"Use other words please."

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it makes me so mad!!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 March 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link

i mean basically they shouldn't say it at all: if anything using it wrongly is breaking out of the prisonhouse of cliché

(albeit into another prisonhouse, also ultimately of cliché)

mark s, Friday, 29 March 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

to coin the proverbial phrase

mick signals, Friday, 29 March 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link

and take it to the bank

mark s, Friday, 29 March 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

I'm of the opinion that people in the main are much less interested in coining new and fresh phrases now than they were when "to coin a phrase" was a popular phrase in its non-ironic sense.

mick signals, Friday, 29 March 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link

Love is so simple, to quote a phrase
You've known it all the time, I'm learnin' it these days

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link

I remember that The NME in the 1990s used the word "angular" a lot. A bit of googling throws up this feature in the NME from May 1995 in which they describe Radiohead guitarist Johnny Greenwood as angular. On the cover: Dodgy. They must have described Menswear as angular at some point but I'm not googling that. To be fair Jonny Greenwood does have thin arms.

"To be fair", or TBF, that's another one. I write "in their defence" instead. Amirite?

Ashley Pomeroy, Saturday, 30 March 2019 12:57 (five years ago) link

How about “angular” to describe music — “Wire’s taut, angular post-punk,” etc.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 30 March 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link

Reminds me of the days when “muscular” drumming seemed to be everywhere.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link

I mean, describing Greenwood as angular is a lot more tolerable than describing music that way!

alpine static, Monday, 1 April 2019 06:47 (five years ago) link

Physically and musically angular: Jonny Greenwood, Tom Verlaine...

Sam Weller, Monday, 1 April 2019 07:35 (five years ago) link

When the word "Because" is used as both a subordinating conjunction and a preposition. ("Sentences" that solely consist of "Because ____, I guess.", or a similar linguistic silliness.)

Prefecture, Monday, 1 April 2019 15:00 (five years ago) link

____ is usually 'reasons'

or 'communism'

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Monday, 1 April 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link

I feel like that was a cutesy Internet trend that has largely run its course?

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 1 April 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link

The use of it as a clever and unexpected sentence structure has largely run its course.
The use of it as a lazy joke is probably years from petering out.

enochroot, Monday, 1 April 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link

Language is bad.

pomenitul, Monday, 1 April 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link

howard cosell used to call philadelphia eagles wide receiver harold carmichael (who at 6'8" was the tallest WR in NFL history) 'the angular one'

mookieproof, Monday, 1 April 2019 16:52 (five years ago) link

probably a topic for another less lawn-defensive thread but i'm intrigued how and why some usages pall and others just bed in for eternity w/o anyone minding

mark s, Monday, 1 April 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link

"most ambitious work to date"

bendy, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link

For some reason "angular" to describe vaguely post-punk guitar riffs has never really bothered me. Yeah, it's a cliche, but I also know exactly what it means when someone uses it.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link

It's mentioned a bunch of times here, but "seminal" is the one that really bugs me. I always read as "this foundational work that was literally jizzed into existence."

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:52 (five years ago) link

my absolute least favorite is when musicians who are perpetual side players or have played with a lot of different bands are described as "promiscuous"
no.
and yes -- i am aware that the word can be used in a non-sexual way but according to the definitions i have found, all of them carry a vague to serious negative connotation.

demonstrating or implying an undiscriminating or unselective approach; indiscriminate or casual.
"the city fathers were promiscuous with their honors"
synonyms: indiscriminate, undiscriminating, unselective, random, irresponsible, haphazard, thoughtless, unthinking, unconsidered, casual, careless
"the promiscuous popping of antibiotics hasn't helped his T-cell count"
antonyms: careful, selective

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link

"in-demand"?

mick signals, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link

sure beats "promiscuous" and is more accurate

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:22 (five years ago) link

I've complained about this before but "kiss-off." not every breakup song is a sassy emoji!

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link

The phrase "torturous path" is an indication that with 95% probability, the author doesn't realize there is a separate adjective "tortuous" meaning "twisting, turning, winding".

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 09:01 (five years ago) link

If cover blurbs are to be believed, every book of history is 'magisterial' and many history reviewers need to buy a thesaurus.

