♫ Best Songs Under 2 Minutes poll - VOTING and CAMPAIGNING (voting closes March 31st) ♫

second that "jangly mods" link by clemenza ("For Another Man" by the Motions). that was one of the early new-to-me finds of this process. it's basically a beatles help or rubber soul era song

clemenza's first link is unsurprisingly my favourite, also dig knight school

imago what year is the blanche blanche blanche song from? i guess modern because it's about TED talks but it's pleasingly hard to pin down, sonically

Aavikko, 'Rosinante'. My ideal of a perfect <2 minute instrumental. It's near the top of the noms list!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT4FkIMnG2I

2013, amazingly enough! xp

The video, not the music, for that Blanche Blanche Blanche song reminds me a bit of this classic Duvet Brothers scratch vid - also reminds me I forgot to nominate "Fuh Fuh" by Voice of Authority for the poll grrr

wow @ there being 2019 nominations

oh shit, that reminds me! i meant to total up the cumulative length of the nominations:

2019 nominations = 52 hours, 29 minutes
the spotify playlist covers 42 hours, 32 minutes of that

O_O

As they aren't on Spotify I'll have to campaign for The Yummy Fur, one of my 3 favourite bands of all time and for some reason their entire catalogue is currently unavailable to buy or stream, except on youtube.

Here is my first choice, a b-side from 96 called The Career Saver

https://youtu.be/tElQEnCefOo

I was going to list a few more, but they aren't even on youtube, so will upload tonight and make a playlist.

Three of my noms aren't on Spotify, so I figure I'll campaign for those here via YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYeDY6YkzIg

X, "Suck Suck" (1.55)

(note that this is the *other* late 70s punk band named X; this lot are from Australia)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ahdjCoL5Yw

Pulsars, "Owed to a Devil" (1.59)

(the YouTube version is 2:05; I'm going off what I have copied off of my CD copy, which I take to be the "official" time)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol86MTKGqUA

Kenickie, "Private Bukowski" (1.42)

This is about as primitive as it gets--I was able to upload two songs not anywhere else on the internet onto my Tripod homepage.

Lost (Odin, 1968)
Netherlands (Chris Twinning, 1990)

Odin is 1966, not '68.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkZy4yChJkU

not a lost favorite in need of campaigning, but this '81 Entry footage of the Replacements is so good and gives one nominated song (Customer) and one I wanted to nominate (Rattlesnake) in one go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9aQ9u8Zy2k

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-68QsYHauN1M/T-hrpmw2egI/AAAAAAAAAKo/IC-u41WbtG4/s1600/deliawithpen3.jpg

Delia's busy making her list. Vote early, vote ZIWZIH ZIWZIH OOH OOH OOH.

I have to campaign for Lizzy Mercier Descloux's inspired no wave turn as Rosa Yemen. The whole EP is the best 9-minute career imaginable.

Also, I fear Rudimentary Peni will be left lurking in the shadows of all the other punk in this poll, but for anyone even remotely interested in scorching manic punk, I urge you to check out any of their three nominated songs.

Can't see Vashti Bunyan's Diamond Day on the pastebin list> It was nominated by Ogmor.

oof, i missed it. very sorry! it would be a very good contender for the "Top 5 songs that aren’t on the nominations list because of a technical formality or because i fucked up or because it wasn’t nominated because this world is going to HELL" sub-poll

Wait, no, that can't not count! It was nominated AND discussed on the thread!

I AM GOING TO GO TAKE A WALK

I just checked and it was nominated three separate times, possibly while cutting the duplicates you cut all of the noms, but that means there are at least four of us who were definitely gonna vote for it.

THEN FUCKING VOTE FOR IT

Cool, I will. Just making sure it wasn't thrown out on a technicality.

why i'm frustrated:

1) i have put in an enormous amount of my free time, in a very stressful time of my life (new job that fucking BLOWS), doing this. i know that others offered to help and that all of the responsibility for spending a bunch of time of it is on me.
2) i posted the nominations list several times in the old thread. other people helped me comb through it. i knew there would be omissions and mistakes anyway, and lord help me i knew there would be complaints. i thought that posting the nominations list ahead of time, several times, would help
3) i didn't want to change the nominations list / fix mistakes after starting this thread, because
3a) someone will then complain that they didn't know a song was added and it wasn't fair
3b) it will keep happening. 6 hours later, someone will realize that the greatest song of all time, which they clearly nominated, wasn't added. i will submit the pastebin file, then ask a mod to change all the references to the pastebin file in the opening post of this thread, then edit the google form to replace all the references to the pastebin file. then the next day someone will realize that another one of the greatest songs of all time that was clearly nominated isn't on there, and i will do it again. someone will offer to do it for me but i'd have to give them my google password, so nope.
3c) after doing all of that, someone will complain about some other shit
4) i pre-emptively apologized for all of this in my opening post and tried to come up with a backup plan to appease people: "there were weird issues, mistakes on my end, and i probably accidentally pissed off a bunch of people. if there is a sub-2 minute song that you adore and it’s not on the list, please vote for in the appropriate sub-poll. i am sorry. i really did my best. please try to have fun and not get overly concerned about an online poll."
5) i recognize the irony in me constantly asking everyone not to freak out about an online poll of short songs, while myself freaking out about an online poll of short songs. i am like the shaking with rage guy yelling "chill the fuck out!" at a room of frightened people. sorry

