Why does Lady Gaga get a free pass from hipsters?

i fancy myself as smart and cool

i smart myself as cool and fancy

M@tt's post made me chortle

'Just Dance' may have captured your fancy right now but you will never remember it in the future.

― Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

That's what makes it a good pop song.

― touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:59 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah good pop songs aren't memorable, everyone knows that

― i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:09 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

OK what I meant is that it's the kind of song that sounds amazing for like two weeks and then it becomes totally irrelevant, and that's not a bad thing IMO.

why hello dere

can't agree there old sport

If it helps, my working definition of hipster would be: people who fancy themselves as smart and cool.

― makeitpop

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One of them is in Holy Hail, otherwise idk xpost

I don't hate 'Just Dance' but I never hum it, is all I'm saying and I hum stupid-ass songs from every decade I've been alive (and quite a few from ones even before that).

I basically don't know anyone who is thumbs-upping Lady GaGa while hating on Britney et al. I mean, I'd be surprised to find a hipster who likes "Just Dance" but can't stand "Toxic."

I would concur with jaymc but then this occurred to me:

I basically don't know anyone who is thumbs-upping Lady GaGa while hating on Britney et al. I mean, I'd be surprised to find a hipster who likes "Just Dance" but can't stand "Toxic."

I imagine you know a few online, michael

I guess the difference would be that Britney is almost always appreciated ironically by hipsters, whereas Gaga seems to be sincerely accepted with little reservation (yes, that's a lot of generalizations). This, despite the fact that the actual style of their music is nearly identical.

that is completely wrong

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makeitso

lady gaga/star trek TNG fanfic to thread!

Most of the really big boosts of Lady Gaga I've seen have come from critics who both like chart-pop and like the idea of a performer with a story, a self-determined visual aesthetic, a backstory, a soundbite-friendly interview style etc.

These aren't Geir-people (they still listen to Britney regardless) but the "she's the new Madonna" claim doeshave traction for these types.

They're both gay and straight. My tl;dr post about vacuous pop didn't really go into why people would like gaga (or why gay people would) but I would say a specifically or self-consciously "gay" appreciation of Lady Gaga would also include an in-built appreciation for her ridiculousness - the fashion shoots and photographs that go beyond wacky and into disastrous territory, the ludicrousness of her claims for herself, the way her music can seem generic and idiosyncratic at the same time etc. etc.

Whereas the not-specifically-gay version would usually play down the appreciation-of-failure side of things.

Having said that, I don't think her commercial success is founded on either types of people.

no her commercial success is founded on the fact that she was the first woman to successfully plant her flag at the top of Mount Hipster, apparently

pass was only free cause she grifted it

The gays are okay with her. It's enough.

Why does ilx hate her so? Is she really overexposed in places that aren't Australia? Because here she can be one of the handful of songs occasionally played on commercial radio that you don't mind.

she's basically an art school kid that made it big doing her own thing and comes off as such which is why that crowd goes for it.
whether or not you like her it's stupid to make the aguilera / spears comparison

or use "hipsters" in 2009

but whatever.

― fauxmarc, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is totally wrong i think. she doesnt really have those fans except for that small niche of ppl already into chart pop. her main fanbase is, & i dont mean this in a particularly condescending way although it might sound like i do, women who go clubbing & liked sex & the city a whole lot. its getting young yuppie love, basically, at least from the ladies. its popular shit. i dont really know any hip trendy folks who are into it except as, like, an ironic thing

like, i dont think anyone is convinced by her 'art school' thing -- i dont think you're supposed to be convinced by it?? i think her fans see it as like, her 'hobby' or as an affect, not as an identity

its like, ironic art school

makeitpop is kbp, right?

we r all kbp now

this guy

so i was in the record store today and started reading abt her in rolling stone (i am genuinely interested because whatever is causing her popularity it ain't the songs). got as far as the part about her dropping out of nyu and living alone in manhattan, where she would get coke delivered and then do her hair in makeup in a mirror for hours at a time.

*hair AND makeup

i find her interesting because she's become famous without being particularly good looking. until she arrived, the pop world was pretty straightforward in terms of the importance placed upon one's looks. it doesn't seem to matter with her, which i guess is either a marketing triumph, or a testament to her abilities as a performer, or a bit of both, i suppose.

she's basically an art school kid that made it big doing her own thing and comes off as such which is why that crowd goes for it.
whether or not you like her it's stupid to make the aguilera / spears comparison

or use "hipsters" in 2009

but whatever.

― fauxmarc, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is totally wrong i think. she doesnt really have those fans except for that small niche of ppl already into chart pop. her main fanbase is, & i dont mean this in a particularly condescending way although it might sound like i do, women who go clubbing & liked sex & the city a whole lot. its getting young yuppie love, basically, at least from the ladies. its popular shit. i dont really know any hip trendy folks who are into it except as, like, an ironic thing
― autogucci cru (deej), jueves 11 de junio de 2009 2:42 (2 hours ago)

I think deej is otm here, at least in my hometown people only listen to her because they play her at clubs. So it's the sort of shit I've heard my friends play while dressing up before going to the club. I haven't met noone that really knows her backstory or owns her record. I feel truly sorry for you peeps who apparently seem to deal with listening to her music in a daily basis and in different environments.

i find her interesting because she's become famous without being particularly good looking. until she arrived, the pop world was pretty straightforward in terms of the importance placed upon one's looks. it doesn't seem to matter with her, which i guess is either a marketing triumph, or a testament to her abilities as a performer, or a bit of both, i suppose.

― borntohula, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:55 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you should qualify whether you mean importance placed on looks specifically in regard to female pop stars. or i'm just going to assume you think T-Pain is dreamy.

the funny thing about LG isn't so much that she's terrible-looking as that she tries for these ridiculous fashion statements that generally only really gorgeous women can get away with

i find her interesting because she's become famous without being particularly good looking. until she arrived, the pop world was pretty straightforward in terms of the importance placed upon one's looks. it doesn't seem to matter with her, which i guess is either a marketing triumph, or a testament to her abilities as a performer, or a bit of both, i suppose.

― borntohula, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yes, here we have Britney as straightforward popstar:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lgrG2xMG3Gs/R6rjxQt5l0I/AAAAAAAAAdo/E4Dfyj1r0xg/s320/britney_spears_leather.jpg

and Lady Gaga, blowing the lid off our expectations of what a pop star can look like:
http://www.popstarsplus.com/images/LadyGaGaPicture001.jpg

it's like she flipped the whole concept 90 degrees

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real talk i think LG is basically making fun of 'artsy' artists even if she doesnt realize it

I think this whole thing has been figured out already, but I am asking if this is something that is on the radio?

all the freaking time

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"And I always thought Stars Are Blind was one of the greatest records ever". Street cred: gone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWF3GhS_WQA#t=1m08s

hipsters relate to people who arent very good at anything

She's crap.

i don't know why (my fucked up mind i guess)
but she somehow reminds me of a 40+ Israeli transvestite. trying to be hip.

no, i think you're onto something

:P

GIS for "40+ Israeli transvestite" pulls up a lot of British transvestites/cross-dressers. And Rudy Giuliani.