As they aren't on Spotify I'll have to campaign for The Yummy Fur, one of my 3 favourite bands of all time and for some reason their entire catalogue is currently unavailable to buy or stream, except on youtube.Here is my first choice, a b-side from 96 called The Career Saverhttps://youtu.be/tElQEnCefOoI was going to list a few more, but they aren't even on youtube, so will upload tonight and make a playlist.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 10 March 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link
Three of my noms aren't on Spotify, so I figure I'll campaign for those here via YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYeDY6YkzIg
X, "Suck Suck" (1.55)
(note that this is the *other* late 70s punk band named X; this lot are from Australia)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ahdjCoL5Yw
Pulsars, "Owed to a Devil" (1.59)
(the YouTube version is 2:05; I'm going off what I have copied off of my CD copy, which I take to be the "official" time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol86MTKGqUA
Kenickie, "Private Bukowski" (1.42)
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Sunday, 10 March 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link
This is about as primitive as it gets--I was able to upload two songs not anywhere else on the internet onto my Tripod homepage.
Lost (Odin, 1968)Netherlands (Chris Twinning, 1990)
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link
Odin is 1966, not '68.
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2019 17:22 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkZy4yChJkU
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Sunday, 10 March 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link
not a lost favorite in need of campaigning, but this '81 Entry footage of the Replacements is so good and gives one nominated song (Customer) and one I wanted to nominate (Rattlesnake) in one go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9aQ9u8Zy2k
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Sunday, 10 March 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-68QsYHauN1M/T-hrpmw2egI/AAAAAAAAAKo/IC-u41WbtG4/s1600/deliawithpen3.jpg
Delia's busy making her list. Vote early, vote ZIWZIH ZIWZIH OOH OOH OOH.
― emil.y, Sunday, 10 March 2019 18:17 (five years ago) link
I have to campaign for Lizzy Mercier Descloux's inspired no wave turn as Rosa Yemen. The whole EP is the best 9-minute career imaginable.
Also, I fear Rudimentary Peni will be left lurking in the shadows of all the other punk in this poll, but for anyone even remotely interested in scorching manic punk, I urge you to check out any of their three nominated songs.
― alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Sunday, 10 March 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link
Can't see Vashti Bunyan's Diamond Day on the pastebin list> It was nominated by Ogmor.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 10 March 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link
oof, i missed it. very sorry! it would be a very good contender for the "Top 5 songs that aren’t on the nominations list because of a technical formality or because i fucked up or because it wasn’t nominated because this world is going to HELL" sub-poll
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:02 (five years ago) link
Wait, no, that can't not count! It was nominated AND discussed on the thread!
― emil.y, Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:06 (five years ago) link
I AM GOING TO GO TAKE A WALK
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link
I just checked and it was nominated three separate times, possibly while cutting the duplicates you cut all of the noms, but that means there are at least four of us who were definitely gonna vote for it.
― emil.y, Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link
THEN FUCKING VOTE FOR IT
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link
Cool, I will. Just making sure it wasn't thrown out on a technicality.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:17 (five years ago) link
why i'm frustrated:
1) i have put in an enormous amount of my free time, in a very stressful time of my life (new job that fucking BLOWS), doing this. i know that others offered to help and that all of the responsibility for spending a bunch of time of it is on me.2) i posted the nominations list several times in the old thread. other people helped me comb through it. i knew there would be omissions and mistakes anyway, and lord help me i knew there would be complaints. i thought that posting the nominations list ahead of time, several times, would help3) i didn't want to change the nominations list / fix mistakes after starting this thread, because 3a) someone will then complain that they didn't know a song was added and it wasn't fair3b) it will keep happening. 6 hours later, someone will realize that the greatest song of all time, which they clearly nominated, wasn't added. i will submit the pastebin file, then ask a mod to change all the references to the pastebin file in the opening post of this thread, then edit the google form to replace all the references to the pastebin file. then the next day someone will realize that another one of the greatest songs of all time that was clearly nominated isn't on there, and i will do it again. someone will offer to do it for me but i'd have to give them my google password, so nope.3c) after doing all of that, someone will complain about some other shit4) i pre-emptively apologized for all of this in my opening post and tried to come up with a backup plan to appease people: "there were weird issues, mistakes on my end, and i probably accidentally pissed off a bunch of people. if there is a sub-2 minute song that you adore and it’s not on the list, please vote for in the appropriate sub-poll. i am sorry. i really did my best. please try to have fun and not get overly concerned about an online poll."5) i recognize the irony in me constantly asking everyone not to freak out about an online poll of short songs, while myself freaking out about an online poll of short songs. i am like the shaking with rage guy yelling "chill the fuck out!" at a room of frightened people. sorry
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:33 (five years ago) link
6) but if i DON'T add 'diamond day' to the official list of nominations, i can look forward to multiple people complaining about the low placement of the song in the results, because of course not everyone is going to wade through this thread and notice that it was added later. same goes for all of my other mistakes
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link
conclusion: there a reason nobody likes to do this shit
sorry dan, sorry emil.y. you did nothing wrong, and if it wasn't you, it was inevitably going to be someone else catching a mistake. i hate my new job.
