I mean, what is it other than unbelievable? Reckless, gratuitous, pointless, dangerous? Ah, right, entertaining.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 23 March 2019 04:25 (five years ago) link
also, stylish, which it wasn't.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 23 March 2019 04:42 (five years ago) link
Sorry, I know I'm talking to myself here but and no offence is intended to anyone that liked it but... what's the intention in making a TV show about a female serial killer (which there are a notably small number of) and making it (allegedly) stylish and funny? FWB is a good writer but she had just started going out with a man that makes notably misjudged, but highly praised, serial killing/revenge "comedies" when she came out with KE.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 23 March 2019 04:52 (five years ago) link
a lot of notably's there.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 23 March 2019 04:56 (five years ago) link
Ugh, no, not the ‘woman takes on new partner’s interests by osmosis’ thing and BTW although she likes her job, Villanelle is better described as a contract killer.
― suzy, Saturday, 23 March 2019 06:41 (five years ago) link
how much were the books written in that tone? I haven't read them but got the impression they were 'irreverent' or what have you
― kinder, Saturday, 23 March 2019 07:57 (five years ago) link
No idea, but it’s worth remembering that until very recently, Luke Jennings was the Guardian’s very underemployed dance critic.
― suzy, Saturday, 23 March 2019 08:02 (five years ago) link
ug myself a bit of a hole there. ignore those posts, i was steaming.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:44 (five years ago) link
dug
ohhh, I didn't know who she was dating. something new to look up.
― Yerac, Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:49 (five years ago) link
although i've seen plenty of people in the performance writing/creating world partner off and whose work gets suddenly bad because both sides of the partnership start to agree with each other too much and privately clearly do so much more. that's what i was trying to get at, i think, but it's midsjudged up there. apologies.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link
xpost
i loved Killing Eve but actually just popped in here to say how wonderful this series of Fleabag is. It’s touching and funny and really really smart.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:52 (five years ago) link
and the performances and script are better than ever.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link
I'm rewatching s1 - the idea that she's talking to Boo is tempting but doesn't actually make much sense. In the pilot she introduces us to a bunch of characters Boo would already have known.
― Simon H., Sunday, 24 March 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link
what's the intention in making a TV show about a female serial killer (which there are a notably small number of) and making it (allegedly) stylish and funny
whatever the intention, it might as well be ascribed to Sally Woodward Gentle, who optioned the books and commissioned PWB to develop the adaptation. She's certainly gone for "stylish and funny" aproaches to serious and murdery material in the past.
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:16 (five years ago) link
I'm ashamed enough about those posts!
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:46 (five years ago) link
<3
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Monday, 25 March 2019 01:00 (five years ago) link
fwiw, Villanelle seemed styled rather than stylish. the pink puffy dress etc. is just a costume designer's project that would have been reigned in by a competent director.
again, saw 2 episodes so that might be bollocks.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 25 March 2019 01:06 (five years ago) link
but with regard to the theatre/tv binary discussed upthread, costuming of that sort the kind of thing you can do in the theatre.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 25 March 2019 01:09 (five years ago) link
or in a Peter Greenaway film.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 25 March 2019 01:10 (five years ago) link
I've just caught up and this season is tremendous imo
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 March 2019 23:57 (five years ago) link
Anyone still complaining about her poshness can STFU, tonight’s was INCREDIBLE.
― suzy, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:12 (five years ago) link
When I heard they were making a second season I didn't think it was a good idea. The first season seemed like such a neat open-and-shut story that it would be a mistake to try to follow it up. I no longer understand why I thought that.
― JRN, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 01:46 (five years ago) link
I feel like I could easily watch a hundred episodes tbh
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 March 2019 01:55 (five years ago) link
i'm not sure i could take a hundred episodes of that. you tune in expecting 30 minutes of quirky comedy and then she does her little monologue...
