♫ Best Songs Under 2 Minutes poll - VOTING and CAMPAIGNING (voting closes March 31st) ♫

I just checked and it was nominated three separate times, possibly while cutting the duplicates you cut all of the noms, but that means there are at least four of us who were definitely gonna vote for it.

THEN FUCKING VOTE FOR IT

Cool, I will. Just making sure it wasn't thrown out on a technicality.

why i'm frustrated:

1) i have put in an enormous amount of my free time, in a very stressful time of my life (new job that fucking BLOWS), doing this. i know that others offered to help and that all of the responsibility for spending a bunch of time of it is on me.
2) i posted the nominations list several times in the old thread. other people helped me comb through it. i knew there would be omissions and mistakes anyway, and lord help me i knew there would be complaints. i thought that posting the nominations list ahead of time, several times, would help
3) i didn't want to change the nominations list / fix mistakes after starting this thread, because
3a) someone will then complain that they didn't know a song was added and it wasn't fair
3b) it will keep happening. 6 hours later, someone will realize that the greatest song of all time, which they clearly nominated, wasn't added. i will submit the pastebin file, then ask a mod to change all the references to the pastebin file in the opening post of this thread, then edit the google form to replace all the references to the pastebin file. then the next day someone will realize that another one of the greatest songs of all time that was clearly nominated isn't on there, and i will do it again. someone will offer to do it for me but i'd have to give them my google password, so nope.
3c) after doing all of that, someone will complain about some other shit
4) i pre-emptively apologized for all of this in my opening post and tried to come up with a backup plan to appease people: "there were weird issues, mistakes on my end, and i probably accidentally pissed off a bunch of people. if there is a sub-2 minute song that you adore and it’s not on the list, please vote for in the appropriate sub-poll. i am sorry. i really did my best. please try to have fun and not get overly concerned about an online poll."
5) i recognize the irony in me constantly asking everyone not to freak out about an online poll of short songs, while myself freaking out about an online poll of short songs. i am like the shaking with rage guy yelling "chill the fuck out!" at a room of frightened people. sorry

6) but if i DON'T add 'diamond day' to the official list of nominations, i can look forward to multiple people complaining about the low placement of the song in the results, because of course not everyone is going to wade through this thread and notice that it was added later. same goes for all of my other mistakes

conclusion: there a reason nobody likes to do this shit

sorry dan, sorry emil.y. you did nothing wrong, and if it wasn't you, it was inevitably going to be someone else catching a mistake. i hate my new job.

Hey Karl, don't beat yourself up about it. With 2000+ nominations it's inevitable that things will go awol in the copying and pasting. FWIW I think you're doing a great job and am really looking forward to the results in a few weeks time.

Yes, thank you Karl, great work and please don't sweating. Was just shoveling for the umpeenth time in the last month and this playlist makes great listening. Going to be very hard to narrow to 50 songs.

*sweat it

Karl, have you put in more hours than the length of the playlist? The QC process alone must have taken tons of time.

another minor quibble, but the steely dan song is called "Through With Buzz," not fuzz--not complaining karl, but posting a PSA for the CTRL+Fers who are looking to vote for the song.

From all accounts, Donald Fagen was--quick, someone point me to the "Jokes You Don't Want to Go Anywhere Near" thread.

this is such a cool poll, good work, Karl

Here's my campaign to avoid Naked City vote splitting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkrfVZGmLL8

What's the timezone for the deadline?

BTW the Little Richard song is the purest fire.

I'm still going through the Spotify playlist (in the closing stages) - apart from the wondrous Duck, which I'm sure you're all voting for, I've discovered some lovely things in Colonel Poo's punk-o-rama, notably this Oblivians song, my god!

I discovered I hate a lot of They Might Be Giants and The 1975

after taking a walk i realized two things:

- i want to apologize, again, especially to emil.y. i tend to get frustrated with myself when i make mistakes, and this is a situation where mistakes are inevitable. and i took it out on you. sorry, emil.y. not cool.

