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I must be thick, to me it just sounds like a well engineered dark pop record with a sense of humour.

― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:53 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, this is my stance, but I've read so many comments on reviews/profiles that are like "sorry this actually sucks," and then there was that whole attempt at a mini-backlash a few days ago

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link

"Xanny" could be like a '73/'74 era Roxy track.

If you like melody, modernism and a colorful personality, she really ain't that hard to enjoy?

mr.raffles, Monday, 1 April 2019 03:24 (five years ago) link

I hear enough “pop music sucks” IRL that I guess I reached a breaking point.

― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, March 31, 2019 9:55 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, I'd be the last person to say that pop music sucks. I like pop music, and some days believe there's very little that beats the thrill and rush of a really good pop song/track. I just really hate it when creators of pop music insult the artform by either getting lazy or putting out shite, and I've heard a lot of music which falls under this umbrella this decade.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link

'putting out shite'

cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 02:36 (five years ago) link

what is lazier than literally anyone who records anything is what turrican says about music he doesn't like.

cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 02:39 (five years ago) link

Judging by the music, I completely disagree.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 02:42 (five years ago) link

my 10 year old goddaughter is really interested in this album, which makes me want to listen to it

Dan S, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 03:10 (five years ago) link

Music and cultural "taste" is backed up with correct arguments and facts, not "digging".

― Banaka™

⅋ (crüt), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

I was ready to hate this, but all the kids are right. It's great.

triggercut, Saturday, 6 April 2019 08:25 (five years ago) link

Yep.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 April 2019 09:26 (five years ago) link

I think most teenage girls go through a phase where their parents think they are sociopaths.

That's the (somewhat winking) conclusion this excellent book comes to, which I almost highly recommend to anyone, not just parents of girls:

https://www.amazon.com/Untangled-Guiding-Teenage-Transitions-Adulthood/dp/0553393057/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=untangled&qid=1554554652&s=gateway&sr=8-2

That said, my older girl seems into this person, and yeah, "gen z as fuck" seems like a good way to sum up her appeal and also why she might turn someone off. For some reason when she plays here this summer she is doing an early and late show, which doesn't seem like something that happens very often anymore.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 April 2019 12:47 (five years ago) link

(book is called "Untangled: Guiding Teenage Girls Through the Seven Transitions into Adulthood")

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 April 2019 12:48 (five years ago) link

Never been a teenage girl iirc but you'd be forgiven for thinking I too was a sociopath at that age.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 April 2019 13:08 (five years ago) link

I don’t think she seems like a sociopath, just (in the songs) a little bit of a zombie.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 6 April 2019 13:18 (five years ago) link

The album is better than i thought though. But gloomy and dull by design—that’s the sound of the moment

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 6 April 2019 13:21 (five years ago) link

When the party’s over is the best one i think

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 6 April 2019 13:24 (five years ago) link

dang I forgot to vote for "Stay". you all would loooooove my falsetto on that one

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 6 April 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link

gloomy and dull by design

My jam. Nothing makes me feel more alone than the sound of enforced happiness.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 April 2019 13:26 (five years ago) link

oops wrong thread, should say here, you all would loooooove my falsetto on "Bad Guy"

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 6 April 2019 13:26 (five years ago) link

I thought you were going to say '8'.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 April 2019 13:28 (five years ago) link

it's not really a falsetto album, I was scrambling

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 6 April 2019 13:31 (five years ago) link

so have we settled the matter?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 April 2019 13:36 (five years ago) link

If it’s good or not? I think it’s a very characteristic album for this era. That’s all I’vd really been saying.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 6 April 2019 13:39 (five years ago) link

i think it's good. i'm not taken by all the tracks yet but still compelled to keep listening. bizarrely "you should see me in a crown", which i didn't like much as a single, has grown on me in the context of the full album

dyl, Saturday, 6 April 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

weird that pre-teens are now listening to witch house tracks. this stuff is surprisingly good though.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link