6) but if i DON'T add 'diamond day' to the official list of nominations, i can look forward to multiple people complaining about the low placement of the song in the results, because of course not everyone is going to wade through this thread and notice that it was added later. same goes for all of my other mistakes

conclusion: there a reason nobody likes to do this shit

sorry dan, sorry emil.y. you did nothing wrong, and if it wasn't you, it was inevitably going to be someone else catching a mistake. i hate my new job.

Hey Karl, don't beat yourself up about it. With 2000+ nominations it's inevitable that things will go awol in the copying and pasting. FWIW I think you're doing a great job and am really looking forward to the results in a few weeks time.

Yes, thank you Karl, great work and please don't sweating. Was just shoveling for the umpeenth time in the last month and this playlist makes great listening. Going to be very hard to narrow to 50 songs.

*sweat it

Karl, have you put in more hours than the length of the playlist? The QC process alone must have taken tons of time.

another minor quibble, but the steely dan song is called "Through With Buzz," not fuzz--not complaining karl, but posting a PSA for the CTRL+Fers who are looking to vote for the song.

From all accounts, Donald Fagen was--quick, someone point me to the "Jokes You Don't Want to Go Anywhere Near" thread.

this is such a cool poll, good work, Karl

Here's my campaign to avoid Naked City vote splitting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkrfVZGmLL8

What's the timezone for the deadline?

BTW the Little Richard song is the purest fire.

I'm still going through the Spotify playlist (in the closing stages) - apart from the wondrous Duck, which I'm sure you're all voting for, I've discovered some lovely things in Colonel Poo's punk-o-rama, notably this Oblivians song, my god!

I discovered I hate a lot of They Might Be Giants and The 1975

after taking a walk i realized two things:

- i want to apologize, again, especially to emil.y. i tend to get frustrated with myself when i make mistakes, and this is a situation where mistakes are inevitable. and i took it out on you. sorry, emil.y. not cool.

- i do want to avoid the dilemma and hassle of making a bunch more changes to the nominations list over the next few weeks because i want everyone to be voting on the same things. so how about this: i will make ONE more big update to the nominations list (adding in the vashti song, correcting the more minor mistakes that flopsy and others have pointed out (thank you for all of your help), etc. then i'll make a new pastebin list (i can't edit the original one because i don't have a paid account) and edit the google form with the updated link. i'll also ask a kind mod to please update the links in the OP on this thread as well.

it would be wonderful if people could help out by just checking their own nominations and making sure that there isn't any missing that obviously should be there. i really don't want to start a new wave of disputes about songs near 2 minutes. but if i made a vashti-sized fuckup, please let me know during the next 6 hours.

Karl, have you put in more hours than the length of the playlist? The QC process alone must have taken tons of time.

― that's not my post

it's...probably about 3/4 of the playlist time? would have been longer without the help of others in correcting things, that's for sure. there will be a lot of QC on the received ballots, too, unfortunately. i tried to make it clear that i wanted people to copy and paste each line in their ballot from the pastebin list, with no numbers/ranks, but the very first ballot i received was ranked with numbers, lower case, used definite articles inconsistently, sometimes "artist - track" and sometimes "track - artist", etc. so yeah, it's going to be a lot of fixing things like that.

i implore everyone to please, please just copy and paste from the list. when you don't do it, you literally are saying "hey you. you do the work instead."

What's the timezone for the deadline?

― Gaseous Clay (Leee)

honestly, just whatever your own timezone is. it's not like i'm going to be immediately working on the ballots at 12:01 am on April 1st, because that would be foolish, but i definitely don't want to wake up on april 1st with a bunch more ballots coming in, either

I've discovered some lovely things in Colonel Poo's punk-o-rama, notably this Oblivians song, my god!

^^^

Karl, should we let you know here or privately?

here is ok.

I couldn't find:

Regrettes - Juicebox Baby (1.51)

on the pastebin list under R or T (in case I entered it as The Regrettes), though I'm sure I included it in my first wave of nominations.

