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nb: Lou's personal archive is now at NYC's Lincoln Center library

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link

...movie stars arrive by limousine
The klieg lights shoot up over the skyline of Manhattan
but the lights are out on the mean streets

What's that Phish song that goes "Bag it, Tag it"? (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Todd Haynes Velvets doc to premiere at Cannes today

https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/05/todd-haynes-velvet-underground-doc/

city worker, Thursday, 16 May 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link

Guess the Haynes doc is still very much in-progress:

The long awaited authorized documentary of one of rock 'n roll's legendary bands is in production, and we are looking to you for help!

The Velvet Underground is calling on their loyal fanbase to hike up to those attics, dust off those boxes and dive into any treasured materials you have been holding on to for a moment like this!

Critically acclaimed director Todd Haynes and his team have been working closely with the band and Universal Music/Verve Records to uncover treasures to bring this film to life, but now we need YOU to make their story come alive in a way that has never been done before!

Since the band’s short career existed in relative obscurity in terms of major coverage by local and national television stations, we are asking you to help us portray the amazing, life changing experiences that occurred with this legendary group by sharing your beloved personal materials of the Velvet Underground including:

* Velvet Underground performance footage/photos
* Photos / home videos of you / your friends at a Velvet Underground show
* Ephemera/posters advertising the performances
* Newspaper clippings from your local print highlighting/advertising the shows

Important Notes:

Please do not send any photos or videos initially, only send us a short note telling us what you have available including the show date, and a general description of what you have (example: “May 26th, 1967 at the Boston Tea Party, 8mm silent footage shot and owned by myself”).

We must know what years the material was shot, what format it was shot in, and what format it is currently in. (i.e. 8mm, 16mm, digital, etc.)

Please let us know if this footage is a dub, original, edited, or a camera original.

Please let us know if you are the sole rights holder for the material.

Please let us know if you're capable of digitizing and uploading the material. If we use the material in the final film we will pay you a licensing fee.

Send the descriptions of your photos, audio, and/or films to us at VUdocument✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧, and we will follow up about reviewing your material. Thank you, and stay in touch!

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

Anything less than an in-depth Steve Sesnick interview and I'll be disappointed.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link

should probably be a whole errol morris steve sesnick doc

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

So many of the principals are dead now. At least we'll be seeing a lot of Doug Yule (I assume), for a change.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

speaking of doug!

Incomplete VPRO 1971 Soundboard Reconstruction: https://mega.nz/#F!WH5ilIwD!yGhP0vRxQSvhTEGBMx8juw

01 - I'm Waiting For The Man (Instruments Drop Out)
02 - White Light/White Heat (Complete)
03 - What Goes On (Complete)
04 - Cool It Down (Complete)
05 - Oh! Sweet Nuthin' (Complete)
06 - Sister Ray/Never Going Back To Georgia (Complete)
07 - After Hours (Announcer Speaks Over Track And It Fades Out Early)

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

hey Tyler, what's up with that gmail address on the press release? I can't tell if it's supposed to just be VUdoument@gmail or if I'm missing something, haha.

whitehallunity, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

"documentary" - ilx automatically obscures email addys

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

oh woops! yeah it's vudocumentary at gmail

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

Whoa, "Instruments Drop Out" indeed!

While My Guitar Gently Wheedly-Wheedly-Wheedly-Weeps (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

thanks! I've got some newspaper coverage photos from an EPI show that I figured I'd send along.

whitehallunity, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

THE VELVET UNDERGROUND – THE COMPLETE MATRIX TAPES

LIMITED EDITION, EIGHT-LP VINYL BOX SET

TO BE RELEASED ON JULY 12

Box Set Includes 43 Live Performances Capturing The Band’s Legendary Stand At

San Francisco’s Fabled Club

“A historic set of high-fidelity 1969 recordings capture the band at a pinnacle of white-hot guitar jams and streetwise poetics.” “it’s one of the band’s defining documents” – Rolling Stone (4 out of 5 stars)

“Fascinating sound of a band stretching out” – The Guardian (5 out of 5 stars)

June 27, 2019 – The Velvet Underground toured extensively in 1969, but set up shop in San Francisco in November and early December for a series of 18 nights over four separate engagements, the first at the Family Dog, the rest at the fabled North Beach club the Matrix, opened in a one-time pizza parlor by Jefferson Airplane’s Marty Balin in 1965. Over the course of their residency, which began November 11th, the club’s four-track recorder, manned by owner Peter Abram from a booth at the side of the stage, was rolling through much of it.

