These New Puritans

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then it goes soft in the middle

no way! that inside the rose > trees are on fire > into the fire stretch is glorious

kolarov spring (NickB), Friday, 22 March 2019 12:42 (three months ago) link

After the first listen: As someone who was severely underwhelmed by all the singles, it really does work better as a whole, but they might have done that annoying thing where the first track is easily the best

like him hate us? Sure you are. Its in the cool aid. (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 22 March 2019 13:27 (three months ago) link

OK it doesn't achieve the huge step up in quality that their other albums did, but it is actually rather good. It sounds glorious at least, as expected. Stronger vocals would have helped but I can't complain too much.

like him hate us? Sure you are. Its in the cool aid. (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:29 (three months ago) link

This was both better and worse than I expected

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:46 (three months ago) link

Well it's not as good as Field of Reeds, that's certain. I'm still deciding how much the production carries this one

like him hate us? Sure you are. Its in the cool aid. (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:14 (three months ago) link

it absolutely pales in comparison but it's obviously shooting at a far lower target

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:14 (three months ago) link

Did they hire a new vocalist?

pomenitul, Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:24 (three months ago) link

file under useless/irrelevant trivia but i had no idea until i saw the albums credits that george barnett was married to pixie geldof. i remember seeing bob geldof at their show at the barbican in 2014 and wondering why he was there

kolarov spring (NickB), Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:17 (three months ago) link

really love this

nxd, Monday, 25 March 2019 09:40 (three months ago) link

Halfway into this and it's gorgeous

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 25 March 2019 13:58 (three months ago) link

Majestic. Best album I have heard this year, so far, I cannot stop playing it. It's so utterly Bark Psychosis, but in the best possible way. And that bass! That bass. Magnificent.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 23:51 (three months ago) link

(is that David Tibet I hear on 'Into the Fire'?)

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 00:21 (three months ago) link

yes

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 00:23 (three months ago) link

I have never listened to these guys before, but I really like the new album. Will be checking out the older stuff.

circa1916, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 00:26 (three months ago) link

This is great, but is it very short or is that my imagination? Seemed to be over as soon as I was getting into it

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 00:37 (three months ago) link

9 tracks and 40 minutes.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:34 (three months ago) link

I'm not getting Bark Psychosis from this at all, though; it sounds like TNP boiled down to an essence, for me. Possibly slightly too much; it's slipping by me without leaving an impression quite a lot, which may just be my life and how much time I can give to it right now. I feel like it's lacking some... drama? Or tension, somehow? A little of the oddness of the last two records?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:11 (three months ago) link

Seemed to be over as soon as I was getting into it

the last couple of tracks do seem to whizz by. has been on pretty much constant repeat on my phone when i've been out and about. feel weirdly emotional every time that 'where the trees are on fire' comes on, like i could be stood in the shop buying a toothbrush or whatever and all of a sudden i have visions of the impending apocalypse running through my head. one of the older songs on the record, iirc they closed with it both times i saw them on the field of reeds tour

xp

kolarov spring (NickB), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:19 (three months ago) link

I've listened to this three times now and I really don't get the sense that it's aiming less high than Field of Reeds at all. It doesn't feel like a giant leap into new territory like the last two I suppose, but if anything it feels like a distillation of them (in fact there are are songs here that feel like FoR superimposed over Hidden).

Talk Talk and Bark Psychosis continue to feel like lazy comparison points to me, impossible to imagine either doing anything like the cavernous bass on Beyond Black Suns, or the moment when the skittering breakbeats come in on A-R-P - in fact it feels like a much more *digital* album than the last couple, to an extent that those moments give us a slightly frustrating glimpse of a direction they could have gone further in.

But it's all just so lush and melodically involving throughout, both the last albums had insane highs - and there isn't a We Want War or a V (Island Song) here - but also long periods where your attention would wander a bit. There isn't a single wasted minute here.

(Also I thought Steve Reich was a lazy comparison point last time round but there's a burst of female vocals midway through one song which is straight out of Music For 18 Musicians).

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:51 (three months ago) link

I agree that this album feels more like a distillation rather than reinvention and I am perfectly fine with that because the result is gorgeous.

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:55 (three months ago) link

err, bark psychosis were fiends for the cavernous bass matt, absolute fiends i tell you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLOE7IyCGeQ

kolarov spring (NickB), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:13 (three months ago) link

also check out all the breakbeat stuff that graham sutton went on to do as boymerang

kolarov spring (NickB), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:13 (three months ago) link

Yeah tbh every time I've tried to listen to Hex I've ended up being bored shitless, I don't know what it is that refuses to click for me but I find it a massive chore and have never felt the urge to explore further.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:16 (three months ago) link

the EPs that BS did are crucial to an overall picture of them tbh - check out the final minute or so of the track i posted, thats the heaviness that they were known for at the time

kolarov spring (NickB), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:25 (three months ago) link

I think the lack of drama / tension I mentioned is the absence of a We Want War / V (Island Song). Like there isn't quite a centrepiece which the rest of the album can fulcrum around. Which it may not need in time, but both of those were 'wow' moments that carried the rest of the record through the first few listens for me.

Yeah, BP could do bass, and Graham Sutton absolutely has lineage with breakbeats. Still not really hearing BP here though. TNP are their own thing enough.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:28 (three months ago) link

Weirdly, the album I want to link this to the most in terms of mood/impression on me at the moment is the new Apparat.

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:36 (three months ago) link

huh I had no idea that was out already

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:44 (three months ago) link

Hitting the spot this evening. I do get the Bark Psychosis comparisons (there's a similar metallic dampness to their sound) but I find them more consciously Romantic than BP. I'm getting first Guillemots' album vibes if anything.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:36 (three months ago) link

idk if they're more Romantic, Codename:Dustsucker is practically wandering about the Docklands composing stanzas about urban decay and frosty gardens

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:45 (three months ago) link

Perhaps I just mean pastoral?

Also, Codename:Dustsucker certainly covers off the Bark Psychosis + breakbeats angle.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:09 (three months ago) link

Matt should listen to C:D, it might be more to his taste than Hex. Certainly is to mine

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:17 (three months ago) link

Also cosign on We Want War and V (Island Song) being the grand realisations of TNP, although I'd maybe add Nothing Else in its own quiet monumental way

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:19 (three months ago) link

huh I had no idea that was out already

Just released this past Friday AFAIK

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:28 (three months ago) link

Tracks two, three and four are all quite tonally similar to the opener, which makes me feel like the album is quite samey; whereas FoR moves around a lot in the opening four tracks. I also think Fragment 2 is incredibly strong - as good as V - and nothing on ITR has a riff as strong as that.

Once you get to The Trees Are On Fire things change up; that track isn’t what I was expecting, and is stronger for it.

It doesn’t meander aimlessly as much as the middle of FoR though, which loses me for long stretches either side of Organ Eternal.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 22:18 (three months ago) link

Six is beautiful, and actually does remind me of late-period Talk Talk.

The first four tracks lack orienting moments for me, so far.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 22:22 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I've been really enjoying this ever since the release. Does anyone know if Jack has had some vocal lessons/training? His vocals sound much better and stronger than on previous albums.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Saturday, 13 April 2019 21:48 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Late to party but I don't hate his singing this time around and there's less clumsy late Talk Talk worship therefore This Is Good.

pomenitul, Saturday, 18 May 2019 16:36 (two months ago) link


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