Who are all these people
― moose; squirrel (silby), Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link
Has Michael Tracey done/written anything particularly notable/worth reading? I feel like I’ve only become aware of him in the context of him going on Carlson to rant about russiagate.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:28 (five years ago) link
And half of twitter arguing about him, but I’m not clear why he matters.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link
None of these people have done anything notable. They could all be buried in the same avalanche at no loss to the world.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link
Not quite as baffling as the obsession with WASBAPPIN among people I follow on twitter but getting there.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:32 (five years ago) link
what is really bappin, is what we wonder
― mh, Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:36 (five years ago) link
Michael Tracey is a weird contrarian freelance journo,basically unfollowable on twitter because his hot takes are so annoying. His claim to fame is reporting during the Trump campaign and predicting Trump's victory.
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:40 (five years ago) link
Hes a russiagate critic
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:41 (five years ago) link
maxine waters apparently violently assaulted him by kind of nudging him out of the way once
― mh, Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:44 (five years ago) link
i'm glad i got something from this revive, another reason to like maxine waters
― cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 28 March 2019 04:20 (five years ago) link
Yeah she barely brushed him and he cried assault.
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 March 2019 04:49 (five years ago) link
I'm ok with Glenn generally, but going on Tucker Carlson to gloat about russiagate seems dumb. Nothing wrong with going on Tucker's show, and more people should do so, but only if you're going to actually use his platform otherwise you're just his useful idiot.
The Michael Tracey guy seems unhinged, desperate to make a bigger name for himself, or both. Not a person to be taken seriously at any rate
― anvil, Monday, 1 April 2019 20:23 (five years ago) link
Nothing wrong with going on Tucker's show, and more people should do so, but only if you're going to actually use his platform otherwise you're just his useful idiot.
How exactly is this supposed to work? It's well documented that if a Carlson segment goes poorly for him, he just won't air it.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link
If thats a reference to the Dutch historian thing, I thought the historian guy totally blew that. Tucker would have aired the clip if the historian had stuck to talking about taxation. His decision to launch into a full blooded takedown of Fox/Carlson was never going to air and he knew that, was playing to gallery for the retweets instead.
You don't need the segment to go poorly for Carlson to still get points of view across (taxation, anti-war, legalization, m4a or whatever)
― anvil, Monday, 1 April 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link
no one should ever go on tucker's show for any reason. i'm the final arbiter of this. thanks.
also glenn greenwald is perfectly indefensible. lock thread.
― bamcquern, Monday, 1 April 2019 21:29 (five years ago) link
wow the Taibbi/Greenwald obsessives have been busy today, so
Didn't see David Corn at the local co-op today. I half expected to find him in the parking lot, selling his Russiagate book out of his trunk.— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) March 31, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 April 2019 22:58 (five years ago) link
who
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link
say glenn greenwald is bottoming but he hasn't cleaned out. what should his last name be changed to? brownwald.
― cheese canopy (map), Monday, 1 April 2019 23:20 (five years ago) link
oh no
― mh, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 00:32 (five years ago) link
I've been 'letting that one sit' for a few days now
― cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 02:33 (five years ago) link
defend the indefensible: Dennis Perrin tweets
― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 05:57 (five years ago) link
greenwald might work as is, depending on health and diet
― say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 06:09 (five years ago) link
https://scontent.fewr1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/55897107_10157400363290530_820081055498240000_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-2.fna&oh=4236ce83f1b91f0adab371da274c0358&oe=5D0E28D1
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link
Kind of pissed that Carlson never has DJ Spooky on as a guest, they could debate bullshit IDM
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
illbient times
― mh, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link
Lol
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:28 (five years ago) link
xpost
http://condomadness.info/images/wealth-expo.jpg
― cold grey pantaloons (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link
(tbc i appreciate the intercept. that image just reminded me of the stuff you see on subway walls advertising these amorphous "leadership conferences.")
― cold grey pantaloons (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link
(also: pitbull)
I've been to one of those conferences, it was a nightmare. Bill Cosby gave a speech that was basically a long riff on "get off my lawn, kids". Somehow the only moderately decent speech was Colin Powell.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link
I honestly don't get why Greenwald is so ride or die to defend Trump from accusations of corruption. Today he's hammering on "the only thing those Resistance wackos are unhappy about in Barr's report is that he suppressed any discussion of the evidence that people working for Trump obstructed justice," which, um, yeah, why would that not be something to be seriously unhappy about?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link
This 100+ thread is a tough read:
1) So now we have self-described “progressives” like @ggreenwald and @mtracey telling us that the threat of white nationalism in the USA is “nonexistent” (as Tracey put it), and when called out for that GG chimes in and claims that we “needs be keep the threat in perspective.” pic.twitter.com/89CDRKzN1v— David Neiwert (@DavidNeiwert) May 20, 2019
― Frederik B, Monday, 20 May 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
but take a step back from inside the charred remains of this black church and—oh right you can't you're dead
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link
fuck this asshole
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link
Honestly the importance and impressiveness of the work he is doing in Brazil right now kind of makes most criticism seem petty.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link
nope
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link
He criticized the Iraq War once, so the defense of white supremacists is cool.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link
he misgendered my friend and refused to apologize for it and caterwauled about how unfair it was to him on a fuckin podcast, he can burn in hell, i don't give a shit
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link
petty my ass
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link
not even gonna ask
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
Idk anything about brad’s friend but he is literally risking his life to report something that could bring down an actual, literal fascist. That kind of makes whether he had the exact right take on twitter on exactly how we should approach white supremacists (“defending” is a gross distortion) seem petty, yes. But, you know, online.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
he misgendered my friend while defending jesse singal, who writes transphobic garbage for the atlantic. i have no doubt that his work in brazil is important. thank god i can hate his guts anyway
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
i'm glad a chapo episode convinced you that we all don't have legitimate grievances against this shithead tho
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link
fuck this dude can't abide his bullshit
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link
Little bit of a different story when the authoritarian powered by fake news is in your own (new) backyard, huh Glenn?
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link
right??
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
what/where is this important Brazilian reporting?
― rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
https://theintercept.com/staff/glenn-greenwald/
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link
thanks
― rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:08 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Bolsonaro is like several orders of magnitude more authoritarian than trump. Or at least their systemAllows him to be whereas ours still places some checks on Trump.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link