- i do want to avoid the dilemma and hassle of making a bunch more changes to the nominations list over the next few weeks because i want everyone to be voting on the same things. so how about this: i will make ONE more big update to the nominations list (adding in the vashti song, correcting the more minor mistakes that flopsy and others have pointed out (thank you for all of your help), etc. then i'll make a new pastebin list (i can't edit the original one because i don't have a paid account) and edit the google form with the updated link. i'll also ask a kind mod to please update the links in the OP on this thread as well.

it would be wonderful if people could help out by just checking their own nominations and making sure that there isn't any missing that obviously should be there. i really don't want to start a new wave of disputes about songs near 2 minutes. but if i made a vashti-sized fuckup, please let me know during the next 6 hours.

Karl, have you put in more hours than the length of the playlist? The QC process alone must have taken tons of time.

― that's not my post

it's...probably about 3/4 of the playlist time? would have been longer without the help of others in correcting things, that's for sure. there will be a lot of QC on the received ballots, too, unfortunately. i tried to make it clear that i wanted people to copy and paste each line in their ballot from the pastebin list, with no numbers/ranks, but the very first ballot i received was ranked with numbers, lower case, used definite articles inconsistently, sometimes "artist - track" and sometimes "track - artist", etc. so yeah, it's going to be a lot of fixing things like that.

i implore everyone to please, please just copy and paste from the list. when you don't do it, you literally are saying "hey you. you do the work instead."

What's the timezone for the deadline?

― Gaseous Clay (Leee)

honestly, just whatever your own timezone is. it's not like i'm going to be immediately working on the ballots at 12:01 am on April 1st, because that would be foolish, but i definitely don't want to wake up on april 1st with a bunch more ballots coming in, either

I've discovered some lovely things in Colonel Poo's punk-o-rama, notably this Oblivians song, my god!

^^^

Karl, should we let you know here or privately?

here is ok.

I couldn't find:

Regrettes - Juicebox Baby (1.51)

on the pastebin list under R or T (in case I entered it as The Regrettes), though I'm sure I included it in my first wave of nominations.

Thanks Karl again for amazing efforts with this.

Here is my promised playlist of otherwise non-steamable nominated songs by The Yummy Fur - 7 songs, about 8 minutes total

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1fmqf9vwPImj7O4D7FRmaUz98CsqCTXF

This song I nominated is on Spotify but due to their typo in the artist's name (two g's in Cambridge) it did not get pulled into the playlist. I also accidentally nominated it as "He's a Mover" (the wrong title on Spotify) instead of "He's About a Mover." ANYWAY, it's an amazingly fast, stomping version of the Sir Douglas Quintet original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6ejvbPE8_g

Karl: checked my nominations and only found two minor things, both of which can stand as is. One typo: the Accents song is "Ching a Long" (listed as "China a Long"). And two White Stripes songs are listed as "The White Stripes," another as just "White Stripes."

Something that just occurred to me: I'm really happy I nominated the Mendoza Line. (If you don't know baseball, the Mendoza Line, named after a famously poor hitter from the '70s, is .200.)

Won’t the best songs under 30 seconds subpoll overlap somewhat?

Nominations Change Log:

additions:

Vashti Bunyan - Diamond Day (1:47)
The Regrettes - Juicebox Baby (1.51) (wasn’t actually in the nominations thread, at least not that i could see, but since this is the *knock on wood* FINAL edit to the list, went ahead and added it. Spotify and Youtube both include the “The” in front.

Typo/definite article corrections:

Steely Dan - “Through With Buzz"
Accents - "Ching a Long"
Took “the” off of two White Stripes songs

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any other things that need correcting? as i mentioned above, this will be the final final edit to the nominations list. speak now or forever hold your peace. and in the event that you don't hold your peace, i will try not to be a total asshole this time in responding.

in about 30 minutes i will submit the new list as a pastebin file, post it here, edit all of places in the google form that refer to it, and ask a mod to edit the OP of this thread with the correct links to the updated nominations list.

ok, here's the updated nominations list:

https://pastebin.com/6d7NQGFc

KM: I should have checked the original thread to be sure that I did indeed nominate "Juicebox Baby" (and then just let it go if I didn't). In any case, thanks for that, and for all of the work you are putting into this poll.

no problem!

