this was more a test-the-waters than an actual cast-iron opinion, but I have seen far too many support bands that could really have done with, yknow, a singer
― imago, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
Tim Booth (lead singer of James) regularly cites Patti Smith as his biggest influence, and despite James not really having the same truck as Patti in the critical world I immensely prefer Tim both as a writer and singer
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
I think I feel the same away about almost anybody she is said to have influenced. Much respect but those records, eh
― heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:35 (five years ago) link
think not liking Patti Smith is more a "controversial opinion" than a controversial opinion these days
― L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link
I unabashedly still love her first three albums, and plenty of what came later, which seems more controversial these days.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 16 March 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link
Oh don’t get me wrong I do love Patti Smith
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 16 March 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link
Kraftwerk, Roxy Music and David Bowie are considered to be the holy trinity of influences on synthpop/new romantic etc. but personally I think Pink Floyd (Meddle to Animals) should also be in there.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 29 March 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
Not saying no one was familiar with PF, but if you asked say Daniel Miller or Robert Rental who they were listening to, I think they'd claim their influences were Wendy Carlos, Tomita, Jean Michel Jarre, Vangelis, Can and Faust on the instrumental side.
― with Chew Guard™ technology (Sanpaku), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
Daniel Miller was a fan of early rock'n'roll (hence the Silicon Teens), The Beach Boys and The Kinks. Also Can, and yes, Pink Floyd.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link
John Foxx? Pink Floyd fan - even covered 'Have a Cigar' ... Andy McCluskey also a Pink Floyd fan, confessing as much on OMD's forum a few years back. Alan Wilder of Depeche Mode chose Meddle as one of his favourite LP's in a Quietus article. Phil Oakey said Floyd were his "model of what a band should be" in a 2003 interview...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link
David Gilmour is on Duran Duran side project Arcadia's LP, and I'm fairly certain he didn't end up on there by accident.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link
no, he ended up there because money
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link
Vince Clarke chose The Dark Side of the Moon as one of his favourite LP's for the Quietus, too.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link
I’m certain that the “Live at the Milk Bar toilets” aspect of “There’s More To Life Than This” is faked. It aurally makes no sense, there is clearly doubles vocals on the choruses, and you can hear identical crowd sounds repeating as if the background noise were on loop
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 28 April 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
*doubled, *was
I don't know that that is controversial.
but my entire experience is listening to it and reading the credits then listening closely 26 years ago, perhaps Bjork stans have been vigorously debating it on messageboards ever since?
(the overall effect is faked, but iirc I concluded that the lead vocal could well have been recorded in the toilets during the day, or faked in studio based on a fun experience Bjork had one night, and it was a fun tiny mystery easter egg on purpose)
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Sunday, 28 April 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link
it's a subtle commentary that there's more to life than figuring out if this track was recorded live
― mookieproof, Sunday, 28 April 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link
I always assumed she documented some conversations at the Milk Bar and then recorded her song in the studio using them as background
it's a nice track whatever it is
― Dan S, Sunday, 28 April 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
xp lollll
Yeah it is an aural curiosity... the background vocals and guitar sound very much like they were recorded live.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 28 April 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
I'm certain that the "Björk makes good music" aspect of her career is faked
― :∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Sunday, 28 April 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
Back when he was in Depeche Mode, I remember him chosing "Animals" as one of this favourite albums - which was completely beyond the pale then. I don't think the original opinion that Pink Floyd were an influence on synthpop/new romantic musicians is that controversial an opinion given the ages of the people involved. Vince Clarke one of the younger ones though.
― Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link
lil late here but of course the ventures rule!!!! hella goood band
― ian, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
my controversial opinion might be that brian eno's rock records aren't very good.
― ian, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
pink floyd were better without syd.
― ian, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link
most jazz guitar is terrible.
― ian, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
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agree with both of these controps
syd era is weak as hell
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link
Not liking Syd era Floyd is hardly controversial, I think most Pink Floyd fans think that.
― Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link
controversial among my dorky friends then
― ian, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:39 (four years ago) link
i wish i had more controversial opinions :(
― ian, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link
I imagine your dorky friends are massively outnumbered by non-dorky Floyd fans.
― Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link
yeah I don’t like Eno’s rock records either, especially when he sings. “In a hollow land” is desert island track for me though. I like/love all Pink Floyd through The Wall.kinda feel the same about jazz guitar, guys like Les Paul or Danny Gatton that throw in stuff from country etc. is cool... probably doesn’t count, though. fusion guitar absolutely rules.
― brimstead, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link
Wait, what do you mean by jazz guitar if you're excluding all of that, then? Joe Pass/Wes Montgomery/Jim Hall?
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:51 (four years ago) link
Lots of it is good, but those Pass/Hall imitators who play like they're afraid someone will hear them can all get fucked. And Kurt Rosenwinkel too, especially when he uses that pedal that makes his guitar sound like a fucking slide whistle.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 29 April 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link
elyc6 0nset is as good as anything on Confield
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 29 April 2019 05:00 (four years ago) link
well yeah. It's probably the best track on elseq
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 29 April 2019 11:37 (four years ago) link
freedom by wham! is better than freedom! '90 by george michael
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 10 May 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I completely agree! I mean, I like both, but I feel like 'Freedom' is a better song.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 10 May 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link
The Pennine Studios version of 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' is superior to the Strawberry Studios version.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 11 May 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
Thank you. His 'singing', ugh.
― campreverb, Saturday, 11 May 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
Oakenfold's Tranceport is a stellar dance mix, deserving of study.
― but everybody calls me, (lukas), Saturday, 11 May 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link
while I admire the politics, I hate Bikini Kill's music, and will stan for many other riot grrl era bands much more stridently than I ever will for BK. BK's songwriting and vocals are shit, even considering the aesthetic of the era and genre.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 12 May 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
i agree with this
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 May 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
not an opinion i am ever going to offer irl
90% of the music released on kompakt is boring as fuck
― marcos, Friday, 17 May 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
Electroclash was awesome and fun.
― Cousin Slappy, Saturday, 18 May 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
I mean, sure, a singles compilation across Bikini Kill-Le Tigre-Julie Ruin would be ideal.New Radio is a top 10 American punk song for me though.
― campreverb, Saturday, 18 May 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link
Def agree abt electroclash
Electroclash backlash was thinly veiled homophobia, also
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 18 May 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link
― marcos, Friday, 17 May 2019 18:24 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this has been true since around the time they released Total 12 but the noughties was an incredible run, since then though I would put the figure closer to 99%
― boxedjoy, Monday, 20 May 2019 09:14 (four years ago) link
I still very much dig it, still go running through the woods on occasion listening to Thomas Fehlmann Justin Kohncke Jurgen Paape
the catalog is a little samey and era-specific but they're just really rich recordings
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 20 May 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link
xp but yeah referring to that hot run
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 20 May 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link