The Complete Matrix Tapes captures the highlights of two nights – November 26, the day Richard Nixon authorized a bill to create a draft lottery, and November 27, Thanksgiving – as detailed in Rolling Stone editor David Fricke’s liner notes in the box set booklet.

Originally released as a CD box set, The Velvet Underground – The Complete Matrix Tapes (Polydor/UME) makes its vinyl debut as a limited edition, eight-LP, 43-track box set and will be available worldwide on July 12 and exclusively available in the U.S. through shop.velvetundergroundmusic.com.

These shows, taped several months after the release of the third, self-titled Velvet Underground album earlier that year, and before heading to the studio to record Loaded the following spring, featured the post-John Cale incarnation of the band, with newest member Doug Yule on bass and keyboards joining Lou Reed and remaining members guitarist Sterling Morrison and percussionist Maureen Tucker. Some versions of these performances, taken from soundboard mixes, were first issued in 1974 by Mercury Records as part of a double LP, 1969 The Velvet Underground Live, while other audience recorded versions released were taken from cassette tapes made by the late Bob Quine, a huge fan and, at the time, a St. Louis law student who later went on to play guitar for both Richard Hell and Reed. Quine was at a number of the shows during their stint at the club, and his cache eventually was released in 2001 as The Quine Tapes.

The Velvet Underground – The Complete Matrix Tapes features 43 recordings that have been mixed down directly from the original in-house multi-tracks, including the 18 tracks featured on a Super Deluxe Edition of the Velvets’ third album and nine previously unreleased performances marking the first time all the available tapes will be released commercially. As can be heard, the shows were intimate, and features early versions of yet-to-be-recorded songs like “Sweet Jane,” “New Age” and “Rock & Roll.” Set One includes previously unreleased versions of “Some Kinda Love” and “Sweet Jane,” while Set Two’s rarities include performances of “There She Goes Again,” “After Hours” and “We’re Gonna Have a Real Good Time Together.” Set Three’s highlight is the almost 40-minute-long “Sister Ray,” previously heard on the Super Deluxe Edition of Velvet Underground. Rare live takes of “Venus in Furs” (one on Set One, the other Set Two) and Set One’s “The Black Angel’s Death Song” (according to Fricke’s liner notes, the first time Yule had ever played the song) are also notable for their inclusion here.

Concludes Fricke about The Velvet Underground – The Complete Matrix Tapes: “On one hand, [it] is just two nights, in one room, in the life of a working band. It also has everything they aspired to and achieved on stage, every night, everywhere: the magnificent aggression and determined joy; the fictions shot through with truth; the lasting bonds established in almost total, commercial blackout. You can easily walk into the music and never want to leave – a perfect definition of both a great rock & roll gig and a history that keeps on giving.”

Track Listing:

THE VELVET UNDERGROUND – THE COMPLETE MATRIX TAPES LP BOX

LP ONE

Side 1

I'm Waiting For The Man (Version 1)

What Goes On (Version 1)

Side 2

Some Kinda Love (Version 1)

Heroin (Version 1)

LP TWO

Side 1

The Black Angel's Death Song

Venus In Furs (Version 1)

There She Goes Again (Version 1)

We're Gonna Have A Real Good Time Together (Version 1)

Over You (Version 1)

Side 2

Sweet Jane (Version 1)

Pale Blue Eyes

After Hours (Version 1)

LP THREE

Side 1

I'm Waiting For The Man (Version 2)

Venus In Furs (Version 2)

Some Kinda Love (Version 2)

Over You (Version 2)

Side 2

I Can't Stand It (Version 1)

There She Goes Again (Version 2)

After Hours (Version 2)

LP FOUR

Side 1

We're Gonna Have A Real Good Time Together (Version 2)

Sweet Bonnie Brown (It's Just Too Much)

Heroin (Version 2)

Side 2

White Light/White Heat (Version 1)

I'm Set Free

LP FIVE

Side 1

We're Gonna Have A Real Good Time Together (Version 3)

Some Kinda Love (Version 3)

There She Goes Again (Version 3)

Side 2

Heroin (Version 3)

Ocean

LP SIX

Side 1

Sister Ray Part 1

Side 2

Sister Ray Part 2

LP SEVEN

Side 1

I'm Waiting For The Man (Version 3)

What Goes On (Version 2)

Some Kinda Love (Version 4)

Side 2

We're Gonna Have A Real Good Time Together (Version 4)

