les rallizes denudes rfi

I have a legit 'Live 77' cd. I'll be happy to let it go for, oh, $400.

Watch for Les Rallizes Denudes & Yellow - Sessions at Fussa double disc. Also, I wasn't aware until recently that there were 2 Doyle/Mizutani trio shows recorded... Hiroshi Nar has been releasing a ton of stuff, including a live thing with Nishinihon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsBXLh-v_II&search=rallizes%20denudes

Seems to be some sort of Japanese TV arts show retrospective segment. Any Japanese speakers out there able to clue us in on who is being interviewed and what they have to say?

anger

Dug out 77 live for the first time in a while here. Yup, still great.

milton's link above is dead--i wonder what it was that got him angry?

probably typical VT price gouging and/or hyperbole.

I should spend some time with 77 live today.

perversely my favourite rallizes song is the acoustic kioku ha toi which i find myself humming on the regular. Tho sometimes Enter the Mirror, the Last One or Night of the Assassins takes its place.

In the past month I realized LRD are one of the best bands I've ever heard, just from the '77 Live album, which gets ten times better each time I hear it (especially on drugs). They have a few other releases floatin around too, like Yoda Go-A-Go-Go, which kicks fucking ass!!

Still one of my all-time favorites

Live 77 is indeed a classic. A pity that none of their other releases matches it.

Here's a quick blast of that, from youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HidM7vrL37E

At least I'm pretty certain it's from that disc, cut to film for wherever. Like to think it gives a feel for what it might have been like to be upfront. But LOUD LOUD LOUD and endless.

great band

I notice from this month's Wire that Phoenix records (whoever they may be) have (re)issued 'digitally remastered' editions of "Heavier Than A Death In The Family" and "Blind Baby Has Its Mother's Eyes". Limited to 1000 CDs each, and LPs are apparently forthcoming:

http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/shop/search.php?search=Les+Rallizes+Denudes

My copy of Heavier Than A Death In The Family doesn't play on any CD player known to man, so beware...

Phoenix = Radioactive Records

So I wouldn't believe that it's really remastered in any significant way.

heavier than a death is so fucking great, would love to own an actual copy, even on pheonix/radioactive

my copy of satori is on radioactive

heavier than a death is so fucking great, would love to own an actual copy, even on phoenix/radioactive

this sums it up. might wait for the vinyl

Ah if I'd known it was Radioactive I would've thought twice...can't imagine the vinyl pressings being great either.

Info on this guy : http://www.yogarecords.com/press/radioactive.html

Do those records *need* remastering in any significant way?!

needledropping is a kind of remastering

also didn't realise that Phoenix = Radioactive. if so, i wld say they've improved the quality of their product - i've got their reish of the Improvisation Sep. 1975 alb by Ichiyanagi/Kosugi/Ranta and it looks & sounds great.

man fuck James Plummer and whatever scam label he's running now.

plz read that link above if any of y'all are seriously considering buying these.

bought dreaded phoenix copies of heavier than a death in the family and blind baby has its mother's eyes today, with significant regret. but there is no way that i'm otherwise gonna get my hands on "real copies," and no way that anyone's making significant scratch off limited runs of obscure shit like this, nice vinyl and decent packaging at high-but-not-obscene prices. it's not undercutting any legit market that i can see; alls it's doing is removing some of the geek cache associated with the rarity. and for me, it's functionally valid. i mean like i have all these tunes on my ipod, but they don't fucking work there. i basically only use my ipod for shuffling and to get familiar with poppy new stuff. i don't want some blone out 20-minute drug drone reverb epic to come on when i'm biking to work. it's unsuitable. i want to listen to this shit when i'm bonding w/ the couch and reading comix in ur wee wee hours, and that's the point at which i'm spinning vinyl. vinyl is appropriate in this case wr2 my ancient mariner lifestyle patterning.

and i'm just making excuses, i know, but i don't see what the real harm is. like same with FTB's satori. it sucks that my radioactive copy is pirate bullshit, but it was fucking hard to find otherwise. i can't imagine that anyone got rich off jacking it, but lots of people got turned on, and that's all to the good, afaic. still thinking of picking up that german oak.

"people can choose" atm, !!!

still thinking of picking up that german oak.

Read this as "Listening to rallizes has made me so strong, I think I might pick up that tree over there!"

it's true, i did. my palms are now all sticky with the teutonic sap.

I need to mention that there have been a number of issues/re-issues of Les Rallizes Denudes stuff on the rather amazing Univive label. These are either newly discovered tapes or nicely cleaned up. They're really expensive multi-disc jobs w/ nice packaging & the whole works. They're also floating around on the p2p sites. Rumor has it that Mizutani may be involved in some way with this label, at the very least bestowing at least somewhat legit status on them. I understand that they are CDs, not CDRs. Some titles:

Mars Studio 1980

Laid Down '76

Double Heads

Black Rainbow

Double Heads 6CD Limited edition

Laid Down'76 again

One More Night Tripper

Cradle Saloon78

Great White Wonder

Wild Trips

Wild Trip In the West

I would also like to amend my earlier comments on my olde screen name re. the most intense guitar freakblast. It is in fact France Demo Tape, not Wild Party 1975. Let me just say: Holy f#%king shit!! My joy at having discovered this gem is somewhat dimmed by the realization that my quest for the ultimate gnarly skronkblast tsunami had perhaps ended. It grabs your head and makes a brain smoothie. Its a paint-peeling, wallpaper-yellowing, houseplant-killing, pet-epilepsy-inducing bundle of joy. If it were to take human form, just one of its sperm could wipe a badger's ass with Chuck Norris's nutsack. It could wad Chuck Norris into a ball & shoot him into low orbit with a slingshot fashioned from ox femurs & wolverine hymen.

