Faith No More: most underrated rock band of the 90s?

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It's an empirical fact that you need yourself a massage with some happy ending, pal. Spring a few bucks, then come back here and start making some fucking sense.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

What argument? There's an argument here? All I see is someone who tries to use cheap insult to further an argument built on subjective tastes.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, that's it. Fuck you.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Kim = Rog?

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

took you long enough, rocket surgeon.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Weren't Faith No More lumped into "Funk Metal" at the time?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link

"an argument built on subjective tastes"

You just described every post in every thread on ILM, EVER!!!!

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link

took you long enough, rocket surgeon.

I wasn't used to you using a handle that wasn't already someone else's.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a wacky son of a bitch, dude.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah trolls. Good show.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, that's it. Fuck you.
I love it when you talk dirty, pookie.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Faith No More
-Innovative? Yes. Quite obviously. Mixing up a lot of song styles (more than just rap and metal) and structures in many different ways.
-Good? Nope. They didn't make any songs I particularly liked.

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link

who are all these people?? ps "Album of the Year" is the best one!!!

― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:25 (nineteen years ago) link

They ain't no Linkin Park

― artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:31 (nineteen years ago) link

This is definitely the worst thread ever.

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link

woode-mummas boosoom swell wit pride

― lukey (Lukey G), Thursday, 22 July 2004 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Christ, for a minute there I thought I'd wondered into some kind of crazy alternative universe where Faith No More paved the way for Linkin Park and Papa Roach. Thank goodness it was all a dream!

― Philip Alderman (Phil A), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Detachable Penis = King Missile is/was "mainstream"

― Knuckles the Dog (Knuckles), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:38 (nineteen years ago) link

And you were there... and you were there... and most of the Alex-s....

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:40 (nineteen years ago) link

horray for rap metal

― dude crazy?, Thursday, 22 July 2004 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link

"And you were there... and you were there... and most of the Alex-s.... "

indeed, for i am an alex as well!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I have to say that latebloomer is the only one making any sense here.

― Mike Salmo (salmo), Thursday, 22 July 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Nevermind FNM, you spongemonkeys! COP SHOOT COP!!!!

http://www.thepolywog.com/copshootcop/posters/images/livedemo-01.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Christ, I'd forgotten all about CSC. They were quite good, weren't they?

― Wooden, Thursday, 22 July 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Faith No More really pissed off Warner Bros., who wanted them to hit a formula more similar sonically to "Epic" (for which the milking for $$$ could occur), when they released Angel Dust, a ridiculously stylistic mind-fuck. Them playing "Caffeine" on whatever-that-show-was-that-TRL-essentially-is-now was really entertaining, if only for the stunned wtf? of the people in the crowd, who couldn't figure out how to dance to the parts in 6/4.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Dancing in 6/4 can be done, but it helps if one is having a seizure.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Mike Patton's lyrics are too fucked up anyway for them to have been super international mega major SHOOPAHSHTAHZ!. I mean, for fuck's sake, they had songs with titles like "JIZZLOBBER".

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, that Patton was a lyrical genius.

You Want It All
But You Can't Have It
It's In Your Face
But You Can't Grab It

Genius stuff, man.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

This is a joke, right?!?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, Alex in SF, Mike Patton's lyrical 'talent' is a fucking joke.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh good.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

dude he was like 18. everyone knows he got good around the time of Angel Dust. seriously.

― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

no chaki, clearly we are all ignorant dipshits who shouldnt be on the intarweb and should be busy burning all of our fnm cds and tapes.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Mike Patton has written lyrics in seven languages.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

FWIW

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Geordie Walker of Killing Joke briefly toyed with the idea of joining FNM after Jim Martin left. Then wisely thought better of it.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link

You seem to be fixated on KJ, Alex. Is the most recent album any good?

― Wooden, Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

You seem to be fixated on KJ, Alex.

Ladies and gentlemen of ILx...your understatement of the year!

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

You seem to be fixated on KJ, Alex.

BAhahahahahahahaha. Gosh, ya think so?

Is the most recent album any good?

Well, bear in mind that I'm a zealous fan, but it's better than it had any right to be, as far as I'm concerned.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

The drumming in much of FNM's music, starting on "Introduce Yourself" shares remarkable similarities with the intense tribal percussion found in Killing Joke's music. That was how I was able to turn a Killing Joke fan onto FNM actually.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

They were an eclecticism-as-whole-point-of-existence metal band who were no more eclectic than scores of metal bands before them ( not just led zep but, def lep, say, who mixed prog and rap and punk and pop much in much less clumsy ways than faith no more -- by which i probably just meaned they rocked harder and had a better singer and prettier melodies) but, like lots of artsy metal bands to hit the radio in their peak year of 1990 (jane's addiction, kings x, living colour, maybe soundgarden, maybe queensryche), they felt the need to act like (or at least SEEM to act like) eclecticism in metal was a REALLY BIG DEAL. that said, they weren't totally awful, i suppose. at least that fish flopping around on the piano was pretty cool.

― chuck, Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

But how many other metal bands have had #1 hits on lite-rock stations?

(I refer of course to their ridiculously popular cover of The Commodores' "Easy".)

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

What Lite rock stations did that go #1 on??? None where I lived. (Was it even a top 40 hit? If AMG wasn't so shitty now, I'd check...)

― chuck, Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

"at least that fish flopping around on the piano was pretty cool."

like i said, great dancer too (for a fish).

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

FNM have written some of the most interesting songs I've heard, and I've heard a lot. "Angel Dust" is probably one of my all time favorites, and I think it's an incredibly interesting album. Comparing any song on that album with Def Leppard's fusions of pop and metal is completely ludricous. But I guess in the indie rock/critical circles, admiring FNM, or considering them at all interesting, is heresy. Which makes me happy I don't run in those circles.

BTW: There are very few top ten hits in the FNM catalog. What universe was Angel Dust a huge hit? Sure, it had radio/air play, but that doesn't equal sales or Billboard chart climbing.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link

It seems that most of the attacks on FNM are based soley on "The Real Thing." People haven't been doing their homework. Is it normal to judge a whole band's discography by one highly successful album and a hand full of songs?

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

"Just a Man" on King for a Day.... is absolutely masterful.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

fnm are huge in south america, fyi.

ill out myself as an indie kid who loves faith no more. i got the real thing when it came out as an impressionable 10 year old. I didnt like everything on it, but thought it was pretty cool. I also picked up angel dust when that one came out but remember hating the shit out of it. it grew on me as i got older, obviously and i think its their crowning achievment, artistically. they kinda fell apart after all of the lineup changes, but like alex says, king for a day has a handfull of good songs on it and album of the year did as well.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Lemme just say for the rekkid that I am not nor have I ever been an especially huge FNM fan, but they did have select moments of brilliance (that's right: brilliance). Like Patton's other project at the time, though, MR.BUNGLE, their patent refusal to stay pigeon-holed (i.e. a then novel hybrid of rap and rock) oddly led to their gradual downfall (people didn't want them to branch out). As a result, there are some criminally undersung moments in their post-Angel Dust career.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

What James has been saying is pretty much what I was trying to hit on when I started this thread. I maybe should have said 'most unfairly dismissed rock band of the 90s.' Wouldn't have been as punchy, though.

Angel Dust is in my all-time top 20. The progression shown from The Real Thing is just remarkable. I agree with Alex that they recorded amazing material after AD too. Album Of the Year is an incredibly focused and coherent record.

― Wooden, Thursday, 22 July 2004 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

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