer (though i have my suspicions about milo)

but there is, for the record, a long historical tradition of not considering women to be people

in DC

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/White-Nationalists-Interrupt-Author-Chant-This-Land-Is-Our-Land-at-Politics-and-Prose-509170021.html

New Zealand: alt right terrorist attacks house of worship of religious minority -- country immediately changes gun laws.

USA: alt right terrorist attacks house of worship of religious minority -- meh.

B-b-but maybe this time Trump will actually backpedal on his equivocating over alt right terrorism. Or was it really just about a statue all along?

I think i was a bit set off by the Guardian's fawning interview with Bret Easton Ellis:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/28/bret-easton-ellis-millennials-white-interview

Stfu old dude, your ideas are 30 years out of date. "I TRIGGER millennials. Out there sticking it to the man. Or the woman of color. Whatever, they're TRIGGERED."

nice gammon reference though:

His manner is warm, and his face – pinker and heavier now than at the height of his literary fame, and topped with hair that is silver – bears a near-permanent smile.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2019/04/28/ignore-the-poway-synagogue-shooters-manifesto-pay-attention-to-8chans-pol-board/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosiegray/katie-mchugh

Most interesting for the view into the conservative media pipeline

It's fascinating. But I'm struggling to feel any sympathy for her, not that I should and not that the piece really asks us to.

I not only struggle with sympathy for people like her, but I honestly struggle with the idea that there should even be any sympathy, or redemption, rehabilitation or forgiveness.

It sounds like she's shafted her chances of getting much meaningful work for the moment. As with that ex-Nazi poet, if you don't believe in redemption then there's something seriously fucking wrong with you

...not that she's redeemed yet - for a start, it's unclear what her current political beliefs actually are

The fact that she burned her "journalism" career to the ground is an unambiguously good thing, and it's just a shame she didn't take more people down with her.

The one thing I know is that it's not up to me, or any other white person, to decide whether or not a racist or a nazi has redeemed themselves.

Not quite.

of course not, it's a committee decision

What do we mean by 'redeemed'? Is this different from forgiveness? I do think she should take accountability and forgive herself, but I'm not sure how anyone is in a position to proclaim redemption.

would you tell the prodigal son to get to fuck, is what this boils down to

https://www.history.com/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_faces:center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_768/MTU3ODc5MDgzNzUxNjQ2OTQz/diorite-stela-with-the-code-of-hammurabi-2.jpg

would you tell the prodigal son to get to fuck, is what this boils down to

If he showed up wearing a swastika armband? Yeah.

But the point is, he has renounced the armband

Perhaps he was just getting it cleaned because it had egg on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKvuNBssXG8

Which article did you read? She hasn't renounced anything - she's just realized open racism isn't the rocket ride to riches and glory she thought it was. At no point does she say that her core beliefs have changed. She's still a right-wing hack, just one no one will hire because she was photographed standing next to literal Nazis.

Oh, the fun starts at about 6:45

...not that she's redeemed yet - for a start, it's unclear what her current political beliefs actually are

― imago, Thursday, 2 May 2019 12:22 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's unclear what her current political beliefs actually are

this was what mattered to me, to the extent that anything about her did. as she never breathed a word of them or even really described what she thought was wrong w her old ones i suspect she's gone back to being a "conservative" and pretending the rest of it came out of nowhere. as milo said tho the view into the mechanism was interesting

as for forgiveness and redemption, one is a thing you can only decide yourself whether to offer or not and the other is screenwriting jargon

Wake me when one of these bigots does their 180 and reforms when they’re on the ascent or at their career peak or haven’t suffered repercussions.

^^^

Let the cancelled bury the cancelled.

hate to get biblical again but saul needed the blinding light to give him that little kick

anyway all of this is very utopian and in all probability this person is still horrible. but the principle should be that forgiveness is always possible imo - with the possibility varying according to the crime

I want to add that this is “better” than if she remained a rabid alt-righter and it’s cool she shared emails, but this is also predictable and she wasn’t brainwashed and a lot of it feels like getting back at her old bosses, albeit with the juicy context that these old bosses are right wing extremists.

The son of the Strmfrnt guy comes close to some sort of redemption, cutting ties with his whole family, renouncing his former racist ideology, working iirc to pull people out of that world. People who sort of say sorry after they've been fired and blacklisted, fuck them until they put their money where their mouth is. Forgiveness is always possible, but it's not necessary.

imago otm

That McHugh piece...I am confused by the amount of pics of her. And the first big close up where you can't help but notice a wig? and the eyebrows? but both go unmentioned in the piece even though it talks about her appearance a lot. It's a weird choice.