"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

some chat abt that ft article, the portuguese economy and how instructive an example it might be in the euro politics thread - Rolling European Politics Thread

The government will apparently be whipping against the business motion on the indicative votes - which means against the idea that the house will hold the second runoff vote on Monday - so nothing would come of this at all.

the party of no

LABOUR BREXIT LATEST: Jeremy Corbyn's spokesman explains that the party only supports a referendum on a "damaging Tory Brexit". If Labour takes power, he says, it will negotiate a better Brexit, which won't need a referendum.

There's that coherent Brexit position again which has absolutely nothing of the arrogance of May's deal.

Conservative party to be bankrupted by Brexit, too perfect https://www.ft.com/content/8e553444-4fe6-11e9-b401-8d9ef1626294

seems like that approach (1) contradicts what they’ve been saying for a while, (2) would demotivate its activists and (3) alienate a large percentage of its base

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That spokesman is always coming out with shit like that.

the negotiations are finished you dipshits, give it up

yes spokesman #1 did say something similar when there was the initial big brouhaha about labour’s Shift Towards Referendum

It doesn't actually contradict what they've been saying before, Corbyn hasn't taken Labour's own Brexit proposal off the table at any point.

I mean the indicative votes haven’t happened yet either.

If a GE was called tomorrow, Labour would campaign on taking Britain out of the EU, not a second referendum. But they'll whip for a referendum if it means defeating May's deal and preventing No Deal.

I don't personally agree it's the right course, but that's been the case all along and people have been selectively misreading it depending on what they want to believe.

"they'll whip for a referendum" - but what are the options on this putative ref2? where i get stuck is, how could a referendum both prevent May's deal AND no deal AND also not have revoke/remain as an option? barry gardiner has said only today that labour would not back a referendum that offered a choice between may's deal and remain. because that would imply that "we would allow a bad deal as long as the public had the opportunity to reject Brexit altogether. ... The Labour party is not a remain party"

New thread please?

Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

Bye thread, we’ve had some good times & some where I think I was implied to be a tankie?

(Posting here just to confuse Ned)

rip big man, heaven needed the thread before we had the chance to get this sorted

u will live on forever. cant believe it. I wanna run to u

this is absolute mockery of the people's will

hey thread do u need picking up in the morning pal