Thanks Karl again for amazing efforts with this.

Here is my promised playlist of otherwise non-steamable nominated songs by The Yummy Fur - 7 songs, about 8 minutes total

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1fmqf9vwPImj7O4D7FRmaUz98CsqCTXF

This song I nominated is on Spotify but due to their typo in the artist's name (two g's in Cambridge) it did not get pulled into the playlist. I also accidentally nominated it as "He's a Mover" (the wrong title on Spotify) instead of "He's About a Mover." ANYWAY, it's an amazingly fast, stomping version of the Sir Douglas Quintet original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6ejvbPE8_g

Karl: checked my nominations and only found two minor things, both of which can stand as is. One typo: the Accents song is "Ching a Long" (listed as "China a Long"). And two White Stripes songs are listed as "The White Stripes," another as just "White Stripes."

Something that just occurred to me: I'm really happy I nominated the Mendoza Line. (If you don't know baseball, the Mendoza Line, named after a famously poor hitter from the '70s, is .200.)

Won’t the best songs under 30 seconds subpoll overlap somewhat?

YOU POLL BUT WHY

^

^^

Poll thread titles need to play off the word poll

I know I'm going to lose this one, but please, please, no.

YOU POLL BUT WHY

Yes!

Someone explain to this dummy?

idgi either

reference to "You Suffer" iirc

yes indeed

sorry to insist but where is the relation to the shortness of the songs?

that part usually comes after the pun

Hey everyone, here’s my rough plan:

Rollout on Friday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, about 20-30 per day. Mostly during daytime/working hours (USA) but maybe a few in the early evening as well.

I wanted to start today but I didn’t have time to finish up the first batch of images before heading in to work.

You'll probably have a slower start in terms of responses as people will be out for the weekend, but I like the sound of a Wednesday climax (ahem).

Yeah, there’s also the option of starting on Monday and finishing on Friday? That would give me time to get more of a head start on the images for the rollout, too. I just didn’t want people to be pissed that it was taking forever to get to the results.

End of year polls tend to be Monday to Friday and that seems to work for good engagement/excitement, and it's not been all that long yet! I'd probably vote for Mon-Fri but don't have a massively strong preference.

if you do start tomorrow then i would skip sat-sun and start up again monday. you could start tomorrow and do the first 19 then you have 20 per day next mon-fri. do what you want with the time you have.

agreed with spottie

Side polls and a handful of results Friday, main deal starting Monday?

Sounds like a plan. Taster on Friday before the main course next week.

cosign last 2 posts

Sounds good! I should be able to do 20 tomorrow. And also 2 of the side polls.

did anyone vote for Morpha Too, because it is, no kidding my favorite Big Star song and among my all time favorite songs

This POLLS up to 11(9 seconds)

i am way too excited for this poll

Really looking forward to this. Most polls I have a pretty good idea what will win, but here I haven’t a clue. Could be a rock ‘n’ roll classic, amphetamine punk or one of a million GBV tracks. Whatever, sure it’ll be super entertaining.

I'm going to be super ill if neither of my top 2 make at least top 3.

Haven't a clue either. With the long songs, there is sort of a loose canon: "Marquee Moon," "Dark Star," Neil's long ones, Dylan's long ones, etc. I don't know if there's really a famous short song outside of "Her Majesty," and no way that'll win.

Well, I guess there are a handful: "Blitzkrieg Bop," too.

lol what was the Ramones average song length on their first couple of albums?

There are 15 songs on the first three albums under 2:00--"famous" is a relative term, but outside of Ramones fans (in which case they're all famous), I don't know if I'd count any of them as famous. The two songs from those first three albums I would classify as such, "Blitzkrieg Bop" and "Sheena Is Punk Rocker," both are over 2:00 ("Sheena" almost runs 3:00).

To answer your question: about two minutes?

Yah not many canon short songs under 2 mins which will make this rollout all the more weird and good. Hope it’s not just a ton of repeat artists tho.

not a ton, but there are some repeats - i believe the top 120 is made up of 104 different artists

Sweet!

gonna be a lotta votesplitting with some of these more-frequently-nominated artists I think, for better or worse

alright, please move your butts over here

Top 120 Songs Under 120 Seconds (ILM Poll #95)

woop woop

Thanks Karl, great work.

Also: I'm going to whine on here that none of the songs I like is going to make it, then I don't need to make a stink about it on the main thread. /ok, whine over

Yes it's started! My top songs were very idiosyncratic and probably don't have a hope in hell. I was good and limited myself to 3 GBV songs so I can only have limited blame if we get flooded with them