Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

well Google search results I guess it's proven

which one of the chapo bros should grow the howard stern hair

Matt can't.

I think whoever wants to pay for it

neither can howard
xp

By the time Chapo appeared the concept of several dudes in a room shooting the shit was a pretty well worn podcast format. Idk if we have to reach for Stern as a model.

this show has gotten back to being funnier again and the last few have been very good i think

Former ILXor on the pod tonight

him again!

Is he the first/only?

That was basically the platonic ideal of a Chapo ep

guess I gotta shell out $5, huh

reddit.com/r/blackwolffeed

I can afford $5! I just lapsed a long time back because I wasn't really listening that much.

guess that's a nice resource for the broke comrades or w/e though

The way I figure it is they make more than enough goddamn money and my 5 bones can go to Citations Needed or whatever

at least they pay Adomian for his appearances

I believe they pay all their guests.

Def one of the best eps in a while. Sometimes I run out of energy for their raging frustration at everything but here it felt very appropriate.

Also loved the Matt history tangents.

Coming in late here to mention that shock jock is different than morning zoo

Also that DSA HQ and Jacobin need to decamp the hell out of the NYC media sphere

Jacobin is mostly useless tbh (though they have good takes from time to time), Bhaskar's book seems downright embarrassing

I rarely enjoy Jacobin pieces, but I do give them credit for helping the "socialist revival" get going.

Bhaskar's book seems downright embarrassing

― Simon H., Thursday, March 28, 2019 10:56 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought this book hasn't even been released yet.

and yet

https://www.bookforum.com/inprint/026_01/20823

I threw Means TV a lil dough

Capitalism controls your entire life
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I wish they let Matt Taibbi talk a little more

Brendan James reviews The People's republic of Walmart and ponders the planned economy

A rich tradition of heterodox economics, mathematics, and computer science has materialized to answer this problem of calculation. But it is modern processing power, dwarfing the bandwidth available in the twentieth century, that truly rebukes the argument above. Consider computer scientist and economist Paul Cockshott who, in about two minutes, using only university equipment, claims to have run models that were able to optimize an economy “roughly the size of Sweden.” You get the feeling that the mammoth data centers at Amazon, Ford, or Foxconn might be capable of even more impressive calculations. And besides, to insist communist theory prove some perfect equation is either disingenuous or missing the point. The question is not whether planning is mathematically pristine, but whether it can allocate better than the market.

The answer, to return to the material world, is yes it can. It’s true that under capitalism firms plan internally but compete with each other, a dance that keeps companies innovating new ways to capture surplus and, sometimes, inadvertently benefit regular people. This dynamic would not occur naturally in a planned economy; one cannot just seize Amazon or Walmart, socialize it, and call it a day. Phillips and Rozworski apparently recognize this (there is an entire chapter in The People’s Republic of Walmart titled “Nationalization Is Not Enough”) and point to an interesting line of thought from economist J. W. Mason: Banks tend to operate as a privatized Gosplan, where the slush fund of finance capital flows to whichever firm a group of Brooks Brothers-clad planners decide deserves investment, regardless of profitability. Market competition, in other words, is hardly the divine engine of innovation if so many firms are, as Mason writes, “born new each day by the grace of those financing it.”

Even so, could planning replicate the market’s capacity to innovate? Ford’s former CEO Mark Fields certainly seemed to think so, declaring in 2016 that his company would soon “be able to use analytics to anticipate people’s needs, as opposed to people trying to tell us what they want.” And to the perennial taunt of the lizard-brained conservative—“I love seeing idiot millennials protest capitalism on their Apple-made IPHONES”—one may point out it was largely the market-immune Pentagon and Department of Energy, not Apple, that developed the batteries, algorithms, touch screens, and microprocessors our right-wing friend uses to tweet about the Muslim Caravan. Once again, none of this is to celebrate the actual decisions or practitioners of planning as it exists under capitalism, but to recognize its power and how else it might be put to use.

https://thebaffler.com/latest/stick-to-the-plan-james

read this by cosma shalizi if you are interested in central planning and computation http://crookedtimber.org/2012/05/30/in-soviet-union-optimization-problem-solves-you/

https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/nodeimage/public/blogs_2018/08/2018_34_control_room_obs.jpg

I always enjoyed the little detail that the Cybersyn consoles had holders for one’s whiskey glass

likely a stafford beer addition though allende was fond of scotch

Pareene was also on Trillillies (recorded in McConnell's home state)

Laughing hard at the notion that central planning and democracy can co-exist. Laughing even more that they can co-exist thanks to some algorithms that would dictate all distribution of all resources.

Laughing even harder at the ideas of pro-Marxists claiming that our governments should replicate Wal-Mart's planning methods to better market efficiency.

it’s true, marx was famously anti-automation

http://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/04f8e73a2e33f38293194faac1d4b4704d89b-wm.jpg?v=3

I'm in favor of panopticons and in favor of centralized cybernetic control of production

the government needs to promote ego death and self-abnegation

iirc the machines of loving grace cannot provide luxury gay space communism without full automation

I’m at a tech conference this week and a keynote included this weird-brag sidebar of “what if said this technology... is being implemented in a system to help keep a European country safe?” with the implication surveillance, movement, and activity data was going to be aggregated to predict if people were terrorists or something

the crowd got quiet and we’re all looking at each other and mouthing “what the fuck”

how very philip k dick

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/pediaofinterest/images/c/c5/POI_Season_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140628145335

Oh lord is somebody going to pull the “democracy means completely unregulated markets” thing?

adam otm

read this by cosma shalizi if you are interested in central planning and computation http://crookedtimber.org/2012/05/30/in-soviet-union-optimization-problem-solves-you/

― flopson, Wednesday, April 3, 2019 10:37 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm too much of a dumb ass for this but it seems interesting

I still can't stand to listen to the show itself (Jesus Christ, their personalities!), but I'm happy to see that the CTH subreddit has become the de facto nexus of push-back (since “resistance” has become such a fraught and overloaded word) against fascism and general right-wing shit-headedness on reddit. Military and police propaganda (videos of soldiers coming home from tour to "surprise" their kids and spouses, police doing cutesy bullshit with their dogs) no longer goes unchallenged, republicans role-playing as "centrists" and "libertarians" routinely get called on their bullshit. The CTH subreddit makes reddit a better place.

true facts stated

yeah the CTH subreddit is mostly good. there's a pretty broad left spectrum on there, but try-hard tankies are mocked, and they routinely brigade horrible right-wing subs and pester incels and Anime nazis. I support all of these activities.

also they routinely counter and make fun of every bad Amber take which is the correct approach