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:36 (five years ago) link
Hey Karl, don't beat yourself up about it. With 2000+ nominations it's inevitable that things will go awol in the copying and pasting. FWIW I think you're doing a great job and am really looking forward to the results in a few weeks time.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link
Yes, thank you Karl, great work and please don't sweating. Was just shoveling for the umpeenth time in the last month and this playlist makes great listening. Going to be very hard to narrow to 50 songs.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
*sweat it
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:57 (five years ago) link
Karl, have you put in more hours than the length of the playlist? The QC process alone must have taken tons of time.
― that's not my post, Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:08 (five years ago) link
another minor quibble, but the steely dan song is called "Through With Buzz," not fuzz--not complaining karl, but posting a PSA for the CTRL+Fers who are looking to vote for the song.
― Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:07 (five years ago) link
From all accounts, Donald Fagen was--quick, someone point me to the "Jokes You Don't Want to Go Anywhere Near" thread.
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link
this is such a cool poll, good work, Karl
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:27 (five years ago) link
Here's my campaign to avoid Naked City vote splitting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkrfVZGmLL8
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:29 (five years ago) link
What's the timezone for the deadline?
― Gaseous Clay (Leee), Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:46 (five years ago) link
BTW the Little Richard song is the purest fire.
― Gaseous Clay (Leee), Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:47 (five years ago) link
I'm still going through the Spotify playlist (in the closing stages) - apart from the wondrous Duck, which I'm sure you're all voting for, I've discovered some lovely things in Colonel Poo's punk-o-rama, notably this Oblivians song, my god!
― imago, Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link
I discovered I hate a lot of They Might Be Giants and The 1975
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link
after taking a walk i realized two things:
- i want to apologize, again, especially to emil.y. i tend to get frustrated with myself when i make mistakes, and this is a situation where mistakes are inevitable. and i took it out on you. sorry, emil.y. not cool.
- i do want to avoid the dilemma and hassle of making a bunch more changes to the nominations list over the next few weeks because i want everyone to be voting on the same things. so how about this: i will make ONE more big update to the nominations list (adding in the vashti song, correcting the more minor mistakes that flopsy and others have pointed out (thank you for all of your help), etc. then i'll make a new pastebin list (i can't edit the original one because i don't have a paid account) and edit the google form with the updated link. i'll also ask a kind mod to please update the links in the OP on this thread as well.
it would be wonderful if people could help out by just checking their own nominations and making sure that there isn't any missing that obviously should be there. i really don't want to start a new wave of disputes about songs near 2 minutes. but if i made a vashti-sized fuckup, please let me know during the next 6 hours.
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:44 (five years ago) link
― that's not my post
it's...probably about 3/4 of the playlist time? would have been longer without the help of others in correcting things, that's for sure. there will be a lot of QC on the received ballots, too, unfortunately. i tried to make it clear that i wanted people to copy and paste each line in their ballot from the pastebin list, with no numbers/ranks, but the very first ballot i received was ranked with numbers, lower case, used definite articles inconsistently, sometimes "artist - track" and sometimes "track - artist", etc. so yeah, it's going to be a lot of fixing things like that.
i implore everyone to please, please just copy and paste from the list. when you don't do it, you literally are saying "hey you. you do the work instead."
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:48 (five years ago) link
― Gaseous Clay (Leee)
honestly, just whatever your own timezone is. it's not like i'm going to be immediately working on the ballots at 12:01 am on April 1st, because that would be foolish, but i definitely don't want to wake up on april 1st with a bunch more ballots coming in, either
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:50 (five years ago) link
I've discovered some lovely things in Colonel Poo's punk-o-rama, notably this Oblivians song, my god!