I like this a lot. yeah her voice does sound like LDR. whatever. the music is good too.

akm, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 18:50 (five years ago) link

I don’t hear the LDR comparisons... it sounds closer to say, Sofi Tukker to me.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link

this podcast on her music was good, ends with an interview of her brother

https://www.switchedonpop.com/billie-eilish-is-a-different-kind-of-pop-star/

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link

I haven't listened to Switched-on Pop in a while. Thanks for the reminder.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link

i'm getting a little hooked on some of this

Nick Chiveon (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link

it's interesting because her brother's solo music is... well, not bad, but not as good as this

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:25 (five years ago) link

I can see Bad Guy used in a lot of tv/movie preview montages and stuff

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link

it's interesting because her brother's solo music is... well, not bad, but not as good as this

Weird, because my takeaway from this album was that the brother is as much a discovery as Billie herself. It takes something special to make the soporific sound of the moment wake up a bit while still ticking all the pertinent streaming-friendly boxes, but as far as I’m concerned they’ve done it.

You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link

(Of course it’s possible that I’ve just sorely missed the sound of a 4/4 kick drum at a tempo above 110, and “bad guy” and “bury a friend” are very much scratching that itch. But even the trappier stuff like “you should see me in a crown” still feels like a novel twist on the given formula.)

You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:42 (five years ago) link

I really like this, especially the 2nd half. "I Love You" is beautiful

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:57 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Tricky being in there makes a lot of sense.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 May 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

hi i'm old and all the "who is billie eilish? WHY is billie eilish?" writing somehow made me not getting around to listening to her music for a while and.. i really like it!

also otm:
have people confused about why teens like angsty music ever been teens

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:22 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mh, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Hi, I'm redeeming my late pass here because I just encountered "Bury a Friend" and went "holy shit wow"

I get the Lorde comparison due to a similarity in their vocal quality (that was my first thought when I heard the song) but, as I hear more, the comparison starts falling apart because the overall approaches are so different.

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

I could have made the exact same post about two weeks ago!

mh, Monday, 10 June 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

I'm listening to the album for the first time and it's much less aggro/gothy than I was expecting on the whole from the marketing. It's really nicely mixed, big dynamic range.

Simon H., Monday, 10 June 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

re: the "My Strange Addiction" - "Bury A Friend" - "Ilomilo" section Brad referenced upthread, I keep thinking of a slightly different world where Selena Gomez chose to go this direction and how she would probably kill at these songs.

I also keep thinking about how I hear these strong similarities in her work to other artists but how they cohere into a vision that is 100% singular and fascinating. I don't get why anyone would react so negatively towards this.

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

yeah other than "Wish You Were Gay" and the Office samples I don't get the hate either, unless it's just kneejerk anti-zoomer-ism or something

Simon H., Monday, 10 June 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

the only thing i don't particularly care for here is "8"

wonderful debut

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

'When The Party's Over' reminds me of FKA Twigs. And I get all the comparisons (Lorde, Gomez et all) but it's to her advantage that she's not easily pinpointed. I think this is a wonderful album all in all, with the aforementioned one or two misses.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

I'm imagining a new combo single in the vein of "Ladies' Night"/"Bang Bang"/"Lady Marmalade" only it's Selena Gomez, Billie Eilish, Demi Lovato, and Lorde doing "Temple of Love"

— DJP (@djperry1973) June 10, 2019

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

Her music sounds really good when you hear it randomly played during a normal day.

Yerac, Monday, 10 June 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

Would stream xp

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

i think the lorde thing was less a direct sonic comparison and more of a cultural/contextual thing? i could be wrong tho

i prob posted this upthread but i thought what is cool about this album is how despite her narrative as a gen z groundbreaker or w/e it fits into a sort of cross genre continuum of bold female driven pop

J0rdan S., Monday, 10 June 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

A good RS comparison was to PJ Harvey's To Bring You My Love timeframe.

Yerac, Monday, 10 June 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link


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