Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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Also, I know this guy isn't exactly in the market for popularity contests, but a burly middle-aged man slapping and kicking a scrawny schoolboy is nagl.

Bielsa, Bub (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link

Now that is a very good white boy.

Yerac, Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link

So good, in fact, that he invites comparison with a dog.

pomenitul, Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link

Really wish the crowd had done something to stop that chokehold.

jmm, Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link

Minister David Parker confirmed that Semi Automatic weapons will be banned in New Zealand. pic.twitter.com/zVOAuyalZk

— Kenny Williams (@Ohheykenny) March 16, 2019

it's amazing what can be done when a country isn't run by NRA and populated with a bunch of angry people who are really into their right to organize into armed militias

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

I'm assuming the crowd were all his fash mates?

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link

I saw one of them named as a previously convicted Neo-Nazi.

gyac, Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link

love how after he's smacked in the head he keeps the camera up

This is what Fraser Anning’s right-wing lads did to the boy. #auspol #FraserAnning pic.twitter.com/sJNzRLppG5

— Paul Barry (@TheRealPBarry) March 16, 2019

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link

Really wish the crowd had done something to stop that chokehold.

well, and billing taxpayers $3k for him to fly business class to white supremacist rallies 2,000 km away from his constituents


Reminder: Anning received 19 votes, among 3.2 million enrolled Qld voters.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link

Wish we had some guys in our Senate with balls like this guy... https://t.co/9hLC4egexp

— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) March 16, 2019

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link

People need to stop with this ‘Anning only got 19 votes’ thing. That ginger fascist fuck and her mates got 250,000 first preference votes in queenland alone and well over 400,000 votes including preferences. Thats’s that many nazis and fellow travellers in Queensland alone, That’s a massive problem and this environment of closet fascism and acceptable racism is all to pervasive in Australia and the one that the shooter grew up in.

100s of thousands of people are willing to tick a box for rascists, anti-immigrant and out and out fascist candidates, many even members of the major parties (even labor has its legitimate concerners) and this is a major problem.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 16 March 2019 20:48 (five years ago) link

Agree. The "only 19 votes" thing is a misunderstanding of how the voting system works for the senate. You don't have to vote for individual candidates, you can just vote for a party list. And hundreds of thousands voted for the list on which Anning's name figured.

Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 16 March 2019 21:02 (five years ago) link

I did write four paragraphs about her, and the poison that coverage of her has normalised and spread. I'm noting that Anning keeps going to white power rallies in other states on taxpayers' $, not even the one where he sort of got some votes.

The parallels between her being kicked out of the party in 1996 for being too much of a racist nutbag but staying on their ballot, and Anning getting accidentally appointed in 2017 from being on her 2016 ballot, but declining to enter with her party (and then joining and getting booted from the Cut Snake party for being too much of a racist nutbag) are worth observing, I think.

(As is the fact that despite the horrendous fact of her getting herself as a full-termer and three half-term senators in on the Vague Racist Waffle vote from the double dissolution, she managed to lose FOUR of those three within two years, the double-up being within her own state. A lot of low-information voters and frothing racist arseholes alike are willing to number a box, but the swivel-eyed dickheads they're electing don't even have the competence to keep talking to each other, let alone to think about how to organise fascism.)

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 16 March 2019 21:23 (five years ago) link

multiple people reported wounded in active shooting incident on University Of Michigan campus

https://twitter.com/michigandaily

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 16 March 2019 21:31 (five years ago) link

retracted by source, see Twitter feed above

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 16 March 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link

All Nazis and Nazi-adjacents should have their jaws broken on an hourly basis.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 March 2019 23:42 (five years ago) link

I don't even mean that hyperbolically

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 March 2019 23:43 (five years ago) link

love how absolutely no people are trying to help the shitcunt

mh, Sunday, 17 March 2019 04:40 (five years ago) link

btw, Youtube's search/sort by upload date/search recent video isn't working because they're trying to think of a way to stop this kind of video going viral (even though it was on Facebook Live)

https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/2494861?hl=en

StanM, Sunday, 17 March 2019 08:31 (five years ago) link

also, this: https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/truth-behind-accused-gunmans-hand-symbol-in-court/news-story/b6654e20835dd6200117a69516ceed7f

Wrong. Look up The circle game, below the waist. it's a meme thing, he's won the game/made you look etc.