Won’t the best songs under 30 seconds subpoll overlap somewhat?

yeah, probably. but it seemed right to give the shortest songs their moment in the sun, especially since a lot of people thought 1:30+ songs were too long for this poll.

Camper Van Beethoven's cover of "Wasted" made the noms but not the Black Flag original >:(

lol this Earlimart song is a remix of a Blur instrumental

Loved the Family Fodder track just before it though!

I made a playlist of a certain subset of all the nominations, not stanning for any of them just a bit of fun, best effect if you skip each song after 1-2 seconds:

https://open.spotify.com/user/ledge/playlist/1uMkeSUpwlJHLzx1QkpyN9?si=LJOVMgCxQQOs0273IMaVkA

aka the Gerogerigegege playlist lol

Karl you must have missed the last batch of corrections I made in the nominations thread. One song is on there twice and I mentioned 'the' White Stripes and other splits with 'the'.

xp to imago,
I didn't know that about Earlimart (a band I don't really care much about despite nominating that song). Maybe you are mistaken?
Family Fodder is one of my all time favorite bands.

I am not mistaken. But it's a nice remix

hmm. now I'm thinking I was mistaken and it's just the same (unusual) instrument

ok, I approve of the Earlimart then :D

Not well known (the song, not the band).

What's the Use (Pretty Things, 1970)

Possibly a belated answer-song to "She's Leaving Home."

There definitely are some big similarities there imago. The thing that most intrigues me about the Earlimart song is when it hangs on the minor piano notes (from about 1:06 - 1:22) instead of finishing the sequence.

And since KM took the trouble to fix up the spelling, some great doo-wop from 1959 (of admittedly dubious sensitivity):

Ching a Long (Accents, 1959)

Contrary to the credits on the clip, it is "Ching a Long," not "Ching a Ling" (a point raised in the comments section). Seems to be listed as "Ching a Ling" all over the internet, but:

http://images.45cat.com/the-accents-i-give-my-heart-to-you-1959.jpg

I've just realised that I've forgotten to nominate something. Are we accepting write-ins?

u kidding m8

it's this haha a neural network wrote a christmas song

Sounds good! I should be able to do 20 tomorrow. And also 2 of the side polls.

did anyone vote for Morpha Too, because it is, no kidding my favorite Big Star song and among my all time favorite songs

This POLLS up to 11(9 seconds)

i am way too excited for this poll

Really looking forward to this. Most polls I have a pretty good idea what will win, but here I haven’t a clue. Could be a rock ‘n’ roll classic, amphetamine punk or one of a million GBV tracks. Whatever, sure it’ll be super entertaining.

I'm going to be super ill if neither of my top 2 make at least top 3.

Haven't a clue either. With the long songs, there is sort of a loose canon: "Marquee Moon," "Dark Star," Neil's long ones, Dylan's long ones, etc. I don't know if there's really a famous short song outside of "Her Majesty," and no way that'll win.

Well, I guess there are a handful: "Blitzkrieg Bop," too.

lol what was the Ramones average song length on their first couple of albums?

There are 15 songs on the first three albums under 2:00--"famous" is a relative term, but outside of Ramones fans (in which case they're all famous), I don't know if I'd count any of them as famous. The two songs from those first three albums I would classify as such, "Blitzkrieg Bop" and "Sheena Is Punk Rocker," both are over 2:00 ("Sheena" almost runs 3:00).

To answer your question: about two minutes?

Yah not many canon short songs under 2 mins which will make this rollout all the more weird and good. Hope it’s not just a ton of repeat artists tho.

not a ton, but there are some repeats - i believe the top 120 is made up of 104 different artists

Sweet!

gonna be a lotta votesplitting with some of these more-frequently-nominated artists I think, for better or worse

alright, please move your butts over here

Top 120 Songs Under 120 Seconds (ILM Poll #95)

woop woop

Thanks Karl, great work.

Also: I'm going to whine on here that none of the songs I like is going to make it, then I don't need to make a stink about it on the main thread. /ok, whine over

Yes it's started! My top songs were very idiosyncratic and probably don't have a hope in hell. I was good and limited myself to 3 GBV songs so I can only have limited blame if we get flooded with them