^^^
Karl, should we let you know here or privately?
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Sunday, 10 March 2019 23:19 (five years ago) link
here is ok.
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 23:24 (five years ago) link
I couldn't find:
Regrettes - Juicebox Baby (1.51)
on the pastebin list under R or T (in case I entered it as The Regrettes), though I'm sure I included it in my first wave of nominations.
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Sunday, 10 March 2019 23:28 (five years ago) link
Thanks Karl again for amazing efforts with this.
Here is my promised playlist of otherwise non-steamable nominated songs by The Yummy Fur - 7 songs, about 8 minutes total
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1fmqf9vwPImj7O4D7FRmaUz98CsqCTXF
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 10 March 2019 23:30 (five years ago) link
This song I nominated is on Spotify but due to their typo in the artist's name (two g's in Cambridge) it did not get pulled into the playlist. I also accidentally nominated it as "He's a Mover" (the wrong title on Spotify) instead of "He's About a Mover." ANYWAY, it's an amazingly fast, stomping version of the Sir Douglas Quintet original. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6ejvbPE8_g
― Chris L, Sunday, 10 March 2019 23:33 (five years ago) link
Karl: checked my nominations and only found two minor things, both of which can stand as is. One typo: the Accents song is "Ching a Long" (listed as "China a Long"). And two White Stripes songs are listed as "The White Stripes," another as just "White Stripes."
Something that just occurred to me: I'm really happy I nominated the Mendoza Line. (If you don't know baseball, the Mendoza Line, named after a famously poor hitter from the '70s, is .200.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2019 23:51 (five years ago) link
Won’t the best songs under 30 seconds subpoll overlap somewhat?
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 March 2019 02:39 (five years ago) link
Nominations Change Log:
additions:
Vashti Bunyan - Diamond Day (1:47)The Regrettes - Juicebox Baby (1.51) (wasn’t actually in the nominations thread, at least not that i could see, but since this is the *knock on wood* FINAL edit to the list, went ahead and added it. Spotify and Youtube both include the “The” in front.
Typo/definite article corrections:
Steely Dan - “Through With Buzz"Accents - "Ching a Long"Took “the” off of two White Stripes songs
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any other things that need correcting? as i mentioned above, this will be the final final edit to the nominations list. speak now or forever hold your peace. and in the event that you don't hold your peace, i will try not to be a total asshole this time in responding.
in about 30 minutes i will submit the new list as a pastebin file, post it here, edit all of places in the google form that refer to it, and ask a mod to edit the OP of this thread with the correct links to the updated nominations list.
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 March 2019 03:57 (five years ago) link
ok, here's the updated nominations list:
https://pastebin.com/6d7NQGFc
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 March 2019 04:30 (five years ago) link
KM: I should have checked the original thread to be sure that I did indeed nominate "Juicebox Baby" (and then just let it go if I didn't). In any case, thanks for that, and for all of the work you are putting into this poll.
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Monday, 11 March 2019 04:33 (five years ago) link
no problem!
yeah, probably. but it seemed right to give the shortest songs their moment in the sun, especially since a lot of people thought 1:30+ songs were too long for this poll.
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 March 2019 04:48 (five years ago) link
Camper Van Beethoven's cover of "Wasted" made the noms but not the Black Flag original >:(
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 March 2019 07:33 (five years ago) link
lol this Earlimart song is a remix of a Blur instrumental
― imago, Monday, 11 March 2019 10:54 (five years ago) link
Loved the Family Fodder track just before it though!
― imago, Monday, 11 March 2019 10:56 (five years ago) link
I made a playlist of a certain subset of all the nominations, not stanning for any of them just a bit of fun, best effect if you skip each song after 1-2 seconds:
https://open.spotify.com/user/ledge/playlist/1uMkeSUpwlJHLzx1QkpyN9?si=LJOVMgCxQQOs0273IMaVkA
― what if bod was one of us (ledge), Monday, 11 March 2019 11:11 (five years ago) link
yes indeed
― Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link
sorry to insist but where is the relation to the shortness of the songs?