StanM, Sunday, 17 March 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link

You are arguing against the article that says it’s a trolling meme by saying no, it’s actually a trolling meme? Well trolled.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Sunday, 17 March 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link

oh- one of the local news sites here in belgium only mentions the white power bit

StanM, Sunday, 17 March 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

Man opens fire on tram in Utrecht

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47611811

stet, Monday, 18 March 2019 10:36 (five years ago) link

what's going on there? sounds like chaos

kolarov spring (NickB), Monday, 18 March 2019 12:43 (five years ago) link

It's surprisingly unchaotic tbf. A man shot several people in a tram, with one unconfirmed dead. The suspect remains at large but has been identified.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 March 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link

Three deaths, nine injured.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 March 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link

its something of a step forward to define as terrorism and not lone wolf activity, but I wonder if we would better calling it White Nationalist terrorism or White Supremacist terrorism rather than 'Far Right' terrorism (in light of "well actually the nazi's were far left' takes).

anvil, Monday, 18 March 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link

I take your point, but it risks downplaying the right's responsibility.

pomenitul, Monday, 18 March 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link

Donb't think Anvil wrote this in response to the Utrecht shooting (?), but anyway: suspect has been apprehended, motive seems as of yet unclear but more and more seems to be a 'personal' matter (the shooter aimed at his ex-gf, supposedly). They're not ruling out "terrorism", but it's increasingly looking like that is not the case.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 March 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

ty

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Monday, 18 March 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link

It’s never a bad time to point out that VAWG is a marker of potential terrorists.

suzy, Monday, 18 March 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link

LBI, yes sorry was not in response to Utrecht

I'd just been thinking about this categorization of white nationalist terror as far right, and whether its too abstract and less descriptive, leading to false equivalency ('far right violence, far left violence, what even is right wing anyay' obfuscation).

I also don't really know, to what level a large section of people even know what left and right even is. I went for work drinks recently, and someone shocked me by saying they were embarrassed to admit they didn't know what left and right wing is. This wasn't a stupid person by any means either, she just lacked the terminology. I think we can really underestimate peoples lack of education, and how abstract seemingly obvious terminology can be to many people. Terms like left and right were meaningless to this person, even though she instinctively understood. How easily labels can be used and misused if public doesnt necessarily grasp - which is the game the 'actually the nazis were left wing' people are playing. the rights ability to play around with this stuff was always something they were unable to do, until recently, theyve got a lot better at this, and fast

anvil, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 05:35 (five years ago) link

i suspect that the farther we get from WWII and the cold war (that is, the farther individuals get from appreciating those reference points reflexively) the less they might be able to clearly grasp the left/right distinction as one of ideology and not just a series of identity markers.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 06:25 (five years ago) link

On first hearing it seemed weird she didn't know the distinction (and she thought so too and was embarrassed), but my own perception of it is actually resting on answers to certain questions and the questions are changing. When I think of 'a conservative' in 2019, thats a different person to who I might of thought as 'a conservative' in 2013 (I guess I would think of conservatives today closer to the conservatives of the 1700s, and in 2013 I'd have thought of a conservative as closer to a whig - wrong thread to get into that, but I don't know if there's shared conceptions of what left and right mean - and framing white terrorism as far right might not work if the term 'far right' is being divested of meaning, or there is less of a sense of what that actually is)

anvil, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 09:02 (five years ago) link

i tend to think that they've outlived and out-extremed the label "conservative" and i make a habit of just subbing in the word "fascist" when i'm inclined to use the word "conservative" (at least when i'm referring to the contemporary GOP and their fellow travelers)

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link

Not a spree shooting but...

just a bunch of sheriffs shooting teachers with airsoft guns as a "training drill":

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/21/active-shooter-training-for-schools-teachers-shot-with-plastic-pellets/3231103002/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link

Fucking hell.

Simon H., Sunday, 24 March 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

You'd think all those "good guys with guns" just a few steps away would have stopped the "bad guy with a gun", just like the NRA keeps promising us will happen any day now.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 02:59 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

we've been "lucky" lately with two mass shootings and one possible attack stopped. the one in San Diego and the other in North Carolina would have been a lot worse if it wasn't for a jammed gun and a couple of quick-thinking people. The one in Long Beach and/or Santa Monica, who knows what would have occurred.

omar little, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link

This is going to come off as terrible but I'm not even sure which shootings you're referring to... Is this the numbing dread of violence/murder fatigue?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 2 May 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link

yes?

gbx, Thursday, 2 May 2019 02:13 (four years ago) link

tough to keep up with shootings in american media -- if it didn't kill half a dozen or wasn't in a house of worship, it's back-page stuff

it really requires an international news source to point out how fucking insane it all is

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 May 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

There’s been a school shooting at a middle school thats a mile and a half from my daughter’s middle school, and I’m sitting in a line of traffic waiting to pick up my kid, because that’s what all the texts are ordering me to do. This is America.

To be clear, it was not at her school, and she texted me herself, so I know she’s fine. But the guns gotta go I’m up for taking them away by any means.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link

it just takes leadership. these nuts respect strength. it's like smoking in restaurants and leaving dog shit on the sidewalk. it's just selfish destructive behaviour that no one will miss. you punish the shit out of it and everyone wonders how it was ever otherwise.

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

My other kid is friends with an 8th grader at that STEM and my kid txted him during this to check on him. that kid called my son back from the scene and advised him glass was everywhere etc wtf. everyone here is !!!

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link

god that's terrible!

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 22:11 (four years ago) link

Man. My older daughter just told me about this, and at this point I'm not sure I know what to tell her.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link


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