george springer did *not* lead off the astros season with a homer for the third straight year
but he did homer in his second at-bat
― mookieproof, Thursday, 28 March 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link
.@tatis_jr is the youngest player to have a multi-hit game on #OpeningDay since Robin Yount in 1975. pic.twitter.com/bwYhJJ1qqv— MLB Stats (@MLBStats) March 28, 2019
― mookieproof, Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link
meanwhile, vladimir hones his game in extended spring training
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 March 2019 23:53 (five years ago) link
history wd thank u for making a nu thred
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 March 2019 00:15 (five years ago) link
mookie, it's up to you. my job here is to react to the trivia and then make really dumb jokes about it
― Karl Malone, Friday, 29 March 2019 00:17 (five years ago) link
Allow me to interrupt:
Today's opening day 47 HRs eclipses the previous record of 46 HRs set in 1999.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 29 March 2019 02:23 (five years ago) link
how many 'opening days' have had all the teams playing?
― mookieproof, Friday, 29 March 2019 02:29 (five years ago) link
Scherzer/deGrom were the first Opening Day starters since McNally/McDowell in 1970 to both strike out 10.
Home runs and strikeouts, sounds familiar.
― clemenza, Friday, 29 March 2019 03:47 (five years ago) link
Eight HRs by the Dodgers set a new team opening day record.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 29 March 2019 11:03 (five years ago) link
now out of date, but
Dodgers have scored 49 runs this year. Giants have 50 total bases.— Sam Miller (@SamMillerBB) April 3, 2019
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 04:28 (five years ago) link
Per @EliasSports, Chris Iannetta becomes the first Rockies player to record the game-winning RBI in 1-0 Rockies wins three different times. Has done it on a HR each time. He is the third active player to have three or more home runs in 1-0 wins (N. Walker, 4; J. Upton, 3).— Rockies PR (@RockiesPR) April 3, 2019
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link
The #Cubs lead the Majors in:BA (.307) & OBP (.398)ANDOpponent BA (.303) & OBP (.417)— Christopher Kamka (@ckamka) April 5, 2019
― na (NA), Friday, 5 April 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link
Shane Greene becomes first player since MLB recognized the save statistic 50 years ago to record seven saves in team's first 10 games.— Jason Beck (@beckjason) April 7, 2019
― Andy K, Sunday, 7 April 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link
Chris Davis now holds the all time hitless record - 49 consecutive at bats going back to last year
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 18:58 (five years ago) link
Chris Davis is due
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 18:59 (five years ago) link
to retire
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:17 (five years ago) link
dear Baltimore Orioles, I will CRUSH this record, hire me
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:17 (five years ago) link
Put it in the record books—the Mariners have hit a home run in 1️⃣5️⃣ straight games to start the season. 💥 pic.twitter.com/tIAHp1lZNC— Seattle Mariners (@Mariners) April 11, 2019
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:32 (five years ago) link
if dee gordon hits a home run and nobody is in the stands to see it, does it count for runs
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link
Mitch Garver is leading off tonight for the Twins. He's the first Twins catcher to bat leadoff in a game since Butch Wynegar in 1980.— Aaron Gleeman (@AaronGleeman) April 15, 2019
― mookieproof, Monday, 15 April 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link
I'm going to go by memory here and not check this first: in my mind, Wynegar and Wockenfuss were both considered fast for catchers?
― clemenza, Monday, 15 April 2019 23:07 (five years ago) link
15 career SB between them, so maybe not...(They did total 26 triples).
― clemenza, Monday, 15 April 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link
i had a memory of Carlton Fisk having had a season w/a lot of triples and he did, he led the AL in triples with 9 in his rookie season. weirdly he also stole 17(!) bases in 1985, tying a career high. this was the same season he hit a career high 37 home runs, all at age 37. I remember him being slow, but i may also be mixing it up with how long he took to take a single AB. considering the length of his career behind the dish i suspect he was just a more elite athlete than he appeared to be.
― omar little, Monday, 15 April 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link
I think I was getting my '70s W-catchers mixed up: it was John Wathan who stole all the bases (seasonal high of 36, 105 in 860 career games).
― clemenza, Monday, 15 April 2019 23:56 (five years ago) link
i don't know where else to put these random bits of info regarding future 3,000 career hit possibilities:
there are currently four active players with over 2,000 hits:
Pujols - 3,093Cabrera - 2,692Cano - 2,484Markakis - 2,256
Pujols and Cabrera look like toast, Cano is 36 and may very well be (that K rate is presently a bit worrisome for him), and the best player out of that group now appears to be Markakis. I'd be surprised if he's able to get enough playing time to reach 3k, he's in that "Mark Grace with the Arizona Diamondbacks" phase of his career.
the list of active players at least halfway there with 1,500+ career hits is this:
Ian Kinsler (14, 37) - 1,951Melky Cabrera (15, 34) - 1,874Yadier Molina (16, 36) - 1,865Adam Jones (14, 33) - 1,836 Hanley Ramirez (15, 35) - 1,834Ryan Braun (13, 35) - 1,814Dustin Pedroia (14, 35) - 1,805Matt Kemp (14, 34) - 1,778Curtis Granderson (16, 38) - 1,749Ryan Zimmerman (15, 34) - 1,749 Joey Votto (13, 35) - 1,742Edwin Encarnacion (15, 36) - 1,723Hunter Pence (13, 36) - 1,709Andrew McCutchen (11, 32) - 1,625Howie Kendrick (14, 35) - 1,617Justin Upton (12, 31) - 1,604Evan Longoria (12, 33) - 1,602Nelson Cruz (15, 38) - 1,590Elvis Andrus (11, 30) - 1,585 Asdrubal Cabrera (13, 33) - 1,543 Ben Zobrist (14, 38) - 1,540Brian McCann (15, 35) - 1,526Shin-Soo Choo (15, 36) - 1,515
Andrus seems like he'd have the best shot out of that group, which isn't to say it's likely.
