what happened to those camel toe chicks?
― i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
make is clap is also stuck in my head thx
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
One of them is in Holy Hail, otherwise idk xpost
― CHUCK KLOSTERFOCK (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't hate 'Just Dance' but I never hum it, is all I'm saying and I hum stupid-ass songs from every decade I've been alive (and quite a few from ones even before that).
― Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I basically don't know anyone who is thumbs-upping Lady GaGa while hating on Britney et al. I mean, I'd be surprised to find a hipster who likes "Just Dance" but can't stand "Toxic."
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I would concur with jaymc but then this occurred to me:
― Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
I imagine you know a few online, michael
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess the difference would be that Britney is almost always appreciated ironically by hipsters, whereas Gaga seems to be sincerely accepted with little reservation (yes, that's a lot of generalizations). This, despite the fact that the actual style of their music is nearly identical.
― makeitpop, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link
that is completely wrong
― pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
makeitstop
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link
makeitso
― casual racism fridays (bug), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link
lady gaga/star trek TNG fanfic to thread!
― i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Most of the really big boosts of Lady Gaga I've seen have come from critics who both like chart-pop and like the idea of a performer with a story, a self-determined visual aesthetic, a backstory, a soundbite-friendly interview style etc.
These aren't Geir-people (they still listen to Britney regardless) but the "she's the new Madonna" claim doeshave traction for these types.
They're both gay and straight. My tl;dr post about vacuous pop didn't really go into why people would like gaga (or why gay people would) but I would say a specifically or self-consciously "gay" appreciation of Lady Gaga would also include an in-built appreciation for her ridiculousness - the fashion shoots and photographs that go beyond wacky and into disastrous territory, the ludicrousness of her claims for herself, the way her music can seem generic and idiosyncratic at the same time etc. etc.
Whereas the not-specifically-gay version would usually play down the appreciation-of-failure side of things.
Having said that, I don't think her commercial success is founded on either types of people.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
no her commercial success is founded on the fact that she was the first woman to successfully plant her flag at the top of Mount Hipster, apparently
― CHUCK KLOSTERFOCK (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
pass was only free cause she grifted it
― Lamp, Thursday, 11 June 2009 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link
The gays are okay with her. It's enough.
Why does ilx hate her so? Is she really overexposed in places that aren't Australia? Because here she can be one of the handful of songs occasionally played on commercial radio that you don't mind.
― Popture, Thursday, 11 June 2009 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link
she's basically an art school kid that made it big doing her own thing and comes off as such which is why that crowd goes for it.whether or not you like her it's stupid to make the aguilera / spears comparison
or use "hipsters" in 2009
but whatever.
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is totally wrong i think. she doesnt really have those fans except for that small niche of ppl already into chart pop. her main fanbase is, & i dont mean this in a particularly condescending way although it might sound like i do, women who go clubbing & liked sex & the city a whole lot. its getting young yuppie love, basically, at least from the ladies. its popular shit. i dont really know any hip trendy folks who are into it except as, like, an ironic thing
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 11 June 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link
like, i dont think anyone is convinced by her 'art school' thing -- i dont think you're supposed to be convinced by it?? i think her fans see it as like, her 'hobby' or as an affect, not as an identity
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 11 June 2009 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link
its like, ironic art school
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 11 June 2009 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link
makeitpop is kbp, right?
― caek, Thursday, 11 June 2009 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link
we r all kbp now
― THE BATHYPELAGIC ZONE (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link
this guy
― makeitstop (k3vin k.), Thursday, 11 June 2009 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link
so i was in the record store today and started reading abt her in rolling stone (i am genuinely interested because whatever is causing her popularity it ain't the songs). got as far as the part about her dropping out of nyu and living alone in manhattan, where she would get coke delivered and then do her hair in makeup in a mirror for hours at a time.
― DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Thursday, 11 June 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link
*hair AND makeup
― DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Thursday, 11 June 2009 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i find her interesting because she's become famous without being particularly good looking. until she arrived, the pop world was pretty straightforward in terms of the importance placed upon one's looks. it doesn't seem to matter with her, which i guess is either a marketing triumph, or a testament to her abilities as a performer, or a bit of both, i suppose.
