the letter ‘s’ is not capitalized in the titles of this film
― flopson, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link
Vanity Fair has a lukewarm take
― danbunny, Thursday, 21 March 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link
this movie kicked ass
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 01:46 (five years ago) link
i saw the illogical ending coming but as farfetched endings in horror movies go: it also kicked ass
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 01:47 (five years ago) link
this was decent. there's a 90-minute cut in my head that absolutely ruled.
― Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 02:21 (five years ago) link
acting uniformly strong, Nyong'o great, obv. Heidecker/Moss a hilarious double act and they were in it just the right amount.
― Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 02:24 (five years ago) link
lastly, Miriam Bale is otm here
I saw Jordan Peele compared to Hitchcock but, after US, it's clear Larry Cohen (with a budget) is a better comparison.— Miriam Bale (@mimbale) March 10, 2019
― Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 02:26 (five years ago) link
Coming to this with higher expectations than a genre film well-realized (mostly) will disappoint you.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 02:27 (five years ago) link
"A genre film well-realized" is the highest expectation I can think of.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 22 March 2019 02:34 (five years ago) link
larry cohen! that's a deep cut! used to sing "the stuff" jingle at school.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dLtSNlzanU
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 March 2019 03:11 (five years ago) link
The Larry Cohen that made Full Moon High? Because that is a fun little movie.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 22 March 2019 03:37 (five years ago) link
as per usual I concur w/ Adam Nayman
https://www.theringer.com/movies/2019/3/22/18277051/us-jordan-peele-review-get-out
― Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link
who writes the headlines for the ringer, i ask bc they're very good at making me not want to read anything beyond them
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:30 (five years ago) link
Adam's completely incorrect opinion that an unhappy ending to Get Our would have been better (for, I dunno, George Romero's sake) makes me distrust him on this movie.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 March 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link
in general I prefer my horror movies (and satires) to have downer endings
― Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
also whether or not you agree w/ him, his argument is a little more than "for Romero's sake" there, c'mon
― Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link
Interesting - I didn't really enjoy Get Out but the ending belatedly converted me. I thought "He's doing the Romero ending, that's nice but kinda boring" and was pleased it ended with a bit of kickass silliness instead.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 March 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link
can i start talking spoilers yet or would everyone rather i not
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link
give it a week at least!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link
ok done
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link
maybe i can vaguely allude to how enjoyable the musical cues are
#goodvibrations
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:16 (five years ago) link
Was going to say the same with the music cues. Really enjoyed this all around in a packed theater.
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
I should add that everyone I saw it with was head-over-heels for it.
― Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link
yes my preview audience went wild over it, laughing and clapping
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link
ooh illogical
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, March 20, 2019 8:42 AM
the low standards of horror fans in a nutshell
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link
thanks morbs
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link
I was going to see it any event, but nothing piques my interest more. (I've gotta find the right, off-peak time to see it; a big-deal horror film with a packed house is the last audience I want to be part of, even I understand the argument that that's the absolute best way to see such a film.)
― clemenza, Friday, 22 March 2019 18:44 (five years ago) link
It was the first time in a couple years I'd been in that situation, and I was out of practice.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link
I don't want to sound like a drudge--laughing and clapping (and screaming), great, I do enjoy that. Unfortunately, talking-talking-talking is usually part of the package.
― clemenza, Friday, 22 March 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link
Some stranger sat next to me and he was alternating between audibly whimpering and nervously looking at his phone. He even took a call at one point. (heard behind me: "Is this motherfucker on the phone?"; I so badly wanted to indicate that no, I didn't know this dude)
― Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 18:52 (five years ago) link
this movie was a hot mess, the basic premise was pretty interesting but it was over-explained to all hell, and worse, that explanation just didn't really make any sense. i would have liked it much more in a leaner and more ambiguous form. Also, I found the tone to be all over the place -- yeah, jokes can work in this type of film, but I found that they were placed poorly. They often undercut whatever suspense/horror was playing out. Still, there were a lot of good ideas and awesome sequences in the film - the opening funhouse scene was terrifying, and the good vibrations kill scene was pretty beautiful imo
― boobie, Friday, 22 March 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link
The matinee crowd today was cool, mostly quiet (rapt?) except for a well-timed "that's right!" after Adelaide's "I'll be the one making the decisions from now on."
― geoffreyess, Saturday, 23 March 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link
I really liked everything about this, not sure I see how any part of it was illogical. Most people won't go up the down escalator, right?
― geoffreyess, Saturday, 23 March 2019 00:41 (five years ago) link
This is the first time she's commanded a movie.
That she did.
