Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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on platforming leading to this: I've been saying for 23 years now that if it hadn't been a slow news day on September 11th, her nonsense would have been yesterday's chip wrapping if it was covered at all, and she would have wafted out of parliament without a trace two years later. she'd already been disendorsed before the election, ffs.

but instead, covering her like a clown show enabled her literally incoherent message to spread*, for Our Bannon and Our Manafort, the Davids, to see some comfortable coattails to ride and to bring half a notion of marketing to. within a year, what had gotten her kicked out of the White People Please party, though not off the ballot, had become public discourse. could Howard have gotten away with Children Overboard, and a subsequent 18 years of torturing and starving brown people for marketing purposes, without that shift? fuck no, imo. She even blamed her 2001 senate bid failing on Howard stealing her policies!

then after fifteen years failing to get back in, she figures out that nobody's frightened of Vietnamese invading / indigenous people getting reparations anymore, switches to claiming that eating kebab & chip takeaways is a plot to convert schoolkids to terrorism, gets into the Senate with a pack of nutbags so racist that even she cuts ties with them, while wearing a burqa into parliament to prove that all Muslims are terrorists.

Decades in the public eye without being able to construct a sentence, or to evince any policy other than "I don't like it," but she gets to keep getting TV and paper coverage because she's ostensibly entertaining in her stupidity.

And now Anning, with his 19 votes, gets to sit for five years on $200,000 pa doing literally nothing except issuing statements like this every couple of months.

* jfc what a warning

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 15 March 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link

Sadiq Khan OTM on Tory cunts, from 2:08 onwards.

https://www.channel4.com/news/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-i-wont-be-cowed-by-terrorists

Swing Band the Sailor (Tom D.), Friday, 15 March 2019 21:21 (five years ago) link

what a crazy idea

NZ PM just now: "Our gun laws will change."

— David Mack (@davidmackau) March 15, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 15 March 2019 21:25 (five years ago) link

For about 2 years I've been hailing NZ gun laws as an approachable first step towards gun law reform in the US. As I understood it, prospective gun purchasers must apply for a firearms licence, renewable at 10 year intervals. To be approved, there's a background check, as well as an interview and visit by a govt rep to confirm there's a gun safe on premises. Thereafter, those with licences would not ordinarily need add'l background checks before purchasing firearms.

And the historical record was enviable. Until last night.

Dunning-Kruger Overdrive (Sanpaku), Friday, 15 March 2019 21:40 (five years ago) link

doing literally nothing except

well, and billing taxpayers $3k for him to fly business class to white supremacist rallies 2,000 km away from his constituents

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 15 March 2019 21:43 (five years ago) link

oh look he flew 2000k to another state again

At Anning's rally today in Melbourne a supporter of his noted the Christchurch shooter was a 28-year-old and one of the "younger generation taking up the fight". Anning responded by saying the shooter was "a little on the crazy side, but yeah."

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 16 March 2019 07:04 (five years ago) link

if it had been, say, a hand grenade rather than an egg, we'd have all gotten our wishes

will take the egg tho

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Saturday, 16 March 2019 09:06 (five years ago) link

Multiple xps Sadiq otm. No doubt he’s tough as nails but he’s such a lightning rod for the fash that I honestly fear for his safety when you see some of the shit out there about him.

gyac, Saturday, 16 March 2019 11:31 (five years ago) link

vid merits preservation here or in alt right thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTtOuP1-rJQ

This kid is a hero. I love how after he's smacked in the head he keeps the camera up with one hand and jabs with the other.

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 March 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link

my ode to egg boy 🙏🙏🙏 pic.twitter.com/bpkIMrpAf9

— blerp (@proudlittlegoat) March 16, 2019

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Saturday, 16 March 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link

If you see the whole thing it's a truly brilliant bit of egging because he'd been standing behind him for some time, looking really blank and anonymous, like some random Joe who just happens to have been caught in camera - he didn't just barrel up, all eggs blazing. He bides his time, gets his phone prepared, and then very coolly eggs this hateful ugly moron. I'm lost in admiration for this young man.

