Remake/Remodel: DC Rebirth so you don't have to

i will be amused if we get a 7th Seal/Darkseid xover

Legion might come back following Doomsday Clock given some of the plot elements (Saturn Girl?)

I've read that Bendis has been teasing a potential return, as well...

"I'm sorry, BMB, but we cannot admit you into the LSH creators' club! Your powers are just too ordinary!"

This is my regular slot to wonder aloud i. Amazement that anyone at all still gives a fuck about the tedious old Legion.

Why is the Legion any more inherently tedious than any other DC thing that’s been around 50-80 years, and has been rebooted 4 to 10 times?

Because this whole game is about picking your arbitrary sides and giving other people's arbitrary sides a hearty round of the raspberries. The Legion? Pshaw! They're no L.E.G.I.O.N. '89!

L.E.G.I.O.N. '89 were no L.E.G.I.O.N. '90.

lol!

Like I admit it's somewhat corny to purport to depict what Earth and humans will be like in 1000 years -- but it's no cornier than Planet Krypton, or the Green Lantern Corps, or (shudder) "Superboy Prime," or a lot of other DC stuff. Trying to spin contemporary cool out of Golden Age corn is their thing, right?

(Or "Silver Age," I guess... in fact one of their first attempts at "coolness" was probably when they tried to ghettoize the Golden Age stuff back in the day.)

to be fair, I kind of hate all that other stuff you listed. But yes, the Legion just seems a particularly dated and tedious bit of nonsense. But I'm aware it's hard to justify this.

Karate Guy and Matter Eater Lad and crying inside

I think a Legion revival, if done well (and I know DC’d track record isn’t particular strong with that), could be cool & timely — because (among other things) the Legion has a large cast of characters, at least half of them women (depending on how Luornu is split at any given moment, LOL); and their interest lies less in their powers than in their relationships and interactions with each other. Plus, their world sits at a comfortable remove from the messiness of the present-day DC universe... at least until the demands of “making a new continuity work” intrude to f up their shit.

btw - I kinda like DC's intentions with a somewhat softer push on the New Age of Heroes line, which is largely a DC inversion of Marvel properties featuring mostly new characters introduced after <i>Dark Nights: Metal</i>. They're not all good, but I like that it was at least a creative push that was going for new books and characters and not just yet another universe reboot

At least Silencer (sorta-Elektra) was decent; Terrifics (Fantastic Four) and Damage (Hulk) were so-so. There's like three or more other books in the line I haven't gotten around to? Looks like they've already all been cancelled except for those first two anyway.

I think the Waid 'up yours, grandpa" Legion from (ouch) 2004 was pretty close to what you're describing, Morris - I remember enjoying it at the time, though after a while it just dissolves into soap opera again.

The Legion, when it's done right (so off and on before the last decade of pure suck), is a great super-hero book. Sadly, I don't think any of the minds in charge at DC have a clue how to make it one again.

Time to give Shooter a call, I guess.

13-year-old Shooter's LSH run was better than 24-year old Shooter's LSH; imagine how bad 56-year-old Shooter's run must have been

Shooter's return to the Legion, a little over 30 years from his previous run, was his first major published comic book work in years. His run on the series ended with issue No. 49, one issue before the book was canceled.

I certainly don't think the field would be any worse off if there were more thirteen-year-old comics writers.

Waid Legion was pretty decent but then crashed along with Infinite Crisis IIRC

Yeah -- I never read it, tho I know they were revealed to be from the future of Earth-Prime (in Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds).

Ha ha ha... I forgot about this:

Superboy-Prime begins to live in his fearful parents' basement while reading the last issue of Legion of 3 Worlds. He then turns and talks to the readers, insisting they knew he was meant to be Superboy before Conner. He then proceeds to troll the official DC Comics message board on the Internet, remarking "They'll never get rid of me. I always survive."

