This 54 second edit of the Doctor Who theme (from the Troughton era) is a bit better than the 39 second edit as it just about squeezes in the middle eight (rubbish fade out though): https://open.spotify.com/track/5edEe378gFi6xxhveG7jAk?si=8LfLuGTQTF-RjnlsXoWeGA
Better still might've been the 1:20 Closing theme from the same era as the opening theme nominated: https://open.spotify.com/track/12eaGTQ57QR7E1XhAevAXo?si=CfpwBrWTTHaaPXEfa2aVkA
― nashwan, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:41 (five years ago) link
i'd hope the majority of campaigning will be for those songs who never found life on that particular streaming platform
let me tell you about some of these US hardcore songs.... oh wait, that's for the next thread
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:57 (five years ago) link
damn i bet we didn't nominate a single tonetta song did we
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link
mea culpa
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link
but do we know which of the 21 Microtronics tracks it is?
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:29 (five years ago) link
Microtronics 05
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link
wait are nominations still open cuz I love tiny music and could name like a dozen on the spot
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
they're closed, let's not get Karl fired here
― rob, Friday, 8 March 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link
I hereby de-nominate my last five nominations (posted after Karl announced a final ten) but ONLY for Stevie D. They're all yours. Of course as a Dandies and Swirlies (I assume) fan you might opt to re-nominate a couple of 'em idk
― imago, Friday, 8 March 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link
Hey guys, this is Karl’s friend, logged into his account. He got fired because of this poll, earlier today, and he asked me to come on here and ask you all to send him money to cover his costs while he looks for a new one. He’s going to be busy out looking for a job for the next few weeks but you can just send the money to me and I will pass it onto him, as I see him just about every night.
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link
SAVE KM
fyi Stevie my offer lasts until 2pm EST and then I renominate and it's all over
― imago, Friday, 8 March 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link
(The) Beach BoysAlain Gorag(eu)rBeastie Boys - Funky Boss x2 /already mentioned(the) Bonzo Dog(the) DicksEddie Cochran - Summertime Blues x2(the) exploitedFats Domino - Walking to New Orleans x2 (please replace one with Thingy - Drugs)Frank Zappa / MothersGeorgia Ann(e) Muldrow
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:24 (five years ago) link
over the weekend I'm thinking I'll make a youtube playlist with the songs left off spotify
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:26 (five years ago) link
Hmm. I guess I'll renominate those tracks. Apologies
― imago, Friday, 8 March 2019 19:32 (five years ago) link
Missing from the Google Doc (I don't know about the playlist):
The Pipettes - It Hurts To See You Dance So Well (1:53)
― Gaseous Clay (Leee), Friday, 8 March 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.)
FUCK.
― emil.y, Friday, 8 March 2019 22:46 (five years ago) link
that said tho i am struggling to find one under 2:00! in my memory they were all short songs, weird
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Friday, 8 March 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link
Not sure if it makes a difference but Discogs has Elvis Costello & the Attractions - No Action at 1:58 on the old Rykodisc reissue CD (and 1:57 on the original LP). This would be in my top 10. https://www.discogs.com/Elvis-Costello-This-Years-Model/release/1493731🕸
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Saturday, 9 March 2019 07:25 (five years ago) link
/Super Furry Animals Do or Die 1:59/2:06 on spotify, allmusic, and discogs*does not, dies*
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Saturday, 9 March 2019 07:30 (five years ago) link
Which version of "Do or Die" were you using, KM? The one from Guerrilla on Spotify is indeed 1:59
― Vinnie, Saturday, 9 March 2019 07:43 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/TXZj8bYs.png
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Saturday, 9 March 2019 07:43 (five years ago) link
one more try...