Skillfully done rather than a rewrite-the-rules effort but I think most of us who have seen it and like it agree there. The implications of the ending (well, last fifteen minutes) are sometimes lost in the crush to get things done, but as I walked home I thought more about Nyong'o's acting choices as well as the initially-hidden beats of the script a bit more and I think it's really striking. It's not a Message On Our Times specifically, no, but it's got more to say about trauma as well as who gets lucky and who doesn't than I thought.
And it may not have been a downer ending on the small scale but the large scale suggests otherwise! Hell of a repurposing of that particular 1986 tidbit.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 March 2019 04:46 (five years ago) link
Oh yeah and interesting to see with a packed-out and fairly vocal crowd that I realized was probably generally at least twenty years younger than me. I kept wondering why people were more audibly spooked than I was but then it made obvious sense later.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 March 2019 04:47 (five years ago) link
Oh and: remembering how Peele rates Branagh's Dead Again means all the scissors stuff makes for an intriguing callback.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 March 2019 05:23 (five years ago) link
I don’t know... certainly was gripping, solid performances, one very impressive shot (toward the end - red Adelaide ECU frame right, Adelaide in BG), paced well, but the “message” here - there is one, it’s spelled out early on (“who are you?” “we’re Americans” - give me a break) - is too obtuse or simply not fleshed out enough to work. “US” double entendre, the MAGA red jumpsuits, people “rising up.” It’s reasonable to be disappointed by a movie that clearly sets out to say something and fails. No one but horror fans would care about this movie if it wasn’t made by the guy that did Get Out.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:29 (five years ago) link
I suspect the millions who made Get Out a smash thought it a reasonably well done horror film. They do well in the box office, you know! People don't think about messages. The far worse A Quiet Place was a massive hit last year, remember?
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link
but the “message” here - there is one, it’s spelled out early on (“who are you?” “we’re Americans” - give me a break) - is too obtuse or simply not fleshed out enough to work.
Just posted about the can't-miss symbolism in the Trump Films thread. I don't know, I think that's probably the best thing about the film (and Get Out). Peele is really talented, but I agree with the David Edelstein review I just read: the horror-film stuff almost holds him back--I find all that stuff a clever collage of other horror films at best, rather conventional at worst.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:36 (five years ago) link
Sure, reasonably well done - that is a disappointment after Get Out, and the crowd I saw it with was totally tepid on it. Not that everyone will go in expecting a new social horror from Jordan Peele (though I know many will), but the “message” in Get Out is fully integrated into its dramaturgy. The horror and the message are one and the same. That’s what made Get Out so powerful, and it’s a high bar. This one is so much more obscure & confusing frankly.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link
Would love to talk spoilers because I have a problem with a pivotal monologue and the ending
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 24 March 2019 05:16 (five years ago) link
I think this should be expected/assumed to be a spoilery space by now. Mark them with warnings if yer concerned.
― Simon H., Sunday, 24 March 2019 05:20 (five years ago) link
yes
― flappy bird, Sunday, 24 March 2019 05:22 (five years ago) link
I did not get what the final twist added to the story tbh
― Clay, Sunday, 24 March 2019 06:01 (five years ago) link
made clear the Tethered's behavior was a matter of nurture and not nature, for one
that said I sort of assumed the twist before it was made explicit
― Simon H., Sunday, 24 March 2019 13:01 (five years ago) link
Spoiler warning...To go back to the illogicality, though: if you've got mom and shadow-mom, and they spend the film going at each other, how, at the last minute, can you say that mom is shadow-mom? That doesn't work.
Another minor quibble. Before shadow-family shows up, mom tells dad that there have been all these coincidences anticipating their arrival. What were there, maybe three? The bible guy being taken away in an ambulance, okay, but the others were pretty weak: frisbee lands on a circle, clock shows 11:11...they're not even coincidences.
― clemenza, Sunday, 24 March 2019 13:28 (five years ago) link
This was my problem too.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 March 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link
i'm excited to watch it again
ending at the very least has at least caused me to think about this movie for days
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 March 2019 13:38 (five years ago) link
Spoilers-I guess the twist shows that there's no intrinsic difference between the characters and their shadow selves, but I agree the twist wasn't necessary to drive this home. I've been trying to decide whether, if there was a message here, the twist strengthened or weakened it. I'm leaning towards thinking the movie would have been better without it.When the presumed-shadow mom said to the actual-shadow mom, "You could have taken me with you" doesn't a line like that have more resonance without them having been switched? I also would have liked it better without so much explanation, like that monologue at the chalkboard. (And while Lupita N'yongo was great, I found that voice difficult)
I thought the two most effective scenes were the opening in the funhouse, particularly where the girl spots her double from behind (interesting that this is what Rod Serling said inspired the TZ episode that Jordan Peele cites as inspiration for this) and the scene with the shadow family standing silently in the driveway, After that there was really no tension in the movie for me-and it was very early in the movie for the tension to be broken. It was still fun and entertaining, and the performances were all good.
