London ILB - FAP?

dipping into this thread to note that while i hope you have a good time the phrase

Thai inspired spicy quinoa burger with chips

makes me v much glad to not be in england

Turns out I'm busy on Thursday also - there's a small chance I might be able to drop in late doors, which I will if I can.

woof and daniel: i need yr addresses by end today or it will have to be by hand when we next meet :)

(which is not a problem for me but everyone else will get theirs first)

Sent you a mail

got it!

i think this will probably a bad idea for me this thursday. i’m under the weather and absolutely wiped at the moment. so maybe we can wait until we’re the full quire?

Agreed, no FAP this Thursday.

The terrible weather we've been having reminds me we should perhaps do a summer FAP?

I can do next three weeks 20th, 27th, 4th. Not the 11th then all good.

I could do the 20th, can't do the 27th, would prefer the 4th and anything after the 11th is basically science fiction as far as I'm concerned.

that's good bcz the 11th is when i download all yr brains onto a hard drive anyway

You're gonna need a smaller hard drive.

Everybody else ok with the 4th?

it's my mum's 84th birthday so it's good not bad

Not a substitute for anyone else's FAP but a Royal Oak note: I am going for a birthday pint there this Friday 21st June. Please join us.

Still on for Thursday?

I'm in!

I am also.

Oh yeah could you bring your copy of "The Unseen"?

I could and will.

i am also in

this time i will arrive with enthusiastic editor's tales of a very different underground: less hawkwind, more soundsystem-rave-dubstep -- the 'nuum!! hola! (i hate that half-word so much lol)

with important crossover figure youth of killing joke allowing us to posit that dave brock invented hip house

I doubt I'll make this, my (older) sister's down in London because she's going to see Rammstein in Milton Keynes (no, seriously) so I'll probably have to keep her entertained.

I would like to attend this FAP but will definitely not make it till 8pm, perhaps later.

This is good see you then.

Tom D - bring your sister along I am sure we can all entertain.

ILB cosplaying RAMMSTEIN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH-ycguHLBU

Might be able to come to this after all, my sister's had to delay her trip for a couple of days because she's suffering from severe migraines at the moment - which hopefully should have cleared up by the weekend because I, for one, wouldn't fancy going to a Rammstein gig with a migraine.

Aiming for six or earlier

Amid almost total disagreement about the LRB last night, we did not mention Andrew O'Hagan who is back in the current issue.

Does anyone agree that he is a bad, very affected writer?

Was it him who did that awful Grenfell piece?

My favourite moment of a very pleasant evening was when we realised that "The Last Samurai" was DEFINITELY named as a pun on "The Last of the Summer Wine".

gyac: yes it was.

I was just reading his article on Lillian Ross, full of pretentious gossip about whom he knew (half of the names are nobodies and / or he doesn't properly explain them).

Despise O'Hagan, he has nothing to offer.

So this was very enjoyable (and thank you Tim for lending me yer book) apart from the pie at Royal Oak. No game anymore and standards have sorta slipped now :-(

Hope to see everyone again in autumn - enjoy the summer!

xyzzzz and I finally agree on something: changes in Royal Oak cuisine.

I have at last read the whole of this issue - even the two terrible poems.

I guess I didn't enjoy it that much after all.

perhaps for somewhat perverse reasons, i quite enjoyed the lillian ross piece -- it's sent me back to brendan gill's "here at the new yorker". i will write reasons and perversity and gill and maybe ohagan up on the LRB thread when i am no longer ill, also ditto wordsworth's fun

(i am no longer ill today in the sense of being i think virus-free at last but i am still very tired and last night was the first thing close to a normal night's sleep since tuesday)

(i ahev not read the poems and think it quite unlikely i ever will, i feel bad about this habit but it is now decades embedded and i'm guessing unshakeable)

Mark yes it is fair to say that though O'Hagan is bad, the review is not unreadable and has a kind of fun element.

I suppose part of the irritation though is the patent obviousness with which O'H attached himself to a certain world that he admired, and then the way that he (often) writes about it - a kind of (non-comic) pastiche of the original; trying to be Didion, or whoever.

If you think of say a Paul Morley encountering a scene, he wouldn't write in a lame pastiche of its manner but would encounter it with his own style.

Unless it was for a book on rock press history in which case he wouldn't write it?

The poems really are bad.

yes i don't disagree with that -- abt the attachment i mean. i haven't written this up yet bcz i've been apply for a job by telling the publication start-up i'm applying to that their underlying philosophy is probably bad (i have no idea what it is) and so they should feel bad

semi-unrelatedly i just sent the LRB a snarky email re LR and AO'H pointing out that what in fact transformed the unpleasant qualities he admires in her into tremendous journalism was the involvement in her work (or threat of involvement hovering behind it) of the new yorker's fact-checking department, at-that-time world-leading

(but expressed a lot more directly, in case lanchester is lurking)

written up here: Book Reviews? LRB vs the failing New York Review of Books vs ... ?

Just wanted to float this idea...FAP on Dec 12th?

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Bad idea I think - surely we'll either be out knocking on doors or getting home for 10pm exit polls?

i’ll be in f’ing australia *again* as i was for the f’ing referendum. actually i might be in the air on the way back tbh. i’ll be getting absolutely shitted on the plane i can tell you that.

Bad idea I think - surely we'll either be out knocking on doors or getting home for 10pm exit polls?

― the pinefox, Sunday, 1 December 2019 bookmarkflaglink

The reason for this is I wanted to keep drinking through the exit polls and pretty much (for me at the least) all my door knocking will be done (might do it on the day but reckon I'll be ready for a drink by 7).

Also we did have an ILB FAP on the referendum back in 2016 lol

Hey, some of us are always in f'ing australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef3beK367tA

Hey, some of us are always in f'ing australia

― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 02:18 bookmarkflaglink

ah man tell me about it. thing is i just can't abide the place. everyone seems really rules obsessed, boorish sports masculinity, racist, vile and totally dysfunctional politics (yes i know), tolerates a load of shitty identity oppression in the name of 'plain speaking/straight talking'. fascism in paradise.

but i love the nature, the sense of interior - as close to a psychological space physically rendered as you can get, gerald murnane, adelaide cricket ground, the friends i have out there, you and your bloody books, james (i often think of this - FAP!), the sense of apac culture, sydney harbour as a geographical space etc.

Basically i just wish western man had never discovered it (i use 'man' advisedly - aus seems a supremely masculine culture).

an almost NZ obsession with fucking coffee. what lack are you making up for u c'ts.

As someone has said, we're a nation of narcs who like to think of ourselves as relaxed anti-authoritarians.

well, i'm flying back now, but i've had a decent enough time swimming in the sea and the taste of ash in my mouth or walking round in a Sydney bonfire. I feel a bit repentant about my intemperate words. As usual here, the people I encounter professionally are impressive and likable, while the more social side is a bit rubbish, a reverse of my experience in the UK.

I'm besotted by Gerald Murnane - bought three of his books on Sunday, during which process, a woman stared, frozen at me, and said 'you've got a spider on your lip'. I also froze, and then she said 'It's gone down the inside of your shirt'. Cue something of a frightened untucking dance in the bookshop. I mean, I suspect the number of harmless spiders in Aus is the same as the UK, but equally there are some right little shits out here as well and fucked if I know the difference.

Fuck tho this country loves its coffees, cars, smashed avocado breakfasts and its dysfunctionally see-sawing relationship with alkyhol.

Am mildly regretting this not happening tonight (and now I have other plans, at least early evening plans). Good luck everyone.

I'll be watching the Celtic v Cluj game then plan on getting blootered later.