2020 Democratic presidential primary

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Beto married into a family that is extremely wealthy. He can stand on a dirt road but at the end of the day he comes home to a world where the first reaction to getting into a fender bender would be “oh let’s just buy a new car”

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:09 (five years ago) link

rich people thinking they are inherently qualified to "remake" public education, smdh.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link

Anyone else think Mayor Pete looks straight off a Kraftwerk sleeve?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 16:33 (five years ago) link

Autobutt

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 March 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link

Autobuttigieg for the People, surely

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link

Seems canny of Buttigieg to be building a profile before announcing officially, means the announcement might get covered as something other than News of the Weird

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link

Beto married into a family that is extremely wealthy. He can stand on a dirt road but at the end of the day he comes home to a world where the first reaction to getting into a fender bender would be “oh let’s just buy a new car”

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, March 27, 2019 10:09 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Inequality is a huge problem in the US and I stand with you in that I have no trust Beto is going to vastly improve the lives of the middle and working classes of the US. However I don't think his wealth should be a disqualifier, both Roosevelts were filthy rich and they helped the cause of the poor in tremendous ways.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link

eh alternately: wealth is disgusting

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link

wealth shouldn't necessarily be "disqualifying" but it should definitely be a source of much more direct derision and mockery

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:44 (five years ago) link

Not when properly redistributed.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:44 (five years ago) link

doubling down, inherited wealth is disgusting.

Yerac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:44 (five years ago) link

FDR had the lord of the manor's compassion that comes harder to a piece of beef jerky like Beto.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link

The people of Egypt were divided into 3 classes: the Priests, the
Warriors and the work people. The land was divided between the
Warriors, the Priests and the Kings and each had a 3rd of it. The
working people had nothing. They lived in the porches of the temples
or in little straw huts. The kings made them work so hard and gave
them so little that by wingo! they nearly starved and by jinks! they had
hardly any clothes! So they died in quadrillions!

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:46 (five years ago) link

(fdr age 9)

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link

fdr was widely reviled as a class traitor

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link

quadrillions of rich people hated him!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link

doubling down, inherited wealth is disgusting.

― Yerac, Wednesday, March 27, 2019 3:44 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I learned of this the other day:

One example that Leonard Burman of Syracuse University and the Urban Institute has suggested is to eliminate a provision of current law in which assets that increase in value can go essentially untaxed across generations.

If you start a company and its value appreciates over your lifetime, then it is transferred to a family member upon your death, no capital gains taxes are collected on those decades of appreciation. The family member gets to start over at its current valuation for capital gains purposes.

This “step-up” provision is one of numerous ways that families can accumulate great wealth with minimal taxation. It could be eliminated. Laws could be changed to make it harder to avoid the estate tax, which currently kicks in at about $11 million for an individual and about $23 million for a married couple

Needs to be eliminated asap.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link

exception proves the rule iirc
beto's exceptionalism quickly waning

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link

It wouldn’t be disqualifying if the number of wealthy populations was anywhere near the rate of wealthy people. But as it stands, almost all politicians are very wealthy compared to the people the represent. If Beto was just an outlier (among politicians) it would be one thing, but instead he’s just yet another super wealthy guy who is supposed to care about the economic problems of people he’s been out of touch with since he got married

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:29 (five years ago) link

Being rich doesn't give you any insight into public life or policy; I would argue the opposite. in terms of political engagement, it would make roughly as much sense if the only people who could take part in the process were 6'10" or taller.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link

we could have a yearly political draft based on their ability to get shit done. it couldn't be worse than the current system, except new york would still be run by de blasio.
SELL THE TEAM

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:33 (five years ago) link

I thought Beto's own family was definitely upper middle class (if not wealthier)?

Yerac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link

I’m sure they are. Otherwise he wouldn’t be in a position to marry someone with even more of a shit of money

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:57 (five years ago) link

a shit ton. Gotta get my units right

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:57 (five years ago) link

Not saying wealthy is good! Just that good policy making is good policy making (et vice versa) and I don't care if the person is rich or poor all I want is good policy.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:01 (five years ago) link

Beto ain't running up the score there either tbh

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:01 (five years ago) link

which means we should also clown him for being married to a charter school pirate

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:02 (five years ago) link

and I stand with you in that I have no trust Beto is going to vastly improve the lives of the middle and working classes of the US

― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, March 27, 2019 3:41 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:02 (five years ago) link

Ok totally on board with the clowning if one believes the policies are terrible.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:03 (five years ago) link

Is his spanish better or worse than Tim Kaine's?

