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should i switch out my post-workout protein for something fancy like protein + a bunch of other stuff? or is it all hype? tbh I only work out 3x a week and my diet is not what it should be so idk how much it's going to matter, but i'm out of protein powder and need to buy some more anyway so

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link

no just eat better food

forensic plumber (harbl), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link

and have regular protein powder

forensic plumber (harbl), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link

ya that was my plan tbh

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

so I finally faced the fact that I need to buy size L shirts instead of size M -- I've definitely gone up a couple % in bodyfat, but it's clearly also due to swoleness.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 8 April 2019 03:42 (five years ago) link

I don't know what this One Punch Man anime thing is but I think I might try to do the weird challenge from this video. I am going to switch out the running for rowing though.

https://kotaku.com/dude-trains-like-one-punch-man-gets-buff-1833879480

Yerac, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 14:49 (five years ago) link

damn if it ain't me

Guy who never played sports and started weightlifting at age 29: Yeah vegetarianism is cool but as an athlete its just not sustainable for me, i find i need like 450g of protein a day or i get so fatigued at work when im Coding ,

— normal (@normal_now) April 5, 2019

goole, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 19:20 (five years ago) link

i am fatter now because i ate too much because i just like to eat. i will do better. i have been walking to the gym since stupid me realized it takes 13 minutes to walk there, just about as long as it takes to sit through all the lights and park in the garage. driving made me perceive it to be farther away. i also walked 2 miles yesterday but i ran 2 of the minutes. 2 of them. lol.

forensic plumber (harbl), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link

Is there a training style for lifting where you ramp up set by set, drop back down, and then ramp up again? I was sort of fucking around the other day and found this worked well for me on OHP -- I did a sets of 5 at 95, 115, 125, 135, and then went for 145 and could only do 3 reps, but for some reason I felt like I wanted more volume so I did another set of five at 115, another at 125, and another at 135. It felt good somehow -- the second set of 135 felt much easier than the first.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 21:29 (five years ago) link

if it works you should do it and give it a name yourself imo

sunday i saw a guy in jorts i'd never seen before. he decided to do some kind of deficit push-ups by pulling 3 benches together: one for his feet and one for each hand. he didn't die but i didn't feel this went well for him.

forensic plumber (harbl), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 00:42 (five years ago) link

It's just a pyramid and tossing in a couple sets at the end. It's maybe risky in terms of injury and won't have a lot of added value for muscle gains, but has positives in terms of aerobic and psychological gains, which (pace youtube squat brutes) have value. I would suggest increasing the number of reps at the lighter weights, even if that means decreasing the starting weight significantly. I start with 12 reps in the first set and tend to call anything under four reps a failed set for myself.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 06:09 (five years ago) link

if it works you should do it and give it a name yourself imo

sunday i saw a guy in jorts i'd never seen before. he decided to do some kind of deficit push-ups by pulling 3 benches together: one for his feet and one for each hand. he didn't die but i didn't feel this went well for him.

― forensic plumber (harbl), Tuesday, April 9, 2019 7:42 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

one of my favorite time wasters is elgintensity gym idiots compilation videos on youtube. Lots of stuff like this -- excessively baroque and ultimately stupid misuses of gym equipment.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link

Any tips for getting into the habit of actually going to the gym? I just can't get myself to get off my ass

Dan I., Friday, 12 April 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link

not really. going the first and second times in a while are the hardest. the second just because of the soreness. tell yourself you will do 3 things then leave. or that you will stay a half hour. remember you will never feel "motivated" to go. also i remind myself that i have never regretted going, only not going.

forensic plumber (harbl), Friday, 12 April 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link

all really good points.

make a protein shake in the morning from scratch. then if you don't go you'll feel like an idiot.

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 12 April 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link

remember you will never feel "motivated" to go.

I've been lifting for about a year now. I have been working out between 3-6 times a week except during a period of illness. For the most part, harbl is otm. I am forever like "oh jesus, do I have to?" and then going, working out, and feeling great afterward. It's only recently where it's just started becoming automatic without complaints for me: "ok, now it is lunch time off to the gym I go".