https://i.imgur.com/TXZj8bY.png
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Saturday, 9 March 2019 07:45 (five years ago) link
apols for large image
*wakes up covered in mud and dirty band-aids*
ok, thanks for all of the nominations list-cleaning! i made all of the little adjustments everyone mentioned above. removing all the doubles opened up several more spots, so i was able to almost all of the last wave of nominations to bring the total to the very satisfying and relevant number of 2019 songs. these were the songs i added:
Bill Wurtz - Alphabet Shuffle - 1:00The Chap - Partly People - 1:56The Dandy Warhols - The Dandy Warhols Love Almost Everyone - 1:54Swirlies - No Identifier - 1:45Teenage Fanclub - Hardcore / Ballad - 1:50Phoenix - School's Rules - 1:32Working for a Nuclear Free City - Euphone - 1:47Depeche Mode - Sometimes - 1:54Avi Buffalo - Two Cherished Understandings - 1:42Midnight Oil - Bakerman - 0:56Elvis Costello & the Attractions - No Action - 1:58 (this is above 2:00 on all versions on spotify, so i left it off there. but it's 1:58 on discogs)Super Furry Animals - Do or Die - 1:59Georgia Island Sea Singers - Hop Along, Let's Get Her - 1:04Alameda Riddlle - My Little Rooster - 1:49Hobart Smith - Last Chance - 1:30Thingy - Drugs - 1:36The Pipettes - It Hurts To See You Dance So Well - 1:53
The Pipettes one is interesting - on Spotify it's 2:09, and it's the version on We Are the Pipettes. It's legitimately that long. But I looked it up on Youtube and elsewhere, and the album version is indeed shorter, at 1:53. So i'm guessing they put a slightly different/longer version on the U.S. version of the album? at any rate, i've added it to the nominations list, but not the spotify playlist.
Near-final_nominations_draft3_Final_v2_2019_03_09(FINAL)Spotify Playlist
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 9 March 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link
god's work
― imago, Saturday, 9 March 2019 19:52 (five years ago) link
i have the remaining items before i can launch the voting/campaign thread later today:
- finalize points/tiers system (i will try to provide several options, including ranked and unranked ballots, and a few varieties of tiers for people who would rather do it that way- set up voting system- register a gmail account
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 9 March 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link
fionnland's system seems like a good one (see 500 posts ago)
― imago, Saturday, 9 March 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link
still think you should do 119 songs
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Saturday, 9 March 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link
think he said he would!
― imago, Saturday, 9 March 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link
oh cool missed that post nice.
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Saturday, 9 March 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link
yep! planning a 119 song countdown (assuming we have enough votes to make it interesting, but i think we will)
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 9 March 2019 20:54 (five years ago) link
whoops, one more addition (Alan Lomax - All The Pretty Little Horses 1:49)(i realized one of nominees in the list was the beautiful "Artist - Track - Length", which is unfortunately ineligible for this poll. so i squeezed in one more late nom from fionnland)
getting closer, just preparing the google forms and stuff
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 9 March 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link
re: the Pipettes, there are two versions of We Are the Pipettes, the (original) UK version and the US version, and they each have different arrangements.
And it's annoying that the obviously superior UK version isn't on US Spotify, but that would be the one we'd be voting on.
― Gaseous Clay (Leee), Saturday, 9 March 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link
Which (UK) TV show was Alan Parson Project's 'Sirius' used in? It's been bugging me all evening. Maybe it was just continuity music during snooker coverage in the late 80s or something.
― nashwan, Saturday, 9 March 2019 22:27 (five years ago) link
okeydoke, after some messing around i have a proposed points system. there will be up to 50 votes on each ballot.
there will be three voting options:
1-50 rankedRank, Points01 50002 47503 45004 42505 40006 37507 35008 33009 31010 29011 27212 25513 24014 23015 22016 21017 20218 19719 19220 18721 18222 17723 17224 16825 16426 16027 15528 15129 14730 14431 14232 13933 13634 13435 13136 12837 12538 12239 11840 11541 11242 10943 10644 10345 10046 9747 9448 9049 8650 83
this adds up to the pleasing total of 10,000 points. don't worry, when we do the final rollout i will multiply everything by a tiny number so that we can have pleasingly tiny results.
1-50 rankedin an unranked ballot, every song receives 200 points, for a total of 10,000 points. wow, that's pleasing!
mixed/tiers ballotbased off of fionnland's suggestion above, but with slightly altered numbers so that everything adds up to 10,000 at the end. voters can submit a ranked 1-20 ballot, then three tiers from 21-30, 31-40, and 41-50.
01 50002 47503 45004 42505 40006 37507 35008 33009 31010 29011 27212 25513 24014 23015 22016 21017 20218 19719 19220 187
21 - 30: 162 points each31 - 40: 129 points each41 - 50: 98 points each
all of that adds up to 10,000 points as well.