Beginning To See The Light

Lisa Says

New Age

LP EIGHT

Side 1

Rock & Roll

I Can't Stand It Anymore (Version 2)

Side 2

Heroin (Version 4)

White Light/White Heat (Version 2)

Sweet Jane (Version 2)

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Thursday, 27 June 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

Hope they reissue the CD set at the same time. Or maybe I'll be able to get it used.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 27 June 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

marking the first time all the available tapes will be released commercially.

unless I'm missing something, the 4CD set has 42 of these 43 vinyl-box tracks

Ambient Police (sleeve), Thursday, 27 June 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

Hoping the CD gets a repress as well. But the vinyl is already out some places. Fuckin' stupid format for 40+ minute tracks.

Invisible (Noel Emits), Thursday, 27 June 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link

Or even 37 minutes.

Invisible (Noel Emits), Thursday, 27 June 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

agree 100%, I hate that

Ambient Police (sleeve), Thursday, 27 June 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link

What it lacks in convenience, it makes up for in sweet, sweet analog warmth. It's like if "Sister Ray" was a quilt.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 27 June 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

Quilter Ray still shouldn't be broken in two

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 27 June 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

crazy that the CD box is so expensive! just put that back in print, come on now.

tylerw, Thursday, 27 June 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

I didn't know it went out of print...prices are fucking nuts.

It should be reissued in tandem with the Miles Davis Plugged Nickel set.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 27 June 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

Glad I grabbed that CD box when it came out.

Any chance we'll see the '69 Dallas tapes as a copyright extension this year?

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 June 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

how does this compare to the Quine tapes? - that has foggy notion unless I am missing something and also just sounds generally wilder which means I vote Quine

clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Friday, 28 June 2019 08:43 (four years ago) link

I'm still kind of shocked when I remember that Lou Reed is dead. :/

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 June 2019 09:03 (four years ago) link

(xp) How do the Quine Tapes compare to Live 1969? I don't think there's any comparison, The Quine Tapes are worse sound quality than most bootlegs, these recordings are pristine.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Friday, 28 June 2019 09:16 (four years ago) link

Ugh, I ordered this because I know I’ll kick myself if I don’t... but I don’t really return to the Matrix CDs all that often because how many versions of Heroin and the languid Waiting for the Man do I need to hear in one sitting?

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 28 June 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

As many as humanly possible?

tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

otm

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

mmm that makes me remember that the best slow druggy version of that is on the Quine Tapes and is like 11 minutes long

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 28 June 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

(Waiting For The Man that is)

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 28 June 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

it's on the matrix tapes too! (same performance)

tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

oh right, jeez this shit is so confusing. there's two Sister Rays on the Quine box that are NOT on the Matrix tapes though, right?

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 28 June 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

yeah, it is confusing haha. there's the family dog sister ray and the ohio sister ray/foggy notion on the quine tapes that are not on the matrix tapes.

tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

(and tbh the difference in recording quality on that long slow "waiting" is so major that they are almost totally different experiences altogether for me. both are awesome).

tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

whoa -- even more Dallas 1969 footage (this time with sound!). still very brief, but amazing. and a sterling morrison interview!

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2019/06/28/lost-film-flashes-back-dallas-forgotten-1969-vietnam-war-protest-starring-velvet-underground

tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

!!!!!

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 28 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

that is just so fucking far out

budo jeru, Friday, 28 June 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

holy moley

Οὖτις, Friday, 28 June 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

So weird to see Moe & Doug on opposing sides of the stage, was that always their set-up in the latter years?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 28 June 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

The VU is good, but did The Nazz blow them away that day? Maybe it's my lack of coffee this morning...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 28 June 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

Holy hell. Thank you for posting that, tyler!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 June 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

erik "ez snappin" actually directed me to it ...

tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

I love how people are just milling around, hanging out, chatting, and I'm thinking, "BUT THAT'S THE VELVET UNDERGROUND! RIGHT THERE! YOU SHOULD BE FREAKING THE FUCK OUT!"

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 June 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

"who played at the protest?"

"some band from New York with a weird name, I forget"

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 28 June 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

"an old lady in a sweatshirt"

Οὖτις, Friday, 28 June 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

lol

budo jeru, Friday, 28 June 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

"but then later Dr. Heavy And His Blues Vagabonds came on and totally rocked, so it was cool."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 June 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

that vinyl box is half price on amazon france. or it was earlier today, anyway.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 28 June 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link


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