Going down to guys with 1200+ career hits (Trout is at 1,202), it looks like only he and Altuve (1,441 hits at age 29) seem like good bets. But also Trout seems like a guy who will walk more and more as time goes on, I could see him getting Bonds'd when it comes to 3k.
Castro, Hosmer, and Freeman are all between 1200 and 1500 career hits at 29 years old but I don't know....
It's only of interest to me because of the relative frequency with which players have joined the club in recent decades.
going back there were a few major gaps:
- 17 years between Eddie Collins and Paul Waner
- 16 between Waner and Musial
- 12 between Musial and Aaron
since then the longest break was 7 years between Carew and Yount, but since Yount there have been 15 more players who have joined (in 26 years).
― omar little, Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link
Miggy may suck now, but he'll make it to 3000 with ease. all he has to do is eke out 60 hits a year between now and the end of his contract
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:54 (five years ago) link
i guess it all depends on how much he wants the 3k and how long the Tigers will run him out there regularly...
― omar little, Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:01 (five years ago) link
i suppose, but then he only had 40 last year. i can see him rupturing more things than his biceps in the years to come
― mookieproof, Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:02 (five years ago) link
the tigers are 9-9 and shane greene has earned the save in all their wins
― mookieproof, Thursday, 18 April 2019 23:44 (five years ago) link
Cabrera would do well to retire, but if he gets another 100 hits this year, I'd say he makes it with relative ease.
― clemenza, Friday, 19 April 2019 00:02 (five years ago) link
Agree with Andrus on both counts: best bet from the middle group, but not a good one. There are so many relatively anonymous middle infielders who hit ~30 with ~1500 hits; if they haven't had star seasons by that point, they just don't last long enough. (I did mention Andrus on the underrated thread the other day, though.) I've been fooled many times.
I'd say yes to Trout and Altuve, then I think you drop down to Acuna, Albies, and Soto.
― clemenza, Friday, 19 April 2019 00:08 (five years ago) link
Check that, there's also another group nestled between Trout/Altuve and the three young guys: Betts, Lindor, Bogarts, etc. I'm sure at least one of those guys will make a run at 3,000.
― clemenza, Friday, 19 April 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link
Mets are the first NL team in more than 110 years to have three pitchers homer in the first 25 games of a season.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 03:29 (four years ago) link
The Cubs are the first team since the Blue Jays in 2010 to hit multiple 2 out, 3 run homers (or better) in the same inning.
― mookieproof, Thursday, 25 April 2019 02:40 (four years ago) link
nationals are the first team to have three players under 22yo (soto, robles, kieboom) homer in the same game
― mookieproof, Sunday, 28 April 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link
Congrats on your first @MLB win, Elvis Luciano! His milestones:- FIRST player born in the 2000s to get a win- Youngest pitcher in #BlueJays HISTORY to get a win pic.twitter.com/i9vukirSGg— Toronto Blue Jays (@BlueJays) April 28, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 April 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
alex bregman has drawn a walk in 10 straight games; the last astro to do that was noted moneyball-hater joe morgan in 1970
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link
Cloggin' up the basepaths!
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
Noah Syndergaard is the 1st pitcher to throw a shutout and win 1-0 on his own solo HR since Bob Welch for the Dodgers on June 17, 1983...also vs the Reds.— Sarah Langs (@SlangsOnSports) May 2, 2019
― mookieproof, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
would never have thought it's been that long
p sure Seaver did it at least once, maybe Koosman too
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
Noah Syndergaard is the eighth pitcher since 1908 to throw a shutout and hit a HR in a 1-0 win (seventh, if you don't include that 1915 Federal League game) pic.twitter.com/N1HudLpPrN— Baseball Reference (@baseball_ref) May 2, 2019
― Andy K, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
i was wrong obv
bet i listened to or watched that Pizarro game
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
not a bad list of pitchers
though Juan Pizarro having thrown 17 career shutouts is another eye-opener on how how baseball has changed over the past several decades. Pizarro World.
― omar little, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link
getting *more* trivial: thor, wynn and ruffing were the only ones with 10+ K
― mookieproof, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link
tbf syndergaard got some help on the last couple
― mookieproof, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
is throwing a shutout and hitting the only run for your team literally worth one (1.0) WAR or is the whole system dumb and bad
― deus ex majima (Will M.), Friday, 3 May 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link
not unless thor played all of the defensive positions too!
even then, i don't think it would add up to 1.0 WAR. WAR doesn't know that the solo HR ended up being the difference in the game. it would just know how much a HR, on average, contributes to a win (i think)
the stat you might be looking for here is WPA (win probability added): https://www.fangraphs.com/wins.aspx?date=2019-05-02&team=Mets&dh=0&season=2019
by that measure, syndergaard had .686 WPA through his pitching, and added another .062 through his solo HR, for a total of .748 WPA. not too shabby
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
Yeah WAR just measures performance against a league average player, you're probably thinking more along the lines of Win Shares (a James-ian concept that has fallen out of vogue).
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link
or WPA I guess (I'm less familiar with that).
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link
haha yeah i am just being a goof over here :) pretty damn cool tho winning on yr own (w/ defense's help ofc)
― deus ex majima (Will M.), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link