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in addition, there will be three side polls:1) top 5 songs under 30 seconds (can include songs voted for as part of the regular poll too, of course)2) your favorite ever <2 minutes artist/band3) top 5 songs that aren't in the nominations but you believe are actually less than 2 minutes (meant to capture songs excluded from this song on a technicality, because spotify said it was over 2 but actually it's really not, or because it wasn't nominated, etc)
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 02:46 (five years ago) link
Ghostface Killah x2Gil Scott(-)HeronGiles Giles an(d) FrippJay Dee / J DillaLee Ha(ze)lwoodNick Drake - Horn x2P.E.E. - I Hate All Vegetables (missing)(the) Castaways - Liar, Liar x2 (also on spotify twice)Ramones - Cretin Hop (missing)Raymond Scott - Lightworks x2 (also twice on spotify)(the) Red Krayola...still working
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Sunday, 10 March 2019 03:01 (five years ago) link
I've gotten up through Richard Hell on my list of missing Spotify songs
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Sunday, 10 March 2019 03:03 (five years ago) link
thank you very much flopsyducky! especially with the missing/duplicated songs. i tried my best to be careful as i entered them, but i knew there would be some mistakes. very glad to have someone help me catch them.
with the duplicate deletions and additions of missing songs + the last few fionnland nominations i didn't add earlier, we're still at 2019
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 03:45 (five years ago) link
thank you very much flopsyducky!
that was unintentional, lol, sorry
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 03:46 (five years ago) link
No problemo. There’s no guarantee I’ll catch missing songs. I just noticed the last two were on Spotify but not on the list.
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Sunday, 10 March 2019 03:50 (five years ago) link
yeah, that's ok! i really don't think i missed too many, and if i did, well, shit. I tried! I'm finishing up the Google Form now, but I won't post the new thread til tomorrow morning.
in the meantime, here is the full list (subject to slightly change if Flopsy catches any more of my fuckups):
https://pastebin.com/LPFuRJ72
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 03:58 (five years ago) link
I have such a hard time micro-ranking things like this--I find general groupings much easier. Also, the 500-98 spread from #1 to #50 is too steep for me; I won't like my #1 that much more than my #50.
Can I use this instead?
#1-10 - 400 points each (= 4,000)#11-25 - 200 points each (= 3,000)#26-50 - 120 points each (= 3,000)
10,000 points.
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2019 04:36 (five years ago) link
i guess i can amend the google form to add "the clemenza option", as you outlined. just curious, though - you spread from 500 to 98 points is too much for you (a little over 5x the points for #1 vs #50). but the spread from 400 points to 120 points (3.3x the points for #1 vs #50) is acceptable?
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 04:41 (five years ago) link
Not perfect, but closer.
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2019 04:42 (five years ago) link
since i'm making an entirely different option just for you, what would be perfect?
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 04:45 (five years ago) link
The one above is perfect because it's so easy. But you could, if you want, set it up so "The Clemenza Option" is in flashing neon colours.
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2019 04:47 (five years ago) link
(Seriously, though--thanks.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2019 04:48 (five years ago) link
no really, i'm going to add a separate option that you can use (and others will be welcome to use it too), so if you want the spread a little closer just let me know! there's no real "easier" or "harder" here, they all involve adding a new section on a google form
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 04:48 (five years ago) link
This is all terribly exciting. Thanks for your toil, KM.
I like how "Lightworks" appears here in three variations: the original, J-Dilla's appropriation and then MF DOOM rapping over the latter.
A couple of other things: entries for Mekons + The Mekons and Germs + The Germs (Perhaps not terribly important except that I panicked thinking "Lexicon Devil" and "Never Been in a Riot" had been eliminated.)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 10 March 2019 04:51 (five years ago) link
My estimate would be that I like my #1, I don't know, maybe twice as much as my #50? So if I changed the top 10 to 300 points, that'd be 3,000, and the bottom 25 to 150, that'd be 3,750, leaving 3,250 for the middle 15, which works out to...a decimal. So just leave it like it is--the numbers are easy to work with.
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 March 2019 04:53 (five years ago) link