The Colombia/Ecuador/Venezuela Mess or Let's Place Bets on How Long Before the U.S. Backs a Colombian War With Venezuela

Unlike Rubio to get his facts wrong in tweets...

Lmao holy shit Marco Rubio is so dumb pic.twitter.com/HGR4TsM8GW

— liking online (@likingonline) March 10, 2019

There was a report in an Argentine newspaper a few days ago suggesting Pence had been assured by Guaido that half the army would switch sides as soon as the US recognised him as President and that Pence is now fuming that hasn’t happened, though I’m not sure how credible the source is.

Lol, I was just coming here to post that tweet.

Thought this revive would be for

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/world/americas/venezuela-aid-fire-video.html

It was.

Mobile ilx makes me even more of a dumbass than normal

Thread title makes it sounds like it some sort of fun ironic game to place bets on a potential war/civil war and I think it sucks.

i agree
none of this is funny nor is it idly amusing

It sucks but many of you are basically backing a lot of pro-coup rhetoric. I wouldn't worry about a thread title that was written years before this year's events.

Wanting free and impartial elections in Venezuela is not exactly backing pro-coup rhetoric, nor is it pointing out that Maduro's regime constitutes a coup itself.

The United States doesn’t need to invade the country. It just needs to target the bank accounts, Miami properties, and kleptocratic networks exploited by these corrupt Venezuelan officials

https://thinkprogress.org/venezuelas-kleptocratic-partner-in-crime-america/

Currently: imperialist mouthpiece cosplaying as news station MSNBC has the wife of Venezuelan opposition leader Guaido labeled as "Venezuelan First Lady" - which is categorically, undeniably false - on live national TV. The actual Venezuelan First Lady is legendary Cilia Flores. pic.twitter.com/35DvPsUIxY

— basura (@HalfAtlanta) March 27, 2019

maduro is going to allow aid to enter

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/world/americas/red-cross-venezuela-aid.html

Is this the time for Fred to shine? Reports of a coup under way (it's in The Guardian front page anyway)

Looks like it.

People on Twitter are dismissing. Tbh it's all based on a video from Guaido's account.

There’s about twelve soldiers. The idea seems to be to use it as a trigger to get people out onto the streets rather than actually being able to do much militarily.

marco_rubio_cumface.gif

Government claims it's under control, and I'm inclined to believe them. Does not seem as if the people has risen up.

Look at the baby cry

One of Venezuela’s best journalists reporting that today’s action was planned for another day, and had strong military support - but they had to bring it forward because Guaido’s arrest was imminent, and then the military backed out https://t.co/65PLT8tbLZ

— Brian Winter (@BrazilBrian) April 30, 2019

kinda feel like if maduro was gonna arrest him he’d have done it by now

well he definitely be getting arrested now so we'll never know

if that "strong military support" was really strong, it seems to me it wouldn't back out at the first hint of difficulty.

A lot to unpack in that tweet.

Just love how that was the top story in The Guardian website for the afternoon, whereas there was very little by comparison on Twitter -- and that what you got from Twitter was more accurate in the end.

it's a big story. is there another coup attempt going on that i missed?

Bolton and Guaido seem about as good at bringing peace to Venezuela as Kushner and MBS has been at bringing peace to the Middle East...

Well so far the 'coup' is a video of Guaido's saying stuff with a few soldiers in the background that was posted from his twitter. That isn't news, unless you mean there is something else.

xp to Jim

Are we sure they are soldiers, or are they just dressed like soldiers?

When I think of democracy the first thing that comes to mind is guns and tanks, yes. https://t.co/GUJ2wtzzIr

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) April 30, 2019

also the masses of the people on the streets around important centers of power including the ministry of defense and la carlota air force base.

https://s1.latercera.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/vene4-700x450.jpg

"nothing happening"

(or actually opposing groups of civilians confronting each other, national guard out water-cannoning people and shooting teargas. gunshots

Are these masses of people quantitatively or qualitatively different from the masses who were rallying for Guaido a couple of months ago?

Thanks Jim, literally it was just that video of Guaido for much of the time. Seeing a bit more now..

Looking at that tank running at ppl, and from that it looks like the coup attempt will fail..

Are these masses of people quantitatively or qualitatively different from the masses who were rallying for Guaido a couple of months ago?

― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:16 AM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark

guaido specifically directed his supporters to that specific air force base (and other places) and his supporters and chavez supporters are there clashing. the national guard is also there

el pais has live video streaming https://elpais.com/internacional/2019/04/30/actualidad/1556618727_875831.html

it's not very illuminating but certainly shows that events are taking place

Sounds like the same popular stalemate as before, with the armed forces still on the side of Maduro as the decisive make-weight. Maybe another Iraqi Kurdish uprising or Hungarian uprising of 1956 in the making?

If really Maduro cared about his people he would have at least have internationally monitored elections by now.

don't worry guys, america's best and brightest minds are on the case

don't worry everyone Erik Prince is gonna sort this out

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-erikprince-exclusi/exclusive-blackwater-founders-latest-sales-pitch-mercenaries-for-venezuela-idUSKCN1S608F

the el pais live streaming is interesting, in a low-key way. listless protestors throwing stones from behind the cover of a wheely bin, equally listless national guard firing tear gas from an overpass while their colleagues josh around in the background

no successful coup today.

Insta-conspiracy theory: Maduro knew the CIA would be sounding out military officers to participate in a coup, so he obligingly provided them with some.

VENEZUELA: US Secretary of State Pompeo tells @CNN @wolfblitzer that Maduro was ready to leave Venezuela this morning, but dissuaded by Russia - @kylieatwood

— Conflict News (@Conflicts) April 30, 2019

Genuinely impressed anyone could say that with a straight face.

Guaido's 'UK representative' has just repeated it - with a straight face - on Newsnight.

Maduro is very obviously working within the sphere of Russian’s influence.

Now I doubt with this military support that he will ever leave.

Lol doubt even The Guardian is saying this but you do you.

Maybe if I read this if I can get past the headline.

Former bus driver Nicolás Maduro clings to wheel in Venezuela https://t.co/UKri7OzEbx

— The Guardian (@guardian) April 30, 2019