Start small and make it a consistent habit.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 12 April 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link

I used to do this weird thing where I could only wash my hair after I went to the gym. So, I really had to plan that out, because I technically need to wash my hair almost every day and felt weird going to work or out with dirty hair. I used to have very distinct goals and schedule in mind too so it wasn't like just not going when I didn't feel like it.

Maybe have a podcast that you really like but can only listen to at the gym?

Yerac, Friday, 12 April 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link

I actually have a whole bunch of tips on developing a gym habit, which I adapted in part from reading The Power of Habit. The principal is to eliminate as many "barriers" to going each time as possible so that it becomes more automatic.

1) The closer and more accessible to your home the gym is, the better. Ideally a few block walk if you're in a walkable area. The easier it is to get to the gym, the lower the mental barrier of leaving the house.

2) Find an activity you actually enjoy or at least don't hate, whether it's circuit training, spin, yoga, lifting, etc.

3) In the beginning, just making it to the gym and doing SOMETHING there is most important. If you're out of shape, the first couple weeks of workouts may be a little painful no matter what and you just have to get through them. But eventually you will develop more comfort with the exertion and be more able to get the endorphin rush of working out.

4) If you change at the gym, always have a gym bag packed and ready to go, like a go bag. If you change at home, always have a gym outfit readily accessible and laid out in view, socks, shoes and all.

5) If possible, put the gym on your calendar. Figure out in advance set times when you have no other commitment and it's easy to go -- could be early morning, could be work lunch. I personally do late night, although I don't recommend that if you can avoid it, since it's easier to cop out of a late night workout (for me it's the only time I can go and I relish it).

6) Set an alarm for those times on your phone, preferably with a separate alarm tone that you ONLY use for the gym. Immediately on hearing the tone, you grab your gym stuff and go. Pavlov. This will start to stick.

7) Immediately after your workout, eat something with a little bit of sugar in it. Not a donut, but maybe a piece of fruit. This creates a "reward" in your mind after the workout that you will come to associate with working out. Pavlov again.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:17 (five years ago) link

i vote for a donut

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link

man alive, those are great tips!

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

(boo-BOOO) It's the Seven Gym Commandments

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link

another thing i don't really do anymore but that has worked is you might establish a modest goal such as 10 or 12 times in a month and keep a tally somewhere. leave room for another goal for the next month. if only i could do as well with cleaning my house or other necessary tasks.

forensic plumber (harbl), Friday, 12 April 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link

this is good shit everyone

Dan I., Friday, 12 April 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link

As a weird side effect of my habits, there's a certain iPhone ringtone that to this day makes me crave teryaki from the teryaki truck that was in between my old gym and my old office, even though I haven't worked there in nearly two years

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link

This might not work for everyone

8) if you forget your gym stuff - go and buy a new set rather than miss the workout.

I’ve done this enough that pretty much all my gym stuff comes from the 2XU outlet by my old work. Luckily I haven’t done it too many times.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:35 (five years ago) link

Yeah I agree with that -- especially if it's just one thing like socks or your locker lock.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:42 (five years ago) link

i know everyone knows this but it bears repeating in the gym "motivation" conversation. for me, this is why the "i will do 3 things" is really effective if i have taken a week off and am suffering from no-gym inertia. i only choose basic things i find useful. it makes me hate it more if i do 7 things and one of them is calf raises. i will never have calves. i feel stressed and annoyed when i watch these moms working with the trainers at my gym (except the one guy who talked to me who does appear to do a good job). they have them all doing these boring unbalanced band exercises and planking forever. there's no way she's going to feel like she improved next time she comes back and you're doing another random thing. like, do some dumbbell benches and walking lunges and stuff that you will be better at next time you try it.

forensic plumber (harbl), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:57 (five years ago) link

Finding it extremely difficult to not give up entirely after making no headway on flexibility, falling back into the same patterns of plateauing after getting back into the gym, and now having to take at least two full weeks off to recover from septum surgery. Starting to feel like at 35 and with the mobility issues I didn't fix in time I'm never going to get past beginner numbers for my compound lifts and that feels like absolute dogshit

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link

whaaat you will do it if you lift and stretch. you will! i mean, probably. and even if you don't you'll feel better then not doing it at all, so..