Oold Lunch (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 01:39 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

The "artist / album does blank, blank, and blank—-sometimes all in the same song" construction really needs to go

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 27 July 2019 11:14 (four years ago) link

Haha, paged away from this comment and immediately encountered your likely inspiration:
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/100-gecs-1000-gecs/

Feels like a pretty effective summation of the 100 gecs appeal in this instance, though.

what else are you all “over” (Champiness), Saturday, 27 July 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

ick

budo jeru, Saturday, 27 July 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

wouldn't mind never seeing "rootsy" again

del griffith, Saturday, 27 July 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link

“Closer to You” is all snarly synth bass, clattering trap percussion and processed vocals...

I’ve always disliked this particular cliché — “song x is all attribute attribute attribute...”

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Sunday, 4 August 2019 04:11 (four years ago) link

my absolute least favorite is when musicians who are perpetual side players or have played with a lot of different bands are described as "promiscuous"


ha ha, I’ve never seen it used but omg that’s terrible

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Sunday, 4 August 2019 04:17 (four years ago) link

forgot what thread i'd opened and was struggling to tie that description to "Get Closer" by Seals and Crofts

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 4 August 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

From the 'pitchfork is dumb' thread, this exchange made me let out an involuntary guffaw:


I am in favor of descriptions that describe the actual sounds, especially if they have points of reference — I’ve found old albums or bands to listen to that I hadn’t heard after reading a review of a new one I liked.

The reviewer should not, however, say that a song sounds “like artists X and Y had a baby”

― untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:34 PM bookmarkflaglink

what if the baby took acid tho

― Οὖτις, Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:36 PM bookmarkflaglink

enochroot, Saturday, 17 August 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

in the last few months I've been seeing people misuse (intentionally or unintentionally) "gaslighting" to mean a variety of things that are very far removed from gaslighting. People seem to be using it as shorthand for "you are disagreeing with me on this thing and I think you are a moron for having an opinion that is so obviously wrong". It's been misused that way on ILX on a few rare occasions. It was misused that way by butthurt Star Wars fans who were upset that John Boyega had the audacity to say that Reylo made no sense as a shipping. I saw two people arguing today about a festival lineup and one of the two accused the other of gaslighting because they suggested that the only reason they didn't like the lineup was because they were elitist and narrow-minded (???).

a lot of it seems to be thin-skinned people who can't bear to have their worldview challenged and weaponize it in an attempt to shut down the debate. it's frustrating because though we're a long way from it, like "fake news", it's a word that can easily be stripped of its meaning fast if certain bad actors repurpose it.

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 03:25 (four years ago) link

“butthurt” is probably also a good word to avoid ;)

Into the Bro-known: One Dude’s ‘Frozen’ Podcast (morrisp), Saturday, 4 January 2020 03:30 (four years ago) link

it's been imprinted within me after years of ILXing, old habits die hard.

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 03:32 (four years ago) link

trolling = disagreeing now, losing any sense of meaning it may have had

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Saturday, 4 January 2020 06:19 (four years ago) link

psychedelic

brimstead, Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

Still better than 'on acid'.

pomenitul, Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

Also i hate "OCD" used as shorthand for "I'm very tidy and don't like clutter".

I have mild OCD and yea that ain't it.

papa stank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link

I really fucking hate the word "monetize" but it will be a useful indicator of who should be first in line for the gulags, so maybe I'll have to put up with it for a while.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 January 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

I sort of wish there was a better word for what people really mean when they say "nature," i.e. bucolic settings, outdoor space, greenery, fresh air. None of this is necessarily "nature." People even refer to farms as "nature" when they are very far from natural. "Nature" is often miserable and something to be escaped. A lawn with a small patch of woods behind it is as man-made as the house overlooking it.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

otm, i'm always trying to get architecture students to be more precise about this. pretty much everybody wants their building to "connect with the nature" but what exactly that means to you, and how you're going to do it architecturally, is a space of ten thousand possibilities.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

and, like, why it's supposed to be a good thing!

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

“project”

It’s an album or an EP. Why did this new term take hold?

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Thursday, 13 August 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

Maybe someone told them “Use other words please.”

rob, Thursday, 13 August 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

No fan/listener would say it — “Have you heard (artist)’s new ‘project’?” So why do artists use it?

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Thursday, 13 August 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link


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