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:02 (five years ago) link
that part usually comes after the pun
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:18 (five years ago) link
Hey everyone, here’s my rough plan:Rollout on Friday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, about 20-30 per day. Mostly during daytime/working hours (USA) but maybe a few in the early evening as well. I wanted to start today but I didn’t have time to finish up the first batch of images before heading in to work.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 April 2019 13:28 (five years ago) link
You'll probably have a slower start in terms of responses as people will be out for the weekend, but I like the sound of a Wednesday climax (ahem).
― emil.y, Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:04 (five years ago) link
Yeah, there’s also the option of starting on Monday and finishing on Friday? That would give me time to get more of a head start on the images for the rollout, too. I just didn’t want people to be pissed that it was taking forever to get to the results.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link
End of year polls tend to be Monday to Friday and that seems to work for good engagement/excitement, and it's not been all that long yet! I'd probably vote for Mon-Fri but don't have a massively strong preference.
― emil.y, Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:28 (five years ago) link
if you do start tomorrow then i would skip sat-sun and start up again monday. you could start tomorrow and do the first 19 then you have 20 per day next mon-fri. do what you want with the time you have.
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link
agreed with spottie
― Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link
Side polls and a handful of results Friday, main deal starting Monday?
― ILX Loophole Converts Your IRA/401(k) to Physical Gold (WmC), Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link
Sounds like a plan. Taster on Friday before the main course next week.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link
cosign last 2 posts
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link
Sounds good! I should be able to do 20 tomorrow. And also 2 of the side polls.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link
did anyone vote for Morpha Too, because it is, no kidding my favorite Big Star song and among my all time favorite songs
― rip van wanko, Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:25 (five years ago) link
This POLLS up to 11(9 seconds)
― LEOPLOD BLOOMPS (Leee), Thursday, 4 April 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link
i am way too excited for this poll
― Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 April 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link
Really looking forward to this. Most polls I have a pretty good idea what will win, but here I haven’t a clue. Could be a rock ‘n’ roll classic, amphetamine punk or one of a million GBV tracks. Whatever, sure it’ll be super entertaining.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 4 April 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link
I'm going to be super ill if neither of my top 2 make at least top 3.
― ILX Loophole Converts Your IRA/401(k) to Physical Gold (WmC), Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:49 (five years ago) link
Haven't a clue either. With the long songs, there is sort of a loose canon: "Marquee Moon," "Dark Star," Neil's long ones, Dylan's long ones, etc. I don't know if there's really a famous short song outside of "Her Majesty," and no way that'll win.
― clemenza, Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:52 (five years ago) link
Well, I guess there are a handful: "Blitzkrieg Bop," too.
― clemenza, Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:53 (five years ago) link
lol what was the Ramones average song length on their first couple of albums?
― rip van wanko, Friday, 5 April 2019 00:04 (five years ago) link
There are 15 songs on the first three albums under 2:00--"famous" is a relative term, but outside of Ramones fans (in which case they're all famous), I don't know if I'd count any of them as famous. The two songs from those first three albums I would classify as such, "Blitzkrieg Bop" and "Sheena Is Punk Rocker," both are over 2:00 ("Sheena" almost runs 3:00).
To answer your question: about two minutes?
― clemenza, Friday, 5 April 2019 00:10 (five years ago) link
Yah not many canon short songs under 2 mins which will make this rollout all the more weird and good. Hope it’s not just a ton of repeat artists tho.
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Friday, 5 April 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link
not a ton, but there are some repeats - i believe the top 120 is made up of 104 different artists
― Karl Malone, Friday, 5 April 2019 00:50 (five years ago) link
Sweet!
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Friday, 5 April 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link
gonna be a lotta votesplitting with some of these more-frequently-nominated artists I think, for better or worse
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 5 April 2019 02:22 (five years ago) link
alright, please move your butts over here
Top 120 Songs Under 120 Seconds (ILM Poll #95)
― Karl Malone, Friday, 5 April 2019 15:01 (five years ago) link
woop woop
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link
Thanks Karl, great work.
Also: I'm going to whine on here that none of the songs I like is going to make it, then I don't need to make a stink about it on the main thread. /ok, whine over
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link
Yes it's started! My top songs were very idiosyncratic and probably don't have a hope in hell. I was good and limited myself to 3 GBV songs so I can only have limited blame if we get flooded with them
― like him hate us? Sure you are. Its in the cool aid. (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:15 (five years ago) link