― MrDasher, Sunday, 24 March 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link
if your explanation doesn't actually explain anything, better to just leave it totally ambiguous and leave the audience wondering imo
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link
does red know that adelaide knows it
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
my read has always been that they were young when it happened and their environments changed so drastically and permanently that they legit forgot the switch happened, idk
they stayed alive by eating the rabbits obviously but i don't particularly care that the exposition is stupid
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link
also adelaide was a kid when she transitioned into the outer world, she wouldn't necessarily know anything about the whole project
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
they both know they switched places that night. The tether who escaped sure as hell didn't know anything beyond that, she never visited the person she swapped with.
The tether has no idea what the real Nyong'o was doing below the surface all of those years, or how she organized the tethers to kill their surface overlords.
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:36 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
or, you know, this post, which nothing you've said contradicts shakey
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
yeah, it very much read like the tether had remembered events to where she was the victim. after killing the people in the friends house, she starts making primitive, animalistic noises after the act was done, same when she fights Red at the end. her son hears some of it and is actually scared of her in the van, it appears. sounds like she regressed enough that she remembered at the end of the movie that she was the one who swapped places.
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
and obv I know Hollywood always treats repressed memories in a very unrealistic way but who cares.
"why would the devil spin the little girl's head in The Exorcist, surely the girl would be dead as soon as the devil left her body, the same laws of biology apply!"
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
they legit forgot the switch happened
they both felt some kind of mystical connection during the dance, which is explicitly stated and is decades earlier than the main events in the film
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
one more time
Years after we met, the miracle happened. That’s when I saw God, and he showed me my path. You felt it too.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
I mean *they share a fucking soul* how much more connected could they be
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link
yes they felt some kind of mystical connection during the dance but does that mean they automatically know the entire context of the government project
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
or at least, that doesn't mean that adelaide does!
so yeah i'm finding more reasons for the exposition dump to exist
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
the entire context of the government project
government is not referenced
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
idk why I'm bothering tbh
i don't know why you're bothering either
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link
or why it matters that the government isn't referenced
as a specific point it doesn't matter, but I'm suspicious of any reading that isn't firmly rooted in actual details of what's on-screen.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
The fun thing about this detail is that if you eat a diet solely composed of rabbit you will starve to death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning
so they couldn't have picked a worse food source for their nonsensical plan!
― Number None, Friday, 20 December 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
thanks for that one cinema sins
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 20 December 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
and a merry christmas to you too
― Number None, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ef6b539e-4be2-4388-8d00-05251d9aee20
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 December 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
I loved the first 45 mins, and then spent the rest of the time alternately amused and exasperated. The middle part is definitely the weakest, as it basically becomes a home invasion thriller with this one kooky hook. The final reveal worked ok for me even if it doesn't entirely play fair with the lead character's childhood trauma.
― Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Monday, 23 December 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
it's a good home invasion thriller! also iirc the part where Peele gets to work more humour than elsewhere into the movie?
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 23 December 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
I loved this movie a lot and my takeaway from this thread is that I would thoroughly hate watching a movie with most of you
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link
I also have some incredibly unkind thoughts on subconscious bias as expressed in some of the complaints about this movie but they are possibly more about my interpretation of the complaints than the actual complaints themselves.
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link
(Primary being "the dialog was stilted" = "black people don't talk like that")
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
(I guess I do feel like going there)
thread revive got me all mixed up in light of other recent events. Jordan Peele threatening pre-emptive Iran strike, do I have that right?
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 6 January 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link
say what now?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link
this is the us politics thread not the us politics thread
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link
there's a broader melange of on-the-nose allusions: people wearing prison-style jumpsuits, chained and tethered and joined to each other, an underclass marked by this clothing and colour rising up
― glindr jackson (gyac), Saturday, 11 January 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link
Probably should start a new thread but
☁️ pic.twitter.com/iiDRwVLmbr— Jordan Peele (@JordanPeele) July 22, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link
And I just posted this in the "No" thread.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link
Hoping for a "Oh Hell No" director's cut.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link
NOPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUgmq_8PlRY
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 9 June 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link
Separate thread, my friendNope (dir. Jordan Peele)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 June 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link