2020 Democratic presidential primary

Gravel, like most old American leftists, has def associated with a ton of sketchy characters. Which I would absolutely care about if he were a real candidate or pushing any of those ideas.

I think of the Gravel canidacy as only sort of being about the kooky senator and mostly about Gen Z entering the conversation.

It’s sorta weird Gravel traveled all the way to Iran to speak to antisemites though.

he seems like the kinda guy who says "yes" to everything tbh. such as the time some literal teenagers asked if they could take over his social media

“stand here for several minutes and then go throw a rock in that lake...no, say nothing.”

I’d rather one of these teenagers be allowed on the debate stage to critique american imperialism. It’s their generation that will be asked to die in these conflicts

he seems like the kinda guy who says "yes" to everything tbh. such as the time some literal teenagers asked if they could take over his social media

he said no at first, then they sent him a "memo" and he changed his mind lol

is there any indication that if Gravel got into the debates, he'd be good?

I honestly have no idea.

He should let the kids dictate his talking points via earpiece.

OK, just stop it

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-wayne-messam-announces-presidential-campaign-20190327-story.html

we're just a step away from a field of city council members

Stacey Abrams adviser on talk of her being Joe Biden’s VP: “What makes it particularly exploitative is that Biden couldn’t be bothered to endorse Stacey in the gubernatorial primary. Now he wants her to save his ass. That’s some serious entitlement.” https://t.co/3g1DeOQXvL

— Matt Viser (@mviser) March 28, 2019

I dont get why she’d do this. Does she think he’s the best candidate?

there was some talk about it on the alt-right thread, is there a reason why people here are so dismissive of Yang? is it because he appeals to the 4Chan/Joe Rogan type or is his platform that bad. all I know about him is the UBI/automation stuff which sounds pretty good to me

I think it’s the rogan/4chan stuff

There is a ton of writing about how and why technocrat/SV conceptions of UBI are insidious, and Yang seems to fit the bill

https://medium.com/s/free-money/universal-basic-income-is-silicon-valleys-latest-scam-fd3e130b69a0

And how his rhetoric is about policy fixes, not building political power from the bottom. It’s very top down/technocratic

dunno if it was posted here in the past two weeks but this new york mag profile of abrams is a treat and won me over as a big fan
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/stacey-abrams-whats-next.html

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution called her management style “aloof and uncommunicative,” and she doesn’t seem to have abandoned her tendency to help the other children by telling them the answers. Last year, Time’s Molly Ball reported on how, soon after getting to the Georgia house, Abrams passed “a helpful note, and then another, and another,” to a Republican lawmaker struggling to explain his own regulatory measure, until “finally he sat down next to her and let her explain it for him.” She then voted against the legislation, telling her surprised colleague, “Look, I think your bill is a bad idea. I just don’t think it should be bad law.”

ha!

that rules

the NYT's 'hey we're going to start talking about pete buttigieg now' piece today mentioned that a recent Quinnipiac poll found him tied with Elizabeth Warren for 5th place. i feel simultaneously happy for buttigieg and disappointed that warren hasn't picked up steam yet

warren is the best candidate in the race imo

not as sharp as Birds of Passage

disappointed that warren hasn't picked up steam yet

disappointed but not surprised

it's March 2018. At this point Sarah Palin was a spot on McCain's tumor.

er, 2019

lol don't scare me like that

whatever, it's 2009

It's 1963. It's 1964. It's 1957. It's 1962.

Butt it all behind you

it’s December 21 2012 and has been for the last 75 months

81 82 83 84

wait does al think elizabeth warren is as sharp as birds of passage or not?

vice versa, and more narco

This was an incredibly difficult thing to do, but something that felt necessary. It took awhile before I found the words and the support that made me feel like this was finally a story I could tell. https://t.co/Sr5Go3xuTe

— Lucy Flores (@LucyFlores) March 29, 2019

I feel like Biden needs to completely enter private life and become a furry.

"become"

just the start, I hope

I was lucky to serve at a time when Americans would honor service members no matter how they felt about US policy.

It wasn’t that way for the Vietnam generation. Better late than never, we owe each of them a heartfelt Thank You and Welcome Home. #VietnamWarVeteransDay

— Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) March 29, 2019

I thought Mayor Pete was supposed to be well-read? Doesn't he know the spitting-on-returning-soldiers thing is a myth?

...I now see that many, many people have pointed this out.

milkshake butt

Seriously, fuck Joe Biden.

Yeah I linked that (slightly ambiguously, I now realize) earlier. I think we can reasonably expect more of those stories to come out.

No, you linked the Flores story a few posts above - this is a much longer, top-to-bottom teardown of the dude's entire career.

oh shit, my bad

but yeah his record is just remarkably awful

He was a good veep, because veeps have no power and do almost nothing.

Buttigieg claiming Viet Nam vets returned home to little appreciation is not A THING. It's run of the mill "I'm running for president" stuff. It's about as important as a flag pin.

run of the mill or not, it's ahistorical bullshit

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.html