the alt-right

i can't find it within myself to take umbrage at the implication that ben shapiro is a hypocrite of low moral character

it's not about giving _her_ credit, it's about giving _them_ credit for being motivated by anything beyond personal feelings, and truthfully i don't think they deserve that credit

I...agree with Fred

otm xp

xp about making men horny all the time?

keeping men horny and confused is just good praxis

right-wing memes consistently portray AOC as a ditz (90% of them are just recycled "dumb blonde" jokes), I think Fredrik is right here

They’re monsters. I think it’s inappropriate to talk about who might find her attractive and whatever though—even from the standpoint of being critical of the alt right. She isn’t inviting this kind of attention. She is just trying to be a member of congress and advocate for her constituents.

She’s facing gender based attacks from the right. Period. Their psychological motivations aren’t worth discussifn.

It’s gross to think about and irrelevant.

i just assume that we're affirming fred's statement that he is constantly making men horny.

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I'm at a point in my online life where my mind is so broken I genuinely can't tell if the artist believes this is a good or bad thing pic.twitter.com/tuCfRsoSzY

— please @ me for access to my powerful brain (@ChrisCaesar) March 31, 2019

There might be a bit of projection at work here too, given how the conservative movement has deployed/manipulated the sexual attractiveness of women on their side

keeping men horny and confused is just good praxis

― Simon H., Monday, April 1, 2019 6:11 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

updating my entry for fred on my xls with this new info

Is Alessandra Mussolini alt-right?

i think being a direct descendant, and fanatical admirer of, benito mussolini makes you about as trad-right as it’s possible to be

There's nothing wrong with making men horny, I do it all the time.

ILX politics threads being exhibit A of this most unlikely phenomenon.

I actually think the horniness is really caused by their sublimated attraction to left-wing political ideas.

I am serious about this--a lot of conservatism boils down to a kind of Protestant disciplinary project (both disciplining others and oneself). Resisting AOC's "hotness" as a principle of how serious (ie, Elected and not Damned) they are is very important.

There's nothing wrong with making men horny, I do it all the time.

― Frederik B, Monday, April 1, 2019 8:28 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love this so much

i didn't catch it before when i swooped in to scold everyone

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/white-power-symbol-found-after-fire-destroys-social-justice-center-n990271

checking out a later period Steven Stapleton record on Youtube and hey look there's fawning videos about how Peterson and Shapiro DESTROY their critics right there in the recommendations for no fucking reason at all

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-04-02/youtube-executives-ignored-warnings-letting-toxic-videos-run-rampant

I use youtube exclusively for watching footage of vintage jazz performances on dutch TV and I get the exact same thing. I don't even know who the fuck Peterson is, and I barely know Shapiro except to know that they're both pricks.

i live in hope that at some point somebody will enforce some accountability on google for their extremely broken site. it's a farfetched hope, but still important to have.

i guess i might theoretically at some point quit using youtube the way i quit using facebook, but i don't see it happening anytime soon. it's unlikely enough that i am unwilling to even pretend it's a practical option.

when i go to youtube logged out in a private browsing window the #1 thing it invariably suggests i might enjoy is videos of black men receiving large prison sentences

obama was a v handsome man but u didn't see ppl continually claiming that he was hated bc they just found him too sexy + it confused them (which is such a fucking stupid claim on its face

― Mordy, Monday, April 1, 2019 1:19 PM (four days ago

4 years ago I would have thought it was crazy, but now the idea of lots of right wing straight white men finding him kinda sexy and being infuriated about that doesn't seem so far fetched. Oftentimes in right wing paranoid sex fantasies about wives being stolen, the man is the centre of obsessively particular attention, the woman matters a lot less.

Take advice from someone who has endless morbid curiousity, never type into a search engine Rule 34 followed by Trump, Obama or Nicki Minaj.

there was a right-wing thing that obama was a gay sex worker and michelle obama was a trans woman so i think we can assume that a lot of republicans are psychosexual nightmares

See also: I believe dominatrixes that look like stereotypical "SJWs" are popular because some men find them scary.

Also, just read Robert E. Howard's story "The Hyena" last week. Full of racist/masochist fantasy.

I guess he needed an outlet from his usual work

"Cannibal!" I ejaculated, involuntarily.

It's possibly more pronounced in "the Hyena" than anything else. I haven't read all his stories (just scratched the surface really) but some REH scholar listed a bunch of his sorta s&m stories and this one stood out.

4 years ago I would have thought it was crazy, but now the idea of lots of right wing straight white men finding him kinda sexy and being infuriated about that doesn't seem so far fetched. Oftentimes in right wing paranoid sex fantasies about wives being stolen, the man is the centre of obsessively particular attention, the woman matters a lot less.

― Robert Adam Gilmour

i have no idea which paranoid right-wingers are queer (though i have my suspicions about milo)

but there is, for the record, a long historical tradition of not considering women to be people

in DC

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/White-Nationalists-Interrupt-Author-Chant-This-Land-Is-Our-Land-at-Politics-and-Prose-509170021.html

New Zealand: alt right terrorist attacks house of worship of religious minority -- country immediately changes gun laws.

USA: alt right terrorist attacks house of worship of religious minority -- meh.

B-b-but maybe this time Trump will actually backpedal on his equivocating over alt right terrorism. Or was it really just about a statue all along?

I think i was a bit set off by the Guardian's fawning interview with Bret Easton Ellis:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/28/bret-easton-ellis-millennials-white-interview

Stfu old dude, your ideas are 30 years out of date. "I TRIGGER millennials. Out there sticking it to the man. Or the woman of color. Whatever, they're TRIGGERED."

nice gammon reference though:

His manner is warm, and his face – pinker and heavier now than at the height of his literary fame, and topped with hair that is silver – bears a near-permanent smile.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2019/04/28/ignore-the-poway-synagogue-shooters-manifesto-pay-attention-to-8chans-pol-board/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosiegray/katie-mchugh

Most interesting for the view into the conservative media pipeline

It's fascinating. But I'm struggling to feel any sympathy for her, not that I should and not that the piece really asks us to.

I not only struggle with sympathy for people like her, but I honestly struggle with the idea that there should even be any sympathy, or redemption, rehabilitation or forgiveness.

It sounds like she's shafted her chances of getting much meaningful work for the moment. As with that ex-Nazi poet, if you don't believe in redemption then there's something seriously fucking wrong with you

...not that she's redeemed yet - for a start, it's unclear what her current political beliefs actually are

The fact that she burned her "journalism" career to the ground is an unambiguously good thing, and it's just a shame she didn't take more people down with her.

The one thing I know is that it's not up to me, or any other white person, to decide whether or not a racist or a nazi has redeemed themselves.

Not quite.

of course not, it's a committee decision