Bielsa, Bub (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link

Also, I know this guy isn't exactly in the market for popularity contests, but a burly middle-aged man slapping and kicking a scrawny schoolboy is nagl.

Bielsa, Bub (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link

Now that is a very good white boy.

Yerac, Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link

So good, in fact, that he invites comparison with a dog.

pomenitul, Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link

Really wish the crowd had done something to stop that chokehold.

jmm, Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link

Minister David Parker confirmed that Semi Automatic weapons will be banned in New Zealand. pic.twitter.com/zVOAuyalZk

— Kenny Williams (@Ohheykenny) March 16, 2019

it's amazing what can be done when a country isn't run by NRA and populated with a bunch of angry people who are really into their right to organize into armed militias

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

I'm assuming the crowd were all his fash mates?

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link

I saw one of them named as a previously convicted Neo-Nazi.

gyac, Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link

love how after he's smacked in the head he keeps the camera up

This is what Fraser Anning’s right-wing lads did to the boy. #auspol #FraserAnning pic.twitter.com/sJNzRLppG5

— Paul Barry (@TheRealPBarry) March 16, 2019

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link

Really wish the crowd had done something to stop that chokehold.

well, and billing taxpayers $3k for him to fly business class to white supremacist rallies 2,000 km away from his constituents


Reminder: Anning received 19 votes, among 3.2 million enrolled Qld voters.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link

Wish we had some guys in our Senate with balls like this guy... https://t.co/9hLC4egexp

— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) March 16, 2019

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link

People need to stop with this ‘Anning only got 19 votes’ thing. That ginger fascist fuck and her mates got 250,000 first preference votes in queenland alone and well over 400,000 votes including preferences. Thats’s that many nazis and fellow travellers in Queensland alone, That’s a massive problem and this environment of closet fascism and acceptable racism is all to pervasive in Australia and the one that the shooter grew up in.

100s of thousands of people are willing to tick a box for rascists, anti-immigrant and out and out fascist candidates, many even members of the major parties (even labor has its legitimate concerners) and this is a major problem.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 16 March 2019 20:48 (five years ago) link

Agree. The "only 19 votes" thing is a misunderstanding of how the voting system works for the senate. You don't have to vote for individual candidates, you can just vote for a party list. And hundreds of thousands voted for the list on which Anning's name figured.

Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 16 March 2019 21:02 (five years ago) link

I did write four paragraphs about her, and the poison that coverage of her has normalised and spread. I'm noting that Anning keeps going to white power rallies in other states on taxpayers' $, not even the one where he sort of got some votes.

The parallels between her being kicked out of the party in 1996 for being too much of a racist nutbag but staying on their ballot, and Anning getting accidentally appointed in 2017 from being on her 2016 ballot, but declining to enter with her party (and then joining and getting booted from the Cut Snake party for being too much of a racist nutbag) are worth observing, I think.

(As is the fact that despite the horrendous fact of her getting herself as a full-termer and three half-term senators in on the Vague Racist Waffle vote from the double dissolution, she managed to lose FOUR of those three within two years, the double-up being within her own state. A lot of low-information voters and frothing racist arseholes alike are willing to number a box, but the swivel-eyed dickheads they're electing don't even have the competence to keep talking to each other, let alone to think about how to organise fascism.)

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 16 March 2019 21:23 (five years ago) link

multiple people reported wounded in active shooting incident on University Of Michigan campus

https://twitter.com/michigandaily

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 16 March 2019 21:31 (five years ago) link

retracted by source, see Twitter feed above

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 16 March 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link

All Nazis and Nazi-adjacents should have their jaws broken on an hourly basis.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 March 2019 23:42 (five years ago) link

I don't even mean that hyperbolically

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 March 2019 23:43 (five years ago) link

love how absolutely no people are trying to help the shitcunt

mh, Sunday, 17 March 2019 04:40 (five years ago) link

btw, Youtube's search/sort by upload date/search recent video isn't working because they're trying to think of a way to stop this kind of video going viral (even though it was on Facebook Live)

https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/2494861?hl=en

StanM, Sunday, 17 March 2019 08:31 (five years ago) link

also, this: https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/truth-behind-accused-gunmans-hand-symbol-in-court/news-story/b6654e20835dd6200117a69516ceed7f

Wrong. Look up The circle game, below the waist. it's a meme thing, he's won the game/made you look etc.