Yerac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link

Can there be a Spanish-language primary debate this cycle, and can there be a high school Spanish teacher there to say "en español, por favor" whenever someone messes up

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link

there are no latinxs running for the dem nomination right?

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link

(kind of prefer latin@s but that seems to have gone out of style)

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:17 (five years ago) link

2020 Democratic Primary Candidates as @dril tweets:

— Mayor Senator Meow🎩 (@SenatorMeow) March 26, 2019

gbx, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:17 (five years ago) link

Siéntate, BETO! Siéntate!

Yerac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:18 (five years ago) link

(because he's always captain, my captaining even thought he's seven foot tall)

Yerac, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link

Beto O'Rourke https://t.co/M8Fw1i2FDg

— Mayor Senator Meow🎩 (@SenatorMeow) March 26, 2019

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link

McAuliffe reportedly circling

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:43 (five years ago) link

he can circle into a drain

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link

a world where the first reaction to getting into a fender bender would be “oh let’s just buy a new car”

That's a lot tamer than what his reaction is to slamming into a truck while on a 0.13 bender.

pplains, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link

Someone finally did a deeper dive into the ramifications of Harris' truancy laws

“We are putting parents on notice,” Harris said at her 2011 inauguration. “If you fail in your responsibility to your kids, we are going to work to make sure you face the full force and consequences of the law.”

Orange County heeded her call with particular enthusiasm. On the morning Peoples was arrested, police arrested five other parents — including several in front of waiting news crews — as part of what one assistant district attorney painted as an effort to prevent children from “being criminals or joining a gang.” The district attorney described Peoples’ conduct in unsparing terms, telling local news outlets she had ignored the school’s numerous requests for meetings and multiple warnings that Shayla was truant.

“The defendant was offered counseling and parenting classes,” read a press release from the district attorney’s office. “The student was provided the opportunity for a mentor through Big Brothers Big Sisters of Orange County, a mentor at school and monthly meetings with law enforcement officers.” Peoples never responded to those offers, it claimed.

Peoples read all this several days later in a state of disbelief. She has a soft manner and voice and has dedicated most of her adult life to caring for Shayla — who has lived with sickle cell anemia, a serious genetic illness that causes her acute pain and requires frequent hospitalization and medical procedures, since birth.

Shayla frequently missed school because she was in too much pain to leave the house or was hospitalized for long-term care. Her school was aware of these circumstances; it had records on file from the regional children’s hospital explaining that Shayla’s condition would necessitate unpredictable absences and special educational accommodations. Peoples and the school had worked together to set up some of those accommodations, which are required under federal disability law. At the time of her arrest, Peoples claims she was fighting with the school to get it to agree to additional accommodations under an Individualized Education Plan, which she said the school had rejected.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/kamala-harris-truancy-arrests-2020-progressive-prosecutor_n_5c995789e4b0f7bfa1b57d2e

Simon H., Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:37 (five years ago) link

thanks for the link -- sad and infuriating read

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 28 March 2019 01:05 (five years ago) link

there are no latinxs running for the dem nomination right?

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, March 27, 2019 4:16 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my mayor JULIAN CASTRO

(kind of prefer latin@s but that seems to have gone out of style)

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, March 27, 2019 4:17 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

x is non-binary inclusive whereas @ is strictly binary

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Thursday, 28 March 2019 01:41 (five years ago) link

as a Latino, "Latinx" has always struck me as the name of a Mexican synth pop act.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 March 2019 01:42 (five years ago) link

it would be a good one at that

the x is clunky when spoken tho it makes sense written.

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Thursday, 28 March 2019 01:47 (five years ago) link

I think I already discussed this but can we just say latins?

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 28 March 2019 02:30 (five years ago) link

A non-Latin friend winced in December when I said "Hispanics" in conversation casually. That's what we still use here, even the young 'uns.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 March 2019 02:33 (five years ago) link

i'm from the '70s, where the collective nouns were much wincier

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 March 2019 02:40 (five years ago) link

I think I already discussed this but can we just say latins?

― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:30 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Thursday, 28 March 2019 02:42 (five years ago) link


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