― borntohula, Thursday, 11 June 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link
she's basically an art school kid that made it big doing her own thing and comes off as such which is why that crowd goes for it.whether or not you like her it's stupid to make the aguilera / spears comparisonor use "hipsters" in 2009but whatever.― fauxmarc, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkthis is totally wrong i think. she doesnt really have those fans except for that small niche of ppl already into chart pop. her main fanbase is, & i dont mean this in a particularly condescending way although it might sound like i do, women who go clubbing & liked sex & the city a whole lot. its getting young yuppie love, basically, at least from the ladies. its popular shit. i dont really know any hip trendy folks who are into it except as, like, an ironic thing― autogucci cru (deej), jueves 11 de junio de 2009 2:42 (2 hours ago)
this is totally wrong i think. she doesnt really have those fans except for that small niche of ppl already into chart pop. her main fanbase is, & i dont mean this in a particularly condescending way although it might sound like i do, women who go clubbing & liked sex & the city a whole lot. its getting young yuppie love, basically, at least from the ladies. its popular shit. i dont really know any hip trendy folks who are into it except as, like, an ironic thing― autogucci cru (deej), jueves 11 de junio de 2009 2:42 (2 hours ago)
I think deej is otm here, at least in my hometown people only listen to her because they play her at clubs. So it's the sort of shit I've heard my friends play while dressing up before going to the club. I haven't met noone that really knows her backstory or owns her record. I feel truly sorry for you peeps who apparently seem to deal with listening to her music in a daily basis and in different environments.
― Moka, Thursday, 11 June 2009 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
― borntohula, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:55 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
you should qualify whether you mean importance placed on looks specifically in regard to female pop stars. or i'm just going to assume you think T-Pain is dreamy.
― some dude, Thursday, 11 June 2009 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link
the funny thing about LG isn't so much that she's terrible-looking as that she tries for these ridiculous fashion statements that generally only really gorgeous women can get away with
― some dude, Thursday, 11 June 2009 04:32 (fourteen years ago) link
i find her interesting because she's become famous without being particularly good looking. until she arrived, the pop world was pretty straightforward in terms of the importance placed upon one's looks. it doesn't seem to matter with her, which i guess is either a marketing triumph, or a testament to her abilities as a performer, or a bit of both, i suppose.― borntohula, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
― borntohula, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
yes, here we have Britney as straightforward popstar:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lgrG2xMG3Gs/R6rjxQt5l0I/AAAAAAAAAdo/E4Dfyj1r0xg/s320/britney_spears_leather.jpg
and Lady Gaga, blowing the lid off our expectations of what a pop star can look like:http://www.popstarsplus.com/images/LadyGaGaPicture001.jpg
― sussing out the Slick Hustler (I DIED), Thursday, 11 June 2009 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link
it's like she flipped the whole concept 90 degrees
― some dude, Thursday, 11 June 2009 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link
faceplolm
― makeitstop (k3vin k.), Thursday, 11 June 2009 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link
real talk i think LG is basically making fun of 'artsy' artists even if she doesnt realize it
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 11 June 2009 06:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I think this whole thing has been figured out already, but I am asking if this is something that is on the radio?
― james k polk, Thursday, 11 June 2009 06:41 (fourteen years ago) link
all the freaking time
― Change Display Name: (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 June 2009 07:22 (fourteen years ago) link
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― what u arrestin me for, innit (╓abies), Thursday, 11 June 2009 07:31 (fourteen years ago) link
"And I always thought Stars Are Blind was one of the greatest records ever". Street cred: gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWF3GhS_WQA#t=1m08s
― westewoud, Thursday, 11 June 2009 09:30 (fourteen years ago) link
hipsters relate to people who arent very good at anything
― Popper, Thursday, 11 June 2009 10:32 (fourteen years ago) link
She's crap.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 11 June 2009 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know why (my fucked up mind i guess)but she somehow reminds me of a 40+ Israeli transvestite. trying to be hip.
― Ludo, Thursday, 11 June 2009 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link
no, i think you're onto something
― i give a fuck about them haters, young shipple been gettin paper (some dude), Thursday, 11 June 2009 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link
:P
― Ludo, Thursday, 11 June 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
GIS for "40+ Israeli transvestite" pulls up a lot of British transvestites/cross-dressers. And Rudy Giuliani.
― 1899 Horsey Horseless (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 June 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
hipsters like her because she is ugly. hipsters like ugly.
sorry.
― akm, Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
40+ Israeli transvestite essentially means you're referring to Dana International, right? I see it.
― Mordy, Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
she kinda reminds me of Maya Rudolph doing Donatella Versace
― i give a fuck about them haters, young shipple been gettin paper (some dude), Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
honestly all the ugly talk kinda makes me want to root for her in a way.
i read that rolling stone article she seemed okay.
like on one level i think her and peaches are pretty much total balls from a music perspective..but it bums me out that there seems to be a certain level of extra intense hate for them that comes from them being maybe not conventionally "pretty" but still casting themselves as sex symbols or sexy.
like people hate them for it or something, which seems like a pretty bummer misogynistic trip to me.
― i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
it is too bad that so many music nerds are turning to misogyny--used to be just about the least sexist group of people i can think of
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
haha
― i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't buy it
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
― i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:18 PM (21 minutes ago)
dude come on dont be such a pussy here...you don't know people irl who wear ridiculous outfits they can't pull off and think really highly of themselves even though they're ugly as fuck and have no good qualities? those are the most annoying people!!
― makeitstop (k3vin k.), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link