@contenderizer: Very few of the Rallizes records were ever released "officially" in the first place. One discog I looked at listed only Live '77, their side of Oz Days, and the 7"EP as being official. That's 3 out of a zillion CDs & LPs that are in circulation! I'm not sure how accurate that is, whether "official" means self-released or what. I'm just pretty excited to have some of them, myself... :-)

also recommend Tachikawa December 17th 1976. Not sure what label its on. Good show, good sound.

Very few of the Rallizes records were ever released "officially" in the first place. One discog I looked at listed only Live '77, their side of Oz Days, and the 7"EP as being official. [...] I'm just pretty excited to have some of them, myself... :-)

yeah, that's how i feel. there's clearly a demand, so someone might as well meet it. hell, i've read that only live 77 and the single are really/truly official. who knows?

will definitely try & DL the france demo you mention. haven't heard it, sounds amazing.

i didn't 'rallizes' before that improvspirit was john b from oz days gone by...

any clues where i might find a dload of the france demo?

I think buying these versions of Les Rallizes stuff is not too objectionable. Pretty much the entire Rallizes catalog is bootleg and it was tolerated even before the digital file swapping era. On the other hand, stuff like the Flower Travellin' Band material being bootlegged/pirated is really bad news. Phoenix seems to be taking some of their cues from the Japrocksampler material. A few years after Krautrocksampler a lot of legit reissues of rare German records started showing up on various labels, to everyone's benefit. Would there have been the Kraftwerk re-masters or the Neu! box set without the interest generated by this book and other artists and writers turning people on to the stuff at the same time? I sincerely doubt it. One of the worst consequences of pirate operations like Phoenix is that they basically destroy any chance of a legit, licensed, decent-sounding official reissue by sucking up all the demand with their BS needledrop bootlegs. I'm appalled that Forced Exposure carries Phoenix's stuff. Anyone ever inquire about that? Sorry for the derail, this has been on my mind a lot lately...

"i can't imagine that anyone got rich off jacking it"

the guy sells to distros and stores ALL OVER THE WORLD. he's making money. i actually did bring this up to someone at FE. cuz i reviewed the search party album in my column and told people NOT to buy the cd but instead download it illegally until someone put out a legit one. i didn't get the cd from them, but they sell it. same guy who does radioactive/fallout has the xian psych label. i wish that FE would stop selling that stuff, but what am i gonna do.

hell maybe this is legit. never knew it existed. don't know the label either.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001M2IXAO/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000009GPX&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0TES9WCSCK40ZQBJVRDZ

i want that german oak album too. will not buy it if its that scummy guy's boot. would pay extra money for fancy legit vinyl.

I think buying these versions of Les Rallizes stuff is not too objectionable.

I object to the fact that one of the CDs I bought is a dud, how much extra does it cost this motherfucker to use a decent pressing plant ffs? So are the vinyl versions decent quality pressings then?

Merry-Go-Round Records (a division of S. Korea's Beatball Record) reissue of Montgomery Chapel is legit. mini-LP gatefold, repro'd liner notes, i don't know of any other. such an awesome album. holier-than-thou squares not taking drugs to make music for others to take drugs to.

in their first incarnation, Heavy... and Blind Baby... were already shameless boots, even if the pressed CDs gave them an air of legitimacy. so i wouldn't lose sleep over it.

Forced Exposure also carried the much-loathed Monk & Doxy labels.. Monk is expensive 'bootlegs' of old-time material without any liner notes & ugly packaging; doxy is more just straight bootlegs of stuff like hank williams & lightnin hopkins rarities. ugh.

tbh, if it were up to me i would not really even want to carry a lot of the phoenix stuff at the store, but we've had ppl coming in for weeks asking if we were gonna get those denudes rekkerds..

One of the worst consequences of pirate operations like Phoenix is that they basically destroy any chance of a legit, licensed, decent-sounding official reissue by sucking up all the demand with their BS needledrop bootlegs. I'm appalled that Forced Exposure carries Phoenix's stuff. Anyone ever inquire about that? Sorry for the derail, this has been on my mind a lot lately...

― FRESH MEAT (MFB), Friday, September 3, 2010 6:46 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

i see yr point, but don't know that this is true in the case of FTB. can't imagine that he sold more than a few thousand copies of that thing internationally. if there was ever enough interest to justify a legit reissue, it still exists. hell, i'd buy it again just to get right with god, and i imagine a lot of the people who bought radioactive/phoenix copies (hardcore music geeks, all of us, i guarantee) would do the same.

both the FTB and rallizes LPs sound excellent, imo. packaging sucks, but i have no problem with the sound or the pressing quality.

a lot of the time, it seems to me, a steady stream of bootlegs aimed at geeks does more to build up and maintain interest than it does to diminish it. but who knows...