At the risk of getting too far off-topic, here’s some prime Shooter greatness:

http://legionofsuperbloggers.blogspot.com/2019/03/tos-adventure-comics-380.html

Based on Superman being fun and interesting for the first time in years, I wouldn’t mind Bendis doing the Legion.

I would (will?!) definitely check it out... my fear is book-length scenes of characters sitting around arguing in Legion HQ.

Last week was the most bonkers in DC recently. SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY.

Batman's drugged wet dream about Selina's hen party with Lois featuring robot Superman strippers, an orgasmatron, lesbian experimentation and DRINKING PARTS OF ACTUAL MOGO FOR SHITS 'N' GIGGLES was ... good?

The Trickster solving the problem of how to stop the Flash from running by AMPUTATING HIS LEGS was... something else.

I'm afraid to ask what "MOGO" is(?)

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Mogo

Thx

Make Oa Great Okay?

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Poor Sam Kieth! Just ring him, Batman!

LOL (also, wtf with that art?)

Batz needs a hug

(also, wtf with that art?)

is this your first encounter with Kieth post-1991?

LOL otm

Yes it is!

solomon grundy beats up ed mcmahon, with laugh track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzTgwV4i-0M

I didn't know where else to post this, so I'll post it here. My wife just asked if there's ever been a female Joker, and I remembered the one from Flashpoint, and vaguely recalled there was a pre-Crisis character called the Joker's Daughter... So I went to to look for info on the Joker's Daughter in the DC wiki, and found her page. So, she's called Joker's Daughter, event though she's not the Joker's daughter, rather than the daughter of Three-Face (not to be confused with Two-Face) and Jokester (not to be confused with Joker). And apparently the new 52 introduced a new Joker's Daughter, who's not related to the old Joker's Daughter, nor to the Joker.

No wonder so many people find superhero comics incomprehensible.

DC is basically an eighty-year-long episode of Who's Line is it Anyway?

It is later revealed that Earth-3's heroic version of the Joker, the Jokester, is the father of Duela Dent, and that her mother was Evelyn Dent, Three-Face (the Earth-3 version of Two-Face). She was raised by Three-Face and her stepfather, the Earth-3 Riddler, and together the three formed the Riddler Family. When she was finally introduced to her birth father, she dropped cryptic hints implying that she or her consciousness shifts unknowingly from Earth to Earth, which is the source of her parental confusion.

Confusion, you say?

Btw - isn’t Harley Quinn (not to be confused with Harlequin, the later alias of Joker’s Daughter I) more or less a “female Joker,” in all but name?

Yeah, she mentioned Harley Quinn, I was just trying to think if other examples.

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Bianca_Steeplechase_(Earth-37)

Earth-"8008"

she mentioned Harley Quinn

The Joker isn't a lesbian living in Coney Island with a zombie stuffed beaver and Glenn Danzig, and with a literal shit cannon on the roof to fire excrement at hipsters trying to gentrify surrounding boroughs.

Anyway, this seems as good a place as any to announce my imminent retiral from reading superhero comics. There are just too many bad ones out there, it's removed all the joy from even the good ones.

The problem with this is I was going to wait until the last issue of Doomsday Cock but who knows, with the publication delays on that it could mean a couple of years yet.

seems a shame to treat Copra like that just because of how DC and Marvel treated you for the last two decades

i think aldo's earned it

Man, DC is just tearing it up lately (where 'it' is the projection of anything resembling competence): https://deadline.com/2019/06/swamp-thing-canceled-dc-universe-1-season-1202628103/

So I hope you enjoyed Doom Patrol while it lasted, is my takeaway here.

Note: this was cancelled after one episode.

They got a tax credit of 48%ish on the first episode, realised after another nine that they were only getting 14% on the rest, hence suddenly stopping at #10 of 13.

Should have stopped at 9 in honour of The Great Ten

so apparently they dropped $85 million on nine weeks of this TV series, on an exclusive streaming service that nobody is subscribed to

imagine how many decades you could run an entire comics company on $85 million

that's literally seven Tundras

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