― koogs, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 09:43 (five years ago) link
she's too good for this creepy priest! it can't possibly end well, I just wanted her to get out.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 09:48 (five years ago) link
^
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 09:52 (five years ago) link
I was so disappointed in the priest at the end. I know I should have seen it coming, but fuck off
― stet, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 09:59 (five years ago) link
oh i haven’t seen the latest ep yet. will stay off thread. but yes he was clearly creepy.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 10:01 (five years ago) link
I was just relieved it wasn't worse, tbh.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 10:12 (five years ago) link
YOU HAD 1 JOB
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 10:15 (five years ago) link
If that’s creepy, I want more creepiness in my life.
― Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 13:08 (five years ago) link
kneel
― ogmor, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 13:52 (five years ago) link
just started watching this. 3 eps in. enjoying it. i think i've spotted a plot point - she is the one who had sex with her friend's boyfriend, that provoked the suicide/manslaughter incident
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link
Yeah that was covered in series one. I can't remember if he was Boo's boyfriend or just a guy she fancied
― paolo, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 10:25 (five years ago) link
My feelings exactly
― paolo, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 10:26 (five years ago) link
Anyone else think that this series is more of a drama than a comedy?
― paolo, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 10:27 (five years ago) link
iirc S1 took a real turn around ep 4 where it was clear that it was aiming to be more ambitious than "just" a comedy. this season that ambition feels baked in from the beginning.
Just remembering the moment in the first ep of this season around the restaurant table where literally no one in her family had realised that Claire isn't a lawyer
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link
i agree and i don't care. the first series was great, and this is even sharper.
― my future think tank (stevie), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link
I think the first series def tried harder to be a comedy (and succeeding). I'd say the new series is indeed drama, and that's great.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link
otoh I *literally* laugh out loud at this more than basically anything else that's on right now. her smashing the award within microseconds of handling it was sort of a hack gag but her performance and the editing completely sold it, for instance.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:47 (five years ago) link
― paolo, Wednesday, March 27, 2019 3:25 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh yeah sorry i was talking about the first series.
she does state that it was her boyfriend at one point
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
toh I *literally* laugh out loud at this more than basically anything else that's on right now. her smashing the award within microseconds of handling it was sort of a hack gag but her performance and the editing completely sold it, for instance.
My husband went, "Oh god, I can't, I can't, I'm sorry," and left the room when that happened.
― trishyb, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 17:57 (five years ago) link
I like the creepy priest.
― chap, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link
Like he's not that creepy is he? His advances are welcome? I mean, he shouldn't be a priest, but that's a different matter.
― chap, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link
It was creepy that he was turned on by her powerlessness and sorrow, and that he violated the sanctity of the Confessional to get off with her. I'm all in favour of priests having it away with consenting adult women, but don't make your move in the church, when she's just actually started responding to the priesty side of you.
― trishyb, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link
Yeah I guess. I didn't read it as him doing that in a premeditated manner though.
― chap, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link
this is an honest to goodness priest, not one of your protestant types?
I'm writing to the bbc
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link
Xpost Trishy's description reminds me of the semi-romance Carmela had with Fr Phil in The Sopranos. Now that guy was certainly creepy!
― . (Michael B), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link
I think I'd feel horrible rewatching just for that monologue, but now that you mention it, it's really is *chef kiss* bad
― mh, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link
I kept wondering if the part was written with Gelman in mind. I can't imagine anyone else in the role.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link
Yeah, he really goes for that energy. I kinda hated him in Lemon, though.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link
His greatest work remains 1,000 Cats.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
as per colbert interview, apparently gelman's agent was directly contacted by Amazon's casting people for the part and flew out to the UK the next day for filming.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link
anyways, my gelman love is always based around his work in Eagleheart which should've gotten him an honorary Tony and/or Pulitzer
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
Gelman is so good at being an asshole I kind of just assume he is one.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link
i totally just misremembered The Walking Dead and thought Gelman also played Gregory. Totally different actor.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link
I’m rarely shocked by anything on a show but when Fleabag shoved her godmother back against the wall in s1 ep5 it was really something. Not even a satisfying moment and just this really raw and believable thing. It also set up the moment of her punching Martin at dinner, since by now it was very much in character, and much later in terms of general show tone made the moment where Martin grabs her by the (cashmere) sweater in an aggressive threatening moment genuinely frightening.
― omar little, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:
ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31
If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:27 (four years ago) link