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 22:15 (five years ago) link

took a break for about two weeks, lifted maybe 4 times therein. this week i'm going back at it with a daily split and last night i slept like 10 hours. i feel like 2 lbs heavier lol

cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 18 April 2019 03:16 (five years ago) link

nice!

goole, Sunday, 28 April 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

man, lifting just makes me so damn HUNGRY, no wonder I've gained this much weight -- I had 12 days away from it and my diet was just naturally so different. Day after first night back to lifting and I feel insatiable.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

homina

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

Yayyyy, I've managed to injure my shoulder again! Impingement or tendonitis probably. Hopefully I can DIY some PT off of youtube.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link

hey everyone, some exciting updates

I've switched from curl ups to pull ups, I can do more pull ups than I thought I could (that is, more than 0) and it's really tearing up my back muscles in a good way, i guess it is the lat muscles? like my lats have been sore from I assume the pull ups in a way that they have never been sore and it feels good to work them

also took everyone's advice and switched from 3x10 barbell benches to that reverse pyramid jawn where I do 12, 10, 8, and 6 and add 10lbs after each set. I also spent a LOT of time yday reading about regular bench and incline bench form, and feel like I'm "connecting" better and have a better understanding of some things (like how the angle of the incline bench is a matter of preference depending on how much you want to work the chest and how much you want to work the shoulders). also keep reading tons of conflicting reports abt regular grip vs suicide grip, and my conclusion is that suicide grip prob hits some muscles a little better and is very slightly more "optimal" but the gains aren't worth the risk of a 100+ lb bar falling on your sternum from a height of a few feet? yes? I admit it feels better to do barbell benches w suicide grip but it also just like.... scares me

I was also doing both cable tricep extensions and skullcrushers but have nixed the skullcrushers and replaced them w chest dips which also is hitting my chest in ways that feel good

next week I'm going to reincorporate deadlifts after several months off which I am also stoked about, I tried to do it this week but after waiting like 20 minutes for the bar to be free I just gave up

working out is fun

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:05 (four years ago) link

i love that feeling you get when things just click

i have taken 3 weeks off just because i want to. i've done some running.

forensic plumber (harbl), Thursday, 2 May 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

very exciting Steve!

cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 2 May 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

im fully obsessed w the clean n jerk

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 May 2019 02:59 (four years ago) link

and lasha is my god

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=vLooIbVjGnE

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 May 2019 03:00 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLooIbVjGnE

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 May 2019 03:00 (four years ago) link

he breaks his own world records here in both lifts and he does it by winning the competition w his first lift in both then breaks the record w the second and forfeits his third, gangster

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 May 2019 03:02 (four years ago) link

and u can tell hes not that near maxing out even, insane

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 May 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link

one interesting thing abt olympic lifting is the speed and how that relates to yr form, like im decently flexible in the squat i have good form and can get well below horizontal but what i realized is w an olympic lift because u have to get into yr squat almost immediately that yr effective flexibility only extends to where u start to feel any tension in yr form at all its where u start to stretch which is a wildly different spot than where u can get to slowly w some weight on yr back, so i have to be doing yoga to get more limber i feel, i did yoga today

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 May 2019 03:17 (four years ago) link

also i wld like to say that i think power cleans are a disgrace not even trying to get under the bar its disrespectful

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 May 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link

lifting makes me too hungry its a crisis

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link

Back into physical therapy, taking it seriously and doing every damn exercise every damn day, and switching from an all-heavy all the time powerlifting approach to a bodybuilding program that has higher volume (4x week vs 3, which works better for me motivation-wise) and more room for adaptability to specifically target my issues. Switched from low bar squat to high bar to exactly parallel with knee sleeves and it felt like the best/most correct sets I have ever done in multiple years of frustrating squatting (side note: Mark Rippetoe can eat my entire ass), Romanian deadlifts to work on my weak posterior chain, and chest-supported rows to avoid overtaxing my lower back. I'm feeling good about this for the first time in a while; it also helps that I have a date to work toward (a beach wedding in September).

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

giving you creepy high fives through the internet as we speak

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

Rippetoe has his uses but ultimately I have been moving away from him too. It seems like he’s oriented toward the only goal in life being to lift the maximum weight possible while developing a body that looks like a walking beanbag.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 23 May 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link

i guffawed

forensic plumber (harbl), Thursday, 23 May 2019 12:47 (four years ago) link


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