Mike Trout needs his own thread

Smart guy, I'd say--happy where's he playing, big payday but not obsessed with the market. Compared to the three big recent signings, he could have held out for a lot more, I'm sure, either in fewer years or more money.

all that's true, but i'm sure the angels are very happy that he's a smart guy

Definitely. And if they ever get out from under the Pujols contract, they can go get him some help.

that WAR above seems very conservative...am I missing something? A decline in age 30 season to 4.1? His avg seasonal WAR (discounting 40 gm rookie season) is 9.1

GIven this projection (and assuming he maintains current avg in 2019/20) he would end the contract 12th in WAR btw Musial and Hornsby

Or I guess this is just what he would minimally need to do in order to justify the $?

I’m more interested in what his surplus value is w that contract

Or I guess this is just what he would minimally need to do in order to justify the $?

― heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, March 19, 2019 3:50 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

correct

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mike-trout-is-a-430-million-bargain/

The title is, if things go as expected, absolutely true, but it made me laugh anyway because every 538 title is constructed the same way, sports and politics both. They had that title ready to go no matter what he signed for.

trout's contract compared to others, with everything converted to 2019 dollars:

https://i.imgur.com/mbm4u8M.png
"I’ve included two Trout contracts below. The first is the $426.5 million figure representing the total value of the money owed to Trout; the second is Trout’s extension, assuming 5% inflation in the following two seasons."

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/mike-trout-leaves-money-on-the-table-again/

Those who call Mke Trout “boring” think the Karkrasians are celebrities. Trout cares about being the best, 3.9 or 4.0 to first, winning, being a great teammate, person, without need for celebrity or entourage.

— Peter Gammons (@pgammo) March 20, 2019

lolll

How exactly is the $10M/WAR number calculated? I always see these kinds of numbers but am never completely sure where they come from. Two win players are definitely not getting $20M/yr on the open market now. I'm assuming they look at every current player who signed via free agency and are calculating the average WAR they've put up over the length of their contract.

For example, take Albert Pujols' contract, he's making $24M/yr and he's averaged about 1.5 WAR/yr (I'm estimating) over the seven years of his contract, so that's $16M per win per year. Factor in all free agents in the same way, and you get to $10M/WAR.

If this is how it's done, I'm not sure I buy it. Is inflation taken into account? What about players who sign extensions that buy out their free agent years? Fewer big stars even reach free agency, and you could argue that the lesser players that do are increasingly overpaid, which makes WAR more expensive on the open market. etc.

leg cramp!

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26383539/trout-suffers-leg-cramp-escapes-serious-injury

holy cow I missed that massive contract he signed, goof on him

"I got a good raspberry," he said with a laugh

michael

"But it's all good now. I'm fine. Other than that, I got a strawberry. That's it."

MICHAEL

WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING IT DIFFERENT BERRIES

a raspberry is a Bronx cheer, he should know that

Trout just had one of the best series by anyone, ever. He was 6-for-11 with five HRs and six walks -- contributing to a 2.631 OPS, the third-highest by anyone in a four-game series in MLB history (min. 15 PA).

The highest ever was 3.111 by Babe Ruth in June of 1921 against the Tigers. He was 8-for-12 with six HRs and six walks in that series at the Polo Grounds. He also started and won a game on the mound in that series, striking out Ty Cobb.

The second-highest OPS ever was 2.850 by Mickey Mantle in July of 1962 against the A's, as he launched five HRs and walked six times.

christ

i watched most of the 2-HR game the other night, and like mookieproof i have no idea why anyone pitches to him given that lineup

AL player of the week for the first time since july 2015 (?!?)

that does not seem possible

TIE for #91, i repeat, TIE for #91

https://i.imgur.com/sA61B56.jpg
(tie) 91. Captain Beefheart - Frownland (1:39)
0.3672 points
5 votes

https://i.imgur.com/YqsqlKS.jpg
(tie) 91. Napalm Death - You Suffer (0:02)
0.3672 points
8 votes

the beefheart song is the first song on the countdown that i officially do not like

i have been getting into earlier beefheart recently, actually. but i do not understand what people are hearing in frownland

but beefheart wouldn't be beefheart if there weren't a bunch of people on the side going "i don't know what people are hearing in this", so i'm just playing the role

um

i am sorry

btw you all should check out this poll over here, it's great

Top 120 Songs Under 120 Seconds (ILM Poll #95)

I thought it was maybe a “trout” mask replica thing

Trout, Mike - replica jersey

he's so hot right now that he literally opened a wormhole in this thread

trout mask replica was my keeper league team name for a while, but nobody got it. i changed it to mike 'ehrman' trout.

this is my punishment for never getting around to voting

:-(

2019 injury roll/discussion

seems like it’s minor, thankfully

WAR is live on our site and (no surprise) Mike Trout leads the majors

His 1.8 WAR in 12 games would pro-rate to 24.3 WAR in the course of a full 162-game season pic.twitter.com/b2DrrKI6l4

— Baseball Reference (@baseball_ref) April 10, 2019

Trout Neck Replica

Mike Trout Walk Rate by season since 2014:
2019 - 26.5%
2018 - 20.1%
2017 - 18.5%
2016 - 17.0%
2015 - 13.5%
2014 - 11.8%

Teams are getting smarter apparently.

— Daren Willman (@darenw) April 11, 2019

at this rate his 2030 season will feature four at-bats

As with Bonds, though, is there not a threshold where you're now walking the player too often?

well he's slugging .938 so far, so it doesn't quite make sense to walk him . . . but it's pretty close

if there's RISP i imagine a .938 looks very walkable!

This is the setup Mike Trout gets on a 3-0 count in a tie game pic.twitter.com/xj91tTRCj1

— David Adler (@_dadler) April 25, 2019

Is Trout's drastically reduced strikeout rate--31 games, 16 K (against 31 BB)--an early-season fluke or a conscious change in his approach?

...or a conscious change in opposing pitchers' approach? He's on track to log 33 IBB's this season (previous high 25).

Is Trout's drastically reduced strikeout rate--31 games, 16 K (against 31 BB)--an early-season fluke or a conscious change in his approach?

― clemenza, Tuesday, May 7, 2019 8:23 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

honestly haven’t watched much of him this year but he struck out like twice in his first dozen or so games, so I’d bet he’s regressing back to near his normal mean

https://cdn-blogs.fangraphs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Trout-2019-Contact.png

from https://blogs.fangraphs.com/pitchers-plan-and-mike-trout-laughs/

attack trout on the outside outside outside corner, it’s the only way

it’s cool that he makes contact with 100% of the pitches thrown at his face

great article btw, don’t think I recognize the writer

Ben Lindbergh:

Because he’s stopped swinging at the toughest pitches to hit but still attacks the fat ones—Baseball Savant says he’s swung at 80 percent of deliveries down the middle, his highest rate in the five-season Statcast era—Trout has also kept increasing his contact rates to new seasonal highs, even as the league’s contact rate has continued to decline.

https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/6/21/18700398/mike-trout-los-angeles-angels-playoffs-war-mediocrity-500-record