defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

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maxine waters apparently violently assaulted him by kind of nudging him out of the way once

mh, Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:44 (five years ago) link

i'm glad i got something from this revive, another reason to like maxine waters

cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 28 March 2019 04:20 (five years ago) link

Yeah she barely brushed him and he cried assault.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 March 2019 04:49 (five years ago) link

I'm ok with Glenn generally, but going on Tucker Carlson to gloat about russiagate seems dumb. Nothing wrong with going on Tucker's show, and more people should do so, but only if you're going to actually use his platform otherwise you're just his useful idiot.

The Michael Tracey guy seems unhinged, desperate to make a bigger name for himself, or both. Not a person to be taken seriously at any rate

anvil, Monday, 1 April 2019 20:23 (five years ago) link

Nothing wrong with going on Tucker's show, and more people should do so, but only if you're going to actually use his platform otherwise you're just his useful idiot.

How exactly is this supposed to work? It's well documented that if a Carlson segment goes poorly for him, he just won't air it.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link

If thats a reference to the Dutch historian thing, I thought the historian guy totally blew that. Tucker would have aired the clip if the historian had stuck to talking about taxation. His decision to launch into a full blooded takedown of Fox/Carlson was never going to air and he knew that, was playing to gallery for the retweets instead.

You don't need the segment to go poorly for Carlson to still get points of view across (taxation, anti-war, legalization, m4a or whatever)

anvil, Monday, 1 April 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link

no one should ever go on tucker's show for any reason. i'm the final arbiter of this. thanks.

also glenn greenwald is perfectly indefensible. lock thread.

bamcquern, Monday, 1 April 2019 21:29 (five years ago) link

wow the Taibbi/Greenwald obsessives have been busy today, so

Didn't see David Corn at the local co-op today. I half expected to find him in the parking lot, selling his Russiagate book out of his trunk.

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) March 31, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 April 2019 22:58 (five years ago) link

who

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link

say glenn greenwald is bottoming but he hasn't cleaned out. what should his last name be changed to? brownwald.

cheese canopy (map), Monday, 1 April 2019 23:20 (five years ago) link

oh no

mh, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 00:32 (five years ago) link

I've been 'letting that one sit' for a few days now

cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 02:33 (five years ago) link

defend the indefensible: Dennis Perrin tweets

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 05:57 (five years ago) link

greenwald might work as is, depending on health and diet

say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 06:09 (five years ago) link

Kind of pissed that Carlson never has DJ Spooky on as a guest, they could debate bullshit IDM

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

illbient times

mh, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link

Lol

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:28 (five years ago) link

(tbc i appreciate the intercept. that image just reminded me of the stuff you see on subway walls advertising these amorphous "leadership conferences.")

cold grey pantaloons (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link

(also: pitbull)

cold grey pantaloons (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link

I've been to one of those conferences, it was a nightmare. Bill Cosby gave a speech that was basically a long riff on "get off my lawn, kids". Somehow the only moderately decent speech was Colin Powell.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link

I honestly don't get why Greenwald is so ride or die to defend Trump from accusations of corruption. Today he's hammering on "the only thing those Resistance wackos are unhappy about in Barr's report is that he suppressed any discussion of the evidence that people working for Trump obstructed justice," which, um, yeah, why would that not be something to be seriously unhappy about?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

This 100+ thread is a tough read:

1) So now we have self-described “progressives” like @ggreenwald and @mtracey telling us that the threat of white nationalism in the USA is “nonexistent” (as Tracey put it), and when called out for that GG chimes in and claims that we “needs be keep the threat in perspective.” pic.twitter.com/89CDRKzN1v

— David Neiwert (@DavidNeiwert) May 20, 2019

Frederik B, Monday, 20 May 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

but take a step back from inside the charred remains of this black church and—oh right you can't you're dead

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link

fuck this asshole

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Honestly the importance and impressiveness of the work he is doing in Brazil right now kind of makes most criticism seem petty.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link

nope

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link

He criticized the Iraq War once, so the defense of white supremacists is cool.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link

he misgendered my friend and refused to apologize for it and caterwauled about how unfair it was to him on a fuckin podcast, he can burn in hell, i don't give a shit

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link

petty my ass

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link

not even gonna ask

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

Idk anything about brad’s friend but he is literally risking his life to report something that could bring down an actual, literal fascist. That kind of makes whether he had the exact right take on twitter on exactly how we should approach white supremacists (“defending” is a gross distortion) seem petty, yes. But, you know, online.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

he misgendered my friend while defending jesse singal, who writes transphobic garbage for the atlantic. i have no doubt that his work in brazil is important. thank god i can hate his guts anyway

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

i'm glad a chapo episode convinced you that we all don't have legitimate grievances against this shithead tho

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

fuck this dude can't abide his bullshit

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

Little bit of a different story when the authoritarian powered by fake news is in your own (new) backyard, huh Glenn?

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

right??

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

what/where is this important Brazilian reporting?

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

thanks

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

Little bit of a different story when the authoritarian powered by fake news is in your own (new) backyard, huh Glenn?

― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:08 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Bolsonaro is like several orders of magnitude more authoritarian than trump. Or at least their system
Allows him to be whereas ours still places some checks on Trump.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

or more that there's a system that could theoretically check Trump that, regardless of his efforts and bumbling, he can't significantly break down over four, or god forbid, eight years

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

Also FYI while I first learned of his recent story through Chapo, i also worked for a year on Lava Jato-related litigation and had already followed the larger story. So it’s not like I think it’s significant because Will M says so.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

he is literally risking his life to report something that could bring down an actual, literal fascist

And there are no Brazilian journalists reporting on Bolsonaro, which is why The Intercept is the only place one can go to hear about all the terrible shit going on down there. ¡Viva Greenwald!

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

TheIntercept is good on Brazil, but the idea that this somehow invalidates criticism of Greenwald is nonsensical. It's really not that hard to avoid going on Tucker Carlson.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link

no one..said that

k3vin k., Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link

"he sucks but also does good/worthwhile work on occasion" is really not that complicated a sentiment to hold in one's mind

Simon H., Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

Meaning, I take it, that criticism of him is not petty.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 1 August 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link

he misapprehended what shows to appear on and refused to apologize for it

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 August 2019 02:04 (four years ago) link


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