Led Zeppelin: Classic Or Dud?

Calzone Baby

Hollandaise and Confused

Douses Of The Mole

Zoso Bucco

I don't know, but I've been told, big-leg woman ain't got no filet of sole...

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Hot Dog

No Quarter (Pounder)

^ on French pressings, it's No Royale

Royale Orleans

Tangerine

Trampled Under Food

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=621&v=I2AcuXPrwnE

argh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2AcuXPrwnE

I don't much care for Led Zeppelin, so I don't think I've ever clicked on an LZ thread, but I'm dying at all the food puns from four months ago. Good job, all!

Put on your hair net and your morning gown
You know by night I'm gonna shake and bake'em on down

You need boudin
Baby I'm not foolan'

A friend recently sent me the clip of their Live Aid performance; it’s sure bad...

I come from the land of ice cream and sno cones

phil collins not a good idea xp

I don’t think Phil was to blame!

It's not Phil's fault! It's Robert and his bad singing, and Page and his bad playing/tuning, and Tony Thompson and his misplaced coked up aggression and a total lack of rehearsal, which Phil goes into in some detail in his book.

Cool clip H, thx for that

Walleye My Love

It's true the monitors were shot and Page's guitar hadn't been tuned...and Phil's 10x the drummer Tony Thompson is but he never rehearsed w/ them and he's so busy, it was just very off. I remember in an interview afterward they were kind of annoyed w/ him for not just holding it down

ha but as a kid I remember being too excited to really notice this much

The whole chapter in the Phil book is worth a read, especially about the transformation of his good friend Robert Plant into a raging asshole the closer the event came to becoming a Led Zeppelin reunion.

The bridge before the solo is where it really goes to sh1t

Of Stairway? He goes into that, specifically, in the book! It's down the the weird-ass timing of that stretch, which requires rehearsal to nail right.

'and Phil's 10x the drummer Tony Thompson"

huh? how do you figure?

Of Stairway? He goes into that, specifically, in the book! It's down the the weird-ass timing of that stretch, which requires rehearsal to nail right.

huh? how do you figure?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16OvXJ2kUZk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EWa_yV1JDE

or just...Abacab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeWaaAr1_lU

his playing on those Plant albums is awesome

seconded -- especially the debu

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Tony Thompson was obviously great!

Tony Thompson was (I guess like the other Chic guys) kinda a rock guy, but he more than the other two apparently always bristled at being labeled a disco dude and wanted to rock out. Which (plus the cocaine) partly explains the Live Aid debacle.

The crazy thing about Phil was that even as a solo star and a Genesis star he still toured as Plant's *drummer.* You can find a complete show on youtube, but the quality is iffy. Lots of clips of Phil backing people at those Prince's trust shows, though, like this clip backing Plant with Pete Townshend on guitar and Mick Karn on bass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2FHDW5Frwc

Or Collins, Brian May and friggin' Rick Astley:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcBKbu35nPo

And here's Clapton at his lowest backed by Collins (at his peak):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQrxeTD_BEM

yeah well the intro to "Some Like it hot," although futzed with by Bernard Edwards, is all time…he was the guy JP, RP and JPJ fucked around with in the late 80s to see if they could make a go of it…doubt that the fact they didn't is down to him…

The crazy thing about Phil was that even as a solo star and a Genesis star he still toured as Plant's *drummer.*

After Keith Moon died, Phil called up Townshend to offer his services. Pete turned him down at least in part because he couldn't imagine how Phil had time to be the drummer for the Who in addition to Genesis and his solo career.

I love the story about how, when Collins and John Martyn being neighbors and drinking buddies in the late '70s, Martyn was complaining about having to find a drummer for an upcoming session, and Collins volunteered. Martyn was like, "You play drums?!"

I want to say the story with Plant or Clapton was much the same, too. One of them owned a neighboring house, but they didn't really know who Phil Collins was or that he played drums.

Anyway, the fact that Zep didn't reunite with Thompson playing drums was of course at least partly down to Thompson, who was totally coked out and not a good fit. But of course it was also down to Plant and Page not being on the same, er, page. Here's a good piece on the train wreck, whose highpoint is undoubtedly Plant describing the abortive rehearsals as "David Byrne meets Hüsker Dü." (tbf, Shaken 'n' Stirred is pretty Heads-y at times, and def. new wave (Belew-Wave?) weird all the time).

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/led-zeppelin-reunion-fails/

fwiw in there:

For Thompson, the gig was a dream job. By that point, Thompson has already conquered the disco, dance and R&B worlds with Chic. He’d also recorded with many of the biggest names in rock and pop, including David Bowie, Mick Jagger, Madonna, Diana Ross and the Power Station supergroup with Robert Palmer and members of Duran Duran.

But playing with Page, Plant and Jones was different. “I grew up listening to Zeppelin -- they were my bible when I was a kid,” he told Modern Drummer in 2002. “Now, I assumed a song like ‘Rock and Roll’ was played a certain way. But when we started the song, Plant said, ‘No, that’s not it’ and Jonesy said, ‘It doesn’t go like that.’ (Original drummer John) Bonham had a way of playing that everyone thought was straight. You’d think ‘Rock and Roll’ is just a big two and four, but it’s not like that. It’s more like a Texas shuffle. ... Bonham was just so good. You can’t copy him."

What they lacked in decisiveness, direction and session time, it seems they made up for in carousing.

The foursome arguably spent more time in a tiny club in a little English village than they did writing, rehearsing or recording. The good times quickly turned into a bit of mess -- including a car crash and hospital stay for Thompson.

“Jonesy and I often chose to walk back to the place we were staying, at two in the morning. Pagey wouldn't come out, which is hardly the way to get everything back together again,” Plant recalled. “Meanwhile, Tony became a celebrity and was metaphorically earned around on everybody's shoulders. He ended up in one of these small mini-cars with five other people. They took a corner too fast and ended up in somebody's basement, went off the road, through some iron railings and down a few steps … . Tony was lying in the hospital going, ‘Oh, man, oh, man.’ So that was the end of him.”

Where do the accounts of Tony being snowblind come from?

(Original drummer John) Bonham

got it thanks

xpost Nile book iirc