StanM, Sunday, 17 March 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link

You are arguing against the article that says it’s a trolling meme by saying no, it’s actually a trolling meme? Well trolled.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Sunday, 17 March 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link

oh- one of the local news sites here in belgium only mentions the white power bit

StanM, Sunday, 17 March 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

Man opens fire on tram in Utrecht

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47611811

stet, Monday, 18 March 2019 10:36 (five years ago) link

what's going on there? sounds like chaos

kolarov spring (NickB), Monday, 18 March 2019 12:43 (five years ago) link

It's surprisingly unchaotic tbf. A man shot several people in a tram, with one unconfirmed dead. The suspect remains at large but has been identified.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 March 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link

Three deaths, nine injured.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 March 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link

its something of a step forward to define as terrorism and not lone wolf activity, but I wonder if we would better calling it White Nationalist terrorism or White Supremacist terrorism rather than 'Far Right' terrorism (in light of "well actually the nazi's were far left' takes).

anvil, Monday, 18 March 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link

I take your point, but it risks downplaying the right's responsibility.

pomenitul, Monday, 18 March 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link

Donb't think Anvil wrote this in response to the Utrecht shooting (?), but anyway: suspect has been apprehended, motive seems as of yet unclear but more and more seems to be a 'personal' matter (the shooter aimed at his ex-gf, supposedly). They're not ruling out "terrorism", but it's increasingly looking like that is not the case.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 March 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

ty

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Monday, 18 March 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link

It’s never a bad time to point out that VAWG is a marker of potential terrorists.

suzy, Monday, 18 March 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link

LBI, yes sorry was not in response to Utrecht

I'd just been thinking about this categorization of white nationalist terror as far right, and whether its too abstract and less descriptive, leading to false equivalency ('far right violence, far left violence, what even is right wing anyay' obfuscation).

I also don't really know, to what level a large section of people even know what left and right even is. I went for work drinks recently, and someone shocked me by saying they were embarrassed to admit they didn't know what left and right wing is. This wasn't a stupid person by any means either, she just lacked the terminology. I think we can really underestimate peoples lack of education, and how abstract seemingly obvious terminology can be to many people. Terms like left and right were meaningless to this person, even though she instinctively understood. How easily labels can be used and misused if public doesnt necessarily grasp - which is the game the 'actually the nazis were left wing' people are playing. the rights ability to play around with this stuff was always something they were unable to do, until recently, theyve got a lot better at this, and fast

anvil, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 05:35 (five years ago) link

i suspect that the farther we get from WWII and the cold war (that is, the farther individuals get from appreciating those reference points reflexively) the less they might be able to clearly grasp the left/right distinction as one of ideology and not just a series of identity markers.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 06:25 (five years ago) link

On first hearing it seemed weird she didn't know the distinction (and she thought so too and was embarrassed), but my own perception of it is actually resting on answers to certain questions and the questions are changing. When I think of 'a conservative' in 2019, thats a different person to who I might of thought as 'a conservative' in 2013 (I guess I would think of conservatives today closer to the conservatives of the 1700s, and in 2013 I'd have thought of a conservative as closer to a whig - wrong thread to get into that, but I don't know if there's shared conceptions of what left and right mean - and framing white terrorism as far right might not work if the term 'far right' is being divested of meaning, or there is less of a sense of what that actually is)

anvil, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 09:02 (five years ago) link

i tend to think that they've outlived and out-extremed the label "conservative" and i make a habit of just subbing in the word "fascist" when i'm inclined to use the word "conservative" (at least when i'm referring to the contemporary GOP and their fellow travelers)

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link

Not a spree shooting but...

just a bunch of sheriffs shooting teachers with airsoft guns as a "training drill":

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/21/active-shooter-training-for-schools-teachers-shot-with-plastic-pellets/3231103002/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 21 March 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link

Fucking hell.

Simon H., Sunday, 24 March 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link


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