Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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i'm reading these fucking books with my kids and there is no way [redacted] NO WAY

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:38 (one year ago) link

ah fuck i’m not up to that bit yet

seedy ron (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:06 (one year ago) link

lol sorry it might just be a fake-out i dunno. i will get a mod to remove in case it's real??

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:14 (one year ago) link

Tracer's reading slash to his kids

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:34 (one year ago) link

I was wondering why my copy was just a sheaf of papers printed out in a dot matrix monotype font

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:36 (one year ago) link

fucking “pooch”, fuck that word to hell, it makes me gag

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 9 March 2019 03:11 (one year ago) link

pooch out

~mine own~ bitcoin (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 March 2019 09:41 (one year ago) link


The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 March 2019 11:15 (one year ago) link

Companion for my recent whining about "deep cuts": "deep dive." "Detailed," "thorough," "exhaustive," these are perfectly descriptive words. I may throw it when I write my last set of report cards, though: "Johnny took a deep dive into pulleys and gears for his science project, and I haven't seen him since."

clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:23 (one year ago) link

"Deeply" has been pretty bad for a while, as in "Deeply disturbing." Agree with all the above, clemenza. "Deep cut" is a little different, since it's been around for a while, whereas "Deep dive" seems invented out of whole cloth all of a sudden. but I had to catch myself from referring to an obscure movie as a "Billy Wilder deep cut" the other day. going on about Stereolab or whoever "deep cuts" isn't noxious to me.

flappy bird, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:12 (one year ago) link

I had to catch myself from referring to an obscure movie as a "Billy Wilder deep cut"

what did you say instead?

mark s, Monday, 11 March 2019 18:30 (one year ago) link

I'm going to just start referring to things as "lesser-discussed works"

mh, Monday, 11 March 2019 18:38 (one year ago) link

Still better than 'neglectorinos'.

pomenitul, Monday, 11 March 2019 18:43 (one year ago) link

haha I think "an obscure Billy Wilder movie"

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 01:33 (one year ago) link

Watched a Wilder I'd never heard of last night; looked it up later & found it had four Oscar noms.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 01:54 (one year ago) link

The Fortune Cookie?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 05:09 (one year ago) link


steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 08:30 (one year ago) link

Judging from its appearance several times recently on ILX, "at this point in time" seems to be making a comeback. It shouldn't. It's just a pompous way of say "now" or "at present". Ditto for substituting "at that point in time" for a simple "then". These abominations gained a foothold in the public psyche during the Watergate hearings, when members of the Nixon administration used them constantly during their testimony.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 20:04 (one year ago) link

My dad always used to blow his top when he heard "at this moment in time".

Alba, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 21:52 (one year ago) link

mine would for 'rate of speed'

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 21:59 (one year ago) link

That’s me and ‘as yet’.

suzy, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 22:17 (one year ago) link

“At this point in time” is the kind of dumb bullshit cops say

Dan I., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 01:47 (one year ago) link

"the individual exited the vehicle..."

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 02:41 (one year ago) link

as of the present point in time

j., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 02:46 (one year ago) link

came across "at a more rapid rate" in print today

mick signals, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 02:51 (one year ago) link

in most cases you don't need "then" or soon" in sentences or, fuck, "going forward." The verb tense indicates when the action takes place.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 02:56 (one year ago) link

fuck a “going forward”

seedy ron (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 02:59 (one year ago) link

Much of this stuff consists of the bad or sloppy habits we pick up from the various influences that always float around us, but even if these constructions are technically forgivable, the basic message should be "Resist!"

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 03:03 (one year ago) link

at work, I usually write every email by writing what comes into my head, spending a second draft revising and usually overcompensating by bloating up the thing, then pausing, re-reading it, and stripping every fucking unnecessary word, phrase or modifier out of the thing , and it usually shrinks by 33%.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 03:24 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

“I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree”

calstars, Friday, 29 March 2019 16:45 (one year ago) link


flappy bird, Friday, 29 March 2019 16:56 (one year ago) link

Biopic doesn't rhyme with myopic, ppl.

It's "BUY oh PICK." Just like if you said "bio" and then "pic" right afterwards.

Not "by YOP ick".


Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:00 (one year ago) link

This has been well-covered

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:02 (one year ago) link

also it's funny to say it wrong

mark s, Friday, 29 March 2019 18:07 (one year ago) link

Increasingly bugged by people increasingly prefacing all requests and demands with "I need you to" or (a million times worse) "I'm gonna need you to"

mick signals, Friday, 29 March 2019 18:16 (one year ago) link

IS there a way to issue commands like this that doesn't rankle tho?

the very worst is obviously "how busy are you right now?"

but there's a whole spectrum of badness.. "if you could (x) that would be graaaaaaate"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:22 (one year ago) link

Good old "Can you clean the bathrooms before you leave today?" or "Please clean the bathrooms before you leave today" do not rankle. "Make sure to" is okay. "It's your day to clean the bathrooms." "The bathrooms need cleaning; do it before you leave."

Directness is a virtue.

mick signals, Friday, 29 March 2019 18:35 (one year ago) link

"If you get a chance, can yo wipe the toilet clean with your tongue? Only if you can. Thanks!!! xoxo"

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:36 (one year ago) link

Directness is a virtue.
otm, viva plain language for most immediate communicative purposes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_language

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:45 (one year ago) link

my mom is a proponent of 'how would you like to _________?'

i, of course, would prefer not to

mookieproof, Friday, 29 March 2019 18:46 (one year ago) link

my partner and her sister especially ask "Are you going to ____?" when they'd like me to do something and I try not to be deliberately dense but like, I don't know the future!

moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:53 (one year ago) link

these requests are couched in politenesses because it beats getting their heads bitten off for asking directly
still, usually the "politeness" is excessive and unneeded, reading to the receiver as passive aggressive
it's a tactic that is not particularly effective in doing what it sets out to do if it lands the speaker in here :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:57 (one year ago) link

If the task is clearly not one of my many recognized responsibilities, my wife usually opens with "would you do me a favor?" to which my standard reply is "it depends on what it is". Occasionally she'll substitute, "can I ask you to do me a favor?", to which my standard reply is "of course you can ask, but I'm not sure if I'll do it". I now accept this little dance as standard operating procedure and it doesn't irk me as much as it used to.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:10 (one year ago) link

mick's bathrooms example suggests they are thinking of a professional situation tho, where yr boss in fact expects automatic compliance w these sorts of requests but chooses instead to phrase them as if you are a pair of yeoman farmers moved only by their own wills, and whether it's to assuage some personal discomfort of their own or to chip in on the maintenance of a superstructure it is annoying.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 29 March 2019 19:14 (one year ago) link

wait no i was conflating mookieproof's mom w mick's bathroom owner. rly what i want to complain about is "do you want to".

difficult listening hour, Friday, 29 March 2019 19:16 (one year ago) link

I was indeed thinking of professional bathrooms, where the boss-peon power dynamic makes any indirectness sound passive-aggressive, as LL said.

In personal relationships, there's more leeway in phraseology. If my spouse said to me, "I'm going to need you to not leave your shoes on the kitchen counter," the formal tone would sound hostile, while "Do those need to be there?" is fine.

Depends I guess on whether you fundamentally like or hate each other.

mick signals, Friday, 29 March 2019 19:27 (one year ago) link

"Agree to disagree" is fine to my ears, it means "mutually accept for the moment that we disagree, rather than continuing to debate and to fail to sway each other from our opposed positions"

mick signals, Friday, 29 March 2019 19:29 (one year ago) link

I consider "agree to disagree" to mean "agree that this is getting us nowhere, so let's stop", except it is shorter and easier to say.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:33 (one year ago) link

I don’t know when I hear this it’s less “we’ve reached an impasse” and more “I am unilaterally ending this rather than concede your point.”

There a great Curb where Larry refuses to agree to disagree.

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:39 (one year ago) link

Usually in an agree to disagree moment, the person who suggests it is trying to assert power over the other person.

suzy, Friday, 29 March